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Can my spouse get Social Security benefits with less than 40 credits while I'm collecting?

My wife and I are trying to figure out our retirement next year. I'm turning 67 in May and plan to start collecting my Social Security retirement benefits. I've worked most of my life and have way more than the 40 credits needed. My wife is 65 but only worked part-time for about 8 years total (mostly when the kids were in high school). She definitely doesn't have the 40 credits needed for her own retirement benefits. Can she still apply for Social Security based on my record even though she doesn't qualify on her own? And if so, would she get half of what I'm getting? We've been married for 43 years and have never been divorced. Thanks for any help understanding this!

yes she can get benefits on your record! my wife is getting spousal benefits right now. she worked as a sahm most of our marriage. think its around 50% of what im getting but SSA will calculate the exact amount

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That's a relief to hear! Did your wife have to wait until her full retirement age to apply or could she have applied earlier? Just trying to figure out the best timing for us.

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Yes, your wife can definitely claim spousal benefits based on your work record, even without having 40 credits of her own. This is a common situation for couples where one spouse worked significantly more than the other. Here's how it works: - The maximum spousal benefit is 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) at your wife's Full Retirement Age (FRA) - If she claims before her FRA, the amount will be permanently reduced - At age 65, she's already close to her FRA (likely 66 and a few months, depending on birth year) - She needs to wait until you've filed for your benefits before she can claim spousal benefits Also important: If your wife did earn some credits, SSA will pay her own retirement benefit first, then supplement it with the spousal benefit to bring her up to the 50% level if applicable.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! So if I understand correctly, since I'm filing at 67 (which is past my FRA), she could file right after I do and get close to the full 50% since she's almost at her FRA. That's very helpful to know!

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SSI and SSDI are TOTALLY different from retirement benefits!!! make sure you apply for the right thing or they'll deny you!!

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Just to clarify - the OP is asking about regular Social Security retirement benefits and spousal benefits, not SSI (Supplemental Security Income) or SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance). These are indeed different programs, but that distinction isn't relevant to the question being asked about retirement and spousal benefits.

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Just went through this with my parents! Mom never worked enough for her own benefits. Dad started his retirement benefits last year, and Mom got spousal benefits. The exact percentage depends on when she files relative to her FRA (Full Retirement Age). At full retirement age, it's 50% of your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). One thing to consider - if she files before reaching her full retirement age, her spousal benefit will be permanently reduced. The reduction is approximately 25/36 of 1% for each month before FRA, up to 36 months, and then 5/12 of 1% beyond that. Also, something many people don't realize - even if you file after your FRA (delayed retirement), her spousal benefit is still based on your PIA, not your increased benefit amount. So your decision to delay past FRA doesn't increase her spousal amount.

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Thanks for sharing your parents' experience! That's really helpful. I didn't know the spousal benefit doesn't increase if I delay past my FRA. I've already decided to file at 67 which is my FRA, so I guess that works out fine for us. How difficult was the application process for your mom?

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My husband and I did this last year. It works but getting through to SSA is IMPOSSIBLE!!! I tried calling for WEEKS and either got busy signals or was on hold for 2+ hours only to get disconnected. Completely frustrating experience!!!

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DONT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE!!! My wife tried to do this and they DENIED her because we were only married 9 years and you need TEN YEARS OF MARRIAGE to qualify!!! They never tell you this until its TOO LATE!!!

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The 10-year marriage requirement only applies to divorced spouses claiming on an ex's record. Since the original poster mentioned they've been married for 43 years and are still married, this restriction doesn't apply to their situation. Currently married spouses can claim spousal benefits regardless of marriage duration (though they must have been married at least 1 year in most cases).

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! Sounds like my wife definitely qualifies for the spousal benefit. Just to confirm what I've learned: 1) She can get up to 50% of my PIA at her full retirement age 2) Since she's 65 now and her FRA is probably 66+, she'd get slightly less if she applies immediately after I do 3) She needs to wait until I've filed before she can apply 4) The 10-year marriage rule doesn't apply to us since we're still married. This has been super helpful as we plan our retirement strategy for next year!

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You've got it exactly right! Just one more tip - when you both apply, make sure to have your marriage certificate handy. They usually want to see that as part of the application process. And applying online is usually faster than trying to do it at the local office.

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Welcome to the community! Based on what everyone has shared, it sounds like you have a solid understanding of how spousal benefits work. One additional thing to keep in mind - if your wife does have some work credits (even if less than 40), Social Security will automatically calculate both her own potential benefit and the spousal benefit, then pay whichever is higher. So she might get a small amount based on her own work record plus a spousal supplement to reach that 50% level. The SSA representative will handle all these calculations for you when you apply. Best of luck with your retirement planning!

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That's a great point about the automatic calculation! I hadn't thought about the fact that she might actually get a combination of her own small benefit plus a spousal supplement. It's reassuring to know that SSA will figure out the best option for her automatically rather than us having to choose between them. Thanks for the warm welcome to the community - this has been such a helpful discussion for planning our next steps!

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Just want to add one more practical tip from my experience helping my parents through this process - when you're ready to apply, consider scheduling an appointment at your local Social Security office rather than trying to do everything online or over the phone. The representatives there can walk you through both applications at the same time and make sure all the paperwork is correct. They'll also be able to give you exact benefit amounts based on your specific earnings records. My mom was pleasantly surprised that her spousal benefit ended up being slightly higher than the estimate we calculated ourselves because of some nuances in how they compute the numbers. The in-person approach took about an hour but saved us a lot of back-and-forth later. Good luck with your retirement!

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That's excellent advice about scheduling an in-person appointment! I've been reading about people having such difficulty getting through on the phone, so having a face-to-face meeting where we can ask questions and get everything sorted out at once sounds like the way to go. It's encouraging to hear that your mom's benefit ended up being higher than expected - gives me hope that we might be pleasantly surprised too. I think we'll definitely go the in-person route when we're ready to apply. Thanks for sharing your family's experience!

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As someone who just went through this process with my own spouse last year, I can confirm everything others have shared here is accurate! Your wife absolutely qualifies for spousal benefits on your record. One thing I'd add that helped us is to gather all your documents early - marriage certificate, both of your Social Security cards, and any W-2s or tax returns from your wife's working years (even part-time work). Having everything organized made the application much smoother. Also, don't stress too much about the exact calculations - the SSA representatives are really good at explaining the numbers and will show you exactly what to expect before you finalize anything. The fact that you're planning this out a year in advance puts you in a great position!

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Thank you for the practical advice about gathering documents early! I really appreciate hearing from someone who just went through this process. It's reassuring to know that the SSA representatives will walk us through the calculations - I was worried we'd need to figure out all the exact numbers ourselves. Having a year to prepare and get organized definitely feels like an advantage. Did you find there were any documents you wished you had brought that you didn't think of initially?

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Great question! The only thing we didn't initially think to bring was my wife's old pay stubs from her part-time jobs - we had W-2s but not the detailed pay records. It wasn't a big deal since SSA has most earnings records in their system anyway, but having those extra documents would have helped verify some of the smaller employers from years ago. Also, if your wife ever changed her name after marriage, make sure to bring documentation of that name change too. Other than that, we were pretty well prepared with what I mentioned. The SSA rep was very patient and helped us understand each step. You're really doing this the right way by starting to gather everything now!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my husband - he's been the primary earner while I stayed home with our kids and only worked sporadically. Reading through all these responses has really clarified the spousal benefits process for me. One thing I wanted to add is that you might also want to check if your wife is eligible for any pension benefits from previous employers, even from part-time work. Sometimes those smaller benefits can affect how Social Security calculates things due to the Windfall Elimination Provision or Government Pension Offset, though this mainly applies to government pensions. It's probably not relevant in your case, but worth double-checking just to be thorough in your planning. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is such a great resource!

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That's a really good point about checking for any pension benefits from previous employers! I hadn't even thought about that possibility. My wife did work for a small local business and a retail chain during her part-time years, but I don't think either offered pensions. Still, it's definitely worth looking into just to make sure we have the complete picture before we apply. It sounds like even small pensions can sometimes complicate the Social Security calculations, so better to know upfront. Thanks for mentioning that - and you're absolutely right that this community has been incredibly helpful! It's so reassuring to hear from people who have actually been through this process.

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Welcome to the community! I'm new here but wanted to share that I'm in a very similar situation - my husband will be eligible for Social Security next year and I've only worked part-time over the years. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational! It's so helpful to see real experiences from people who have actually navigated this process. One thing I learned from a friend who went through this recently is that it's worth creating your my Social Security account online now if you haven't already - it lets you see your earnings history and can help verify that all your part-time work credits are properly recorded. Sometimes employers didn't report earnings correctly years ago, and it's easier to fix those issues before you apply. Thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge here - this thread is going to be such a valuable reference as we plan our own retirement strategy!

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Welcome to the community! That's excellent advice about creating the my Social Security account online - I actually just did that myself after reading your suggestion. You're absolutely right that it's important to verify earnings history early. I found a couple of discrepancies in my wife's record from her part-time jobs in the 1990s where it looks like one employer might not have reported correctly. It's much better to catch these issues now while we have time to gather documentation and get them corrected rather than discovering problems during the application process. Thanks for sharing that tip - it's exactly the kind of practical advice that makes this community so valuable for those of us planning ahead!

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As someone new to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm facing a similar situation with my partner who has limited work history, and seeing all the detailed experiences shared here has really helped me understand the spousal benefits process. One thing I'd add for anyone in a similar position is to also consider the timing of when you both apply - I learned from talking to a financial advisor that there can be some strategic advantages to coordinating the timing, especially if one spouse is younger and might benefit from waiting closer to their full retirement age. But the most important takeaway I'm getting from everyone's experiences is that the spousal benefit system really does work as designed to help couples where one person was the primary earner. It's reassuring to see so many success stories! Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences.

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Welcome to the community! You make a great point about timing strategy - that's something I hadn't fully considered. My wife and I have been so focused on the basic eligibility that we haven't really thought about optimizing the timing beyond just waiting for me to file first. It sounds like it might be worth consulting with a financial advisor as well, especially since my wife won't reach her full retirement age until a few months after I start collecting. The coordination aspect could make a real difference in our overall retirement income. Thanks for bringing up that strategic element - it's another piece of the puzzle I need to research further!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to thank everyone for sharing such detailed and helpful information about spousal Social Security benefits! I'm in a similar situation where my spouse has limited work history, and reading through all these real-world experiences has been incredibly valuable. One thing I'd like to add based on my research is that it's also worth understanding the "deemed filing" rules that apply to spousal benefits. If your wife applies for spousal benefits and has any of her own work credits (even if less than 40), Social Security will automatically consider her to be filing for both her own retirement benefit AND spousal benefits, then pay the higher of the two amounts. This is different from some other Social Security claiming strategies and means she can't choose to delay her own benefit while claiming spousal benefits. It sounds like this won't be an issue for most people in this thread since the spousal benefit will likely be higher anyway, but it's good to understand how the system works. Thanks again to everyone who has shared their experiences - this community is such a great resource for navigating these important retirement decisions!

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Welcome to the community! That's a really important point about the "deemed filing" rules that I hadn't fully understood before. It's helpful to know that the system automatically calculates both options and pays the higher amount - takes some of the guesswork out of the process. As someone just learning about all these rules and regulations, I appreciate how everyone here has been so willing to share their knowledge and real experiences. It's clear that while the spousal benefit system can seem complicated at first, it really does provide good support for couples in situations like ours where one spouse was the primary earner. Reading through all these detailed explanations and success stories has given me much more confidence about navigating this process when the time comes. Thanks for adding that technical detail about deemed filing - it's exactly the kind of insider knowledge that makes this community so valuable!

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this incredibly helpful discussion about spousal Social Security benefits! I'm in a very similar situation - my husband will be eligible to start collecting next year, and I've only worked part-time over the years with nowhere near 40 credits. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so reassuring and educational. One thing I wanted to add from my own research is about the application timing - I learned that while your wife needs to wait until you've filed to apply for spousal benefits, she can actually start the application process a few months before she wants benefits to begin. The SSA allows you to apply up to 4 months in advance, which can help avoid any delays in getting that first payment. This might be especially helpful since you mentioned planning to start in May - she could potentially get her application in early to ensure everything processes smoothly. Thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge and experiences here - this thread has been invaluable for understanding how this all works in practice, not just in theory!

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Welcome to the community! That's such a valuable tip about being able to apply up to 4 months in advance - I had no idea that was possible! Given that timing could be really important for ensuring everything processes smoothly, especially with all the stories people have shared about long wait times and difficulty reaching SSA representatives. It sounds like starting the application process early could help avoid any gaps in payments. I really appreciate you adding that practical detail to this already incredibly helpful discussion. It's amazing how many nuances there are to this process that you only learn from people who have actually been through it or done the deep research. This community has been such an eye-opener for understanding not just the basic eligibility rules, but all the strategic timing considerations and practical tips that can make the whole process go more smoothly. Thanks for sharing that insight!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer, I've been reading through this incredibly thorough discussion and wanted to add one more practical consideration that might be helpful. Since you mentioned your wife is 65 and will likely need to wait until after you file in May, it might be worth checking what her exact Full Retirement Age is based on her birth year. For someone who is 65 now, her FRA could be anywhere from 66 to 66 and 8 months depending on when she was born in 1959 or 1960. This timing could affect whether it makes sense for her to apply right after you do in May or wait a bit longer to avoid the early filing reduction. The SSA website has a calculator that shows exact FRA dates, and even a few months difference could impact her benefit amount. Also, I wanted to echo what others have said about gathering documents early - having everything organized will definitely make the process smoother when you're ready to apply. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences here - this thread has been incredibly educational for those of us planning ahead!

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Welcome to the community! That's an excellent point about checking the exact Full Retirement Age - those few months can really make a difference in the benefit calculation. I hadn't realized how precise the FRA timing could be based on birth year. Since my wife and I are so close in age, this is definitely something we need to look into more carefully. It might actually make sense for her to wait a bit longer after I start collecting in May if it means avoiding the early filing reduction. The SSA calculator sounds like a great tool to get the exact dates. Thanks for bringing up that level of detail - it's exactly the kind of strategic thinking that can help optimize our retirement planning. This community has been amazing for learning not just the basic rules, but all these important timing nuances that could impact our long-term financial security!

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As someone new to this community, I wanted to jump in and say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! My husband and I are in a very similar situation - he's planning to start collecting Social Security next year, and I've only worked part-time over the years with limited credits. Reading through everyone's real experiences and practical advice has been so reassuring. One thing I learned from a recent SSA workshop is that when you're both ready to apply, it can be helpful to bring a list of questions with you to the appointment. Things like "What if my earnings record is missing some years?" or "How will this affect our Medicare timing?" Having those questions written down beforehand helps ensure you don't forget to ask about important details when you're sitting there with all the paperwork. Thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge here - this thread is going to be such a valuable resource as we navigate our own retirement planning process!

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Welcome to the community! That's such a smart tip about bringing a list of questions to the SSA appointment - I can definitely see how it would be easy to get overwhelmed with all the paperwork and forget to ask important things. The Medicare timing question you mentioned is especially good since that's another piece of the retirement puzzle we'll need to coordinate. I hadn't thought about potential gaps in earnings records either, but given all the part-time work over the years, that's definitely something worth asking about. This whole thread has been like a masterclass in spousal Social Security benefits, and tips like yours about practical preparation are so valuable. It's clear that going in organized and with specific questions will make the whole process much smoother. Thanks for adding that insight - I'm definitely going to start making my own list of questions now!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I've been following this amazing discussion and wanted to share something that might be helpful. My parents went through this exact process two years ago, and one thing they learned is to make copies of all your documents before you go to your SSA appointment. The representative they worked with was great, but she needed to keep copies of several documents, and having duplicates on hand saved them from having to make a second trip. Also, if you're planning to apply online initially, make sure you have digital copies or photos of your marriage certificate and other key documents saved on your phone or computer - the online system sometimes asks for uploads. The whole spousal benefits process really does work well once you get through the paperwork, and it sounds like you have a great understanding of how it all fits together. Best of luck with your retirement planning - this thread shows what a supportive community this is for navigating these important decisions!

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Welcome to the community! That's excellent practical advice about making copies of all documents beforehand. I hadn't thought about the possibility of needing to leave copies with the SSA representative, and making a second trip just for paperwork would definitely be frustrating. The tip about having digital copies for online applications is really smart too - it sounds like being prepared for either the online or in-person route gives you more flexibility. This whole discussion has been such an education in not just the eligibility requirements, but all the practical steps that make the process go smoothly. It's so helpful to hear from people whose families have actually been through this recently. Thanks for sharing those preparation tips - I'm definitely going to make both physical and digital copies of everything before we start our application process!

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