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I'm really sorry for your loss, Serene. This is such a difficult situation to navigate while dealing with grief. The SSA rep was correct about the earnings test, but I'd definitely encourage you to get more detailed information about your specific case. One thing that might be worth exploring is whether you could benefit from reducing your work schedule strategically. With your husband receiving $2,800/month, your potential widow's benefit could be quite substantial. If you could reduce your income to, say, $45,000-50,000 by going part-time, you might actually come out ahead financially when you add in the partial widow's benefits. I'd recommend visiting your local SSA office and asking for written calculations showing your potential widow's benefit amount and exactly how the earnings test would apply at different income levels. Sometimes seeing the actual numbers can reveal opportunities that aren't obvious from a basic phone consultation. Also, don't forget to ask about your filing strategy for when you reach your full retirement age. Depending on your own work history, you might be able to claim widow's benefits at your FRA while letting your own retirement benefit grow until age 70 - but that only makes sense if your own benefit would eventually be higher. The system is frustratingly complex, but getting those detailed calculations will help you make the best decision for your situation!

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Aisha, this is really helpful advice! I'm starting to see that there might be more strategic options than I initially realized. The idea of reducing to $45-50k income while getting partial widow's benefits is really intriguing - especially since you're the third person to mention this approach. I think I've been too focused on the "all or nothing" mindset when there might actually be a middle ground that works better financially. Your point about visiting the local office for written calculations is something I definitely need to do. The phone reps seem to give very basic answers, but this situation clearly needs more detailed analysis. I'm also glad you mentioned the filing strategy for FRA - I really need to understand what my own projected benefit would be to make that decision. Thank you for taking the time to explain all of this so clearly!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Serene. This is such a challenging situation that many working widows face, and the SSA system can be incredibly confusing to navigate while you're grieving. The representative was technically correct about the earnings test - at $85k annually, you're well above the 2025 limit of $22,320, which would completely offset your widow's benefits. However, I'd strongly encourage you to get a detailed written analysis of your specific situation before making any major decisions. Given that your husband was receiving $2,800/month, your potential widow's benefit could be substantial (likely close to that amount). It might be worth exploring whether strategically reducing your work hours could actually result in a net financial gain. For example, if you reduced to around $50k by going part-time, you might receive partial widow's benefits that, when combined with your reduced wages, could potentially exceed your current $85k salary. I'd recommend visiting your local SSA office (rather than relying on phone calls) and requesting written calculations showing your exact widow's benefit amount and how the earnings test would apply at different income levels - $70k, $60k, $50k, etc. Sometimes seeing the actual numbers reveals opportunities that aren't obvious from basic phone consultations. Also remember that any benefits withheld due to the earnings test aren't lost forever - they get recalculated and restored when you reach your FRA. And definitely ask about filing strategies for when you turn 66 and 10 months - depending on your own work history, you might be able to claim widow's benefits then while letting your own retirement benefit grow until age 70. The math on these decisions can be surprising, so getting those detailed calculations will help you make the best choice for your situation!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Sofia. Going through this while grieving must be incredibly difficult. I wanted to add one more perspective that might help with your decision. Given your situation - 60 years old, working 32 hours at $24/hour (roughly $40k annually) - you would indeed face benefit reductions due to exceeding the $22,320 earnings limit. However, consider this: even a reduced survivor benefit could provide a financial cushion for unexpected expenses or allow you to reduce your work hours if needed for your health or well-being. Also, remember that you have flexibility here. If you find the reduced benefit amount isn't worth the hassle, you can actually withdraw your application within 12 months and repay any benefits received. This gives you a "trial run" to see if it works for your situation. One practical tip: if possible, try to track your monthly earnings. If you have any months where you earn less than $1,860 (the monthly limit), you'd receive your full survivor benefit for those months regardless of your annual total. The people here have given you excellent advice about applying. Even small amounts can add up over time and provide peace of mind during this difficult transition.

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This is such helpful additional information, Alexis! I hadn't thought about the possibility of withdrawing the application within 12 months if it doesn't work out - that's really reassuring to know there's a safety net. The monthly tracking tip is also great - I do have some lighter weeks at the store, especially after holidays, so those months might actually work in my favor. You and everyone else here have made this seem so much less scary. I was honestly afraid I'd mess something up or make the wrong choice, but knowing I have options and can even change my mind if needed makes all the difference. Thank you for taking the time to share your insights during what I know is already a difficult situation for me.

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Sofia, I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband. What you're going through is incredibly difficult, and I want to make sure you have all the information you need to make the best decision for your situation. You've received excellent advice here about survivor benefits and the earnings test. I'd like to add one more important consideration: the timing of your application. Since you're turning 60 next month, you can apply for survivor benefits as early as the month you turn 60. However, you might want to consider waiting a few months if possible. Here's why: if you apply in a month where you expect lower earnings (maybe due to holiday store closures or reduced hours), you could potentially receive a full benefit payment for that month even if your annual earnings exceed the limit. The earnings test works both annually AND monthly in your first year of eligibility. Also, don't forget that as a surviving spouse, you may be eligible for a one-time death benefit of $255 if you haven't already received it. It's not much, but every bit helps with expenses. The most important thing is that you have time to make this decision thoughtfully. Take care of yourself during this difficult time, and don't hesitate to reach out to SSA or come back here if you have more questions after you apply.

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Elliott, this is really valuable strategic advice about timing the application! I hadn't considered that the monthly earnings test in the first year could actually work in my favor. Since I work retail, you're absolutely right that I'll likely have some slower months, especially after the holidays when hours get cut back. That could be the perfect time to apply and get at least one full benefit payment. I also completely forgot about the one-time death benefit - I don't think I've received that yet, so I'll definitely ask about it when I call. Thank you for thinking through these details that I probably would have missed. It's reassuring to know I don't have to rush into this decision and can time it strategically to potentially get the most benefit.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Giovanni. Having gone through a similar situation myself, I wanted to share something that might help with your decision-making process. One thing that really helped me was requesting a "what-if" calculation from SSA before I actually applied. When you call (or use that Claimyr service someone mentioned), you can ask them to run hypothetical numbers showing exactly what your monthly widow benefit would be after the earnings test reduction at your current income level. In my case, I was surprised to learn that even with the earnings test, I'd still receive about $280/month. That might not sound like much, but over the 7-8 years until my FRA, it added up to real money - plus the recalculation benefit later made it worthwhile. Another consideration: if you have any major expenses coming up (medical bills, home repairs, etc.), having even that reduced monthly benefit can provide a small buffer. And psychologically, there was something meaningful about receiving benefits based on my husband's decades of work contributions, even if it was a reduced amount. The paperwork isn't as overwhelming as it seems, especially if you gather everything ahead of time. The hardest part is just making that first call to get the process started. You've got this!

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Thank you for sharing your experience and the specific dollar amount you received - that really helps put things in perspective! The idea of requesting a "what-if" calculation before applying is brilliant. I've been trying to estimate based on the general rules, but getting actual numbers for my specific situation would make the decision so much clearer. You're absolutely right about the psychological aspect too - there would be something meaningful about receiving benefits from his contributions, even if reduced. It feels like honoring all those years he worked and paid into the system. I think I'm going to take your advice and call to get those hypothetical numbers run. Having concrete information rather than just estimates will give me much more confidence in whatever decision I make.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Giovanni. Reading through all these responses, it's clear you're getting excellent advice from people who've actually been through this difficult situation. One additional resource I'd recommend checking out is the SSA's online "Retirement Estimator" and "Benefits Planner" tools on their website. These can help you get rough estimates of both your widow benefits and your own retirement benefits at different claiming ages, which will be helpful for comparison purposes. Also, since you mentioned your husband was a teacher and may have had WEP issues, make sure to ask specifically about this when you speak with SSA. The Windfall Elimination Provision can significantly impact benefit calculations, and it's something they don't always explain clearly unless you ask directly. From everything shared here, the strategy seems clear: apply at 60, accept that most will be withheld initially due to your income, but establish your claim and preserve your options. Even receiving $200-300/month while working is better than nothing, and the recalculation at FRA will make it much more worthwhile. You're handling a really tough situation with such thoughtfulness and planning. Your husband would be proud of how carefully you're approaching this decision.

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I'm in the same boat here in the UK! My March 3rd payment is missing too. This thread has been incredibly helpful - I was starting to panic thinking there was something wrong with my specific account or that SSA had somehow flagged me for living abroad. It's reassuring to see this is a widespread issue related to the system maintenance, and that payments are starting to come through for people. I'm going to follow the advice here and wait until Friday before contacting the embassy. The international calling situation to SSA really is a nightmare - I've been through that before and it's almost impossible to get through. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences and especially to those with SSA background knowledge for explaining what's actually happening. This community is a lifesaver when dealing with these stressful situations!

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@Jasmine Hancock I m'so glad this thread helped ease your worries! I was in the exact same headspace yesterday - convinced something was wrong with my account specifically. It s'amazing how much better it feels knowing this is affecting expats across multiple countries and continents. The folks here with SSA experience really know their stuff and have saved us all a lot of unnecessary stress and phone calls. Hopefully we ll'all be updating with good news in the next day or two!

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I'm in France and dealing with the exact same issue! My March 3rd payment didn't arrive either, which is really concerning since I've been receiving my disability benefits reliably for the past 2 years. Reading through all these comments has been such a relief - I was starting to worry that there was some new policy affecting overseas recipients or that my account had been flagged somehow. It's incredibly helpful to see that this is a widespread issue affecting expats across Europe and beyond, and that it's connected to the SSA system maintenance from last week. The explanations from @Fatima Al-Maktoum and @Liam McConnell about how the Treasury Department's International Direct Deposit system works really put things in perspective. I'm going to follow the advice here and wait until Friday before taking any action. Hopefully by then my payment will have processed through whatever backlog exists. Will definitely update this thread when mine comes through - this community support has been invaluable during what could have been a very stressful situation!

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@Emma Wilson I m'so glad you found this thread helpful too! It s'really something how many of us across different countries are all experiencing the exact same issue. I m'also waiting on disability benefits in (Italy and) was getting really anxious about whether there might be some new restrictions on overseas payments that I hadn t'heard about. The community here has been amazing at sharing knowledge and keeping everyone calm. Definitely agree about waiting until Friday - seems like the smart approach based on all the expert advice. Fingers crossed we all get good news soon!

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this excellent discussion and wanted to share some insights that might help Oliver and others in similar situations. I'm a financial planner who specializes in Social Security optimization, and I see this scenario frequently. The experiences shared here are spot-on - SSA absolutely can and should include your 2025 earnings when you file in January 2026. The key is being proactive with documentation as everyone has mentioned. One additional point I'd add: if your 2025 earnings will replace a significantly lower year in your top 35, consider calling SSA about 6 months after filing your 2025 tax return if you don't see the automatic recomputation reflected in your payments. Sometimes the system works perfectly, but occasionally manual follow-up is needed. Also, Oliver, since you mentioned this could increase your monthly benefit by $100+, that's substantial over your lifetime - definitely worth ensuring it's captured correctly. The documentation approach everyone has outlined (final paystub, file notation, confirmation numbers) is exactly what I recommend to my clients. Your January 2026 filing plan is perfect - stick with it and don't overthink the timing. The experiences shared here prove the system works when you come prepared!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add my perspective after reading through this incredibly comprehensive discussion. I'm also turning 70 in late 2025 and was feeling anxious about the same earnings calculation questions that Oliver raised. What's been most reassuring is seeing the consistent pattern from successful experiences: SSA can and does include final year earnings in the initial benefit calculation when you provide proper documentation. The key seems to be bringing your final 2025 paystub showing year-to-date totals and specifically asking the representative to note in your file that you've provided current year earnings documentation. I'm particularly grateful for the insights about not delaying filing until after tax season - I had been considering that approach but now understand it would just cost me months of maximum benefits unnecessarily since the automatic recomputation process handles any adjustments retroactively. One thing I'm planning to do based on the advice shared here is to also bring a simple one-page summary showing my expected 2025 total earnings and explaining why I'm providing this documentation. After reading about some of the challenges people faced when things weren't properly documented initially, I'd rather be over-prepared than deal with months of follow-up calls. Thank you to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - this thread has been more valuable than any official SSA resource I've found!

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