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Can my wife claim Social Security spousal benefits without full 40 quarters? She has 37 credits

I'm trying to figure out my wife's Social Security options as we plan for her retirement next year. I'm already collecting my SS benefits (started at 70) and I'm now 72. My wife is 64 and we've been married for 35 years. She was primarily a stay-at-home mom raising our kids, so her work record is limited. According to her SSA statement, she has 37 quarters of credit (9 1/4 years) but needs 40 quarters (10 years) for her own retirement benefits. Does she HAVE to get those last 3 quarters somehow, or can she just claim spousal benefits based on my earnings record? I'm confused because I've heard conflicting things from friends. Some say she needs the full 40 quarters no matter what, others say she can get spousal benefits regardless. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Good news! Your wife can absolutely claim spousal benefits on your record without having the full 40 quarters needed for her own retirement benefit. The 40 quarters (10 years) requirement only applies if she wants to claim benefits based on her own work record. For spousal benefits, she just needs to be married to you for at least one year, which you've obviously exceeded at 35 years! She can apply for spousal benefits as early as age 62 (though with a reduction), or wait until her Full Retirement Age (probably 66 and 4 months based on her birth year) to get the full 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount. Since you're already collecting, she can apply anytime now.

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Thank you so much! That's a huge relief. So to be clear, she doesn't need to work those extra 3 quarters to get ANY Social Security benefits? She can just apply based on my record?

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Your freinds are WRONG it depends on which benefit!!!! My sister went through something similar. She had only like 8 years of work and they told her she could get spousal but not her own benefit. But be careful because they might try to tell her different things depending on who answers the phone!!!

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This is correct - spousal benefits don't require the 40 quarters of coverage that retirement benefits do. However, it's worth noting that if your wife does work those additional 3 quarters and becomes eligible for her own benefit, SSA will pay the higher of either her own benefit or the spousal benefit (not both).

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The previous responses are correct - your wife can claim spousal benefits without having 40 quarters of her own. However, there's something else to consider: if she works just 3 more quarters and gets those final credits, she might actually qualify for a higher benefit on her own record depending on her earnings history. It might be worth it for her to work just enough to reach 40 quarters if she can find something part-time. Also, when she applies, the SSA will compare what she'd get as a spouse (up to 50% of your PIA) versus what she'd get on her own record, and give her whichever is higher. They don't stack or combine these amounts. Since she's not yet at her Full Retirement Age (FRA), if she applies now, her spousal benefit would be reduced. At 64, she'd get approximately 41.7% of your PIA instead of the full 50%.

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Just to clarify a detail - when you say the SSA will compare benefits and give the higher amount, does that mean they'll automatically check both calculations? Or does she need to specifically apply for both types to make sure she gets the higher amount? My mom had issues when she applied and they didn't automatically check everything she was eligible for.

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@MarcoSteiner One more important thing: when your wife applies, SSA will automatically calculate both her own retirement benefit (if she has enough quarters) AND her spousal benefit, then pay the higher of the two. This is called "deemed filing" - you're deemed to file for all benefits you're eligible for at the same time. She doesn't need to file separate applications. However, it's still a good idea to specifically mention during the application process that she's interested in spousal benefits, just to make sure nothing gets overlooked.

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my wife only had 7 years of work and got spousal benefits no problem. but you should know they take forever to process applications these days!!! we waited almost 5 months last year!!!

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Wow, 5 months is a long time! Do you remember how long it took just to get through to someone on the phone to start the application process? I've heard the wait times are terrible.

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To summarize the information shared so far and add a few details: 1. Your wife CAN receive spousal benefits without having 40 quarters of coverage on her own record. This is a common misconception. 2. If she applies now at age 64, her spousal benefit will be permanently reduced because she's before her Full Retirement Age (FRA). The reduction is approximately 8.33% per year before FRA. 3. If she waits until her FRA (likely 66 and 4 months based on her birth year), she'll receive 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). 4. If she does work those extra 3 quarters and qualifies for her own benefit, SSA will pay the higher amount between her own benefit and the spousal benefit (not both). 5. There is no advantage to her filing for her own reduced benefit now and then switching to spousal benefits later - the deemed filing rules prevent this strategy for anyone born after January 1, 1954. Lastly, when she does apply, make sure she has her marriage certificate, both your Social Security numbers, and bank account information for direct deposit.

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Wait what?? You mean she can't do that thing where you get your own benefit first and then switch to the spouse benefit later?? My neighbor said thats what she did!!!

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@RetireeQuestions The rules changed in 2015 with the Bipartisan Budget Act. Before that, people born before January 2, 1954 could file a "restricted application" for just spousal benefits at FRA while letting their own benefit grow, then switch later. That strategy is no longer available for people born after January 1, 1954 (which includes your wife at age 64). Your neighbor likely fell under the old rules.

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Thank you all for the helpful information! This clears up so much confusion. I think my wife will apply for spousal benefits soon, but we'll calculate whether waiting until her FRA makes more financial sense given the permanent reduction. Good to know she doesn't need those extra quarters for spousal benefits, but interesting to consider if working just a bit more to get her own benefit might be worthwhile. I'll definitely use that Claimyr service when we're ready to apply - those wait times were my biggest concern!

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One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your wife does decide to work those additional 3 quarters to qualify for her own benefits, she should be aware of the earnings test if she claims benefits before her FRA. Since she's 64, if she starts collecting spousal benefits now AND works, any earnings over $23,400 (2024 limit) will reduce her benefits by $1 for every $2 earned above that threshold. This doesn't apply once she reaches FRA. So if she's planning to work anyway to get those final quarters, it might make sense to wait until FRA to start collecting to avoid any earnings test complications.

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That's a really good point about the earnings test! I hadn't thought about that complication. So if she works to get those last 3 quarters and earns say $30,000, she'd lose $3,300 in benefits ($30,000 - $23,400 = $6,600 ÷ 2 = $3,300). That could definitely affect whether it's worth working for those extra quarters versus just taking the spousal benefit and waiting until FRA. Do you know if the earnings test applies to all types of income or just wages from employment?

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