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As a newcomer to this community, I'm blown away by the depth and quality of information shared in this thread! I'm 63 and facing very similar decisions to the original poster. My husband is 66 and already collecting his benefits, which are about $600 more per month than what I'm projected to receive. What I found most helpful from reading through all the responses is the clear explanation that retirement benefits and survivor benefits are completely separate systems. I had been operating under the mistaken belief that claiming my own benefits early would somehow limit my survivor benefit options forever. Learning that I can claim at my reduced rate now but still have the flexibility to switch to the full survivor benefit at my FRA (if needed) completely changes my planning strategy. I'm also incredibly grateful for all the practical advice shared here - from setting up online SSA accounts in advance, to keeping detailed records of phone calls, to services like Claimyr that can help you actually reach a human being. The real-world experiences from people who have actually gone through the survivor benefit process are invaluable and something you just can't get from reading government websites. This thread has motivated me to stop procrastinating and start taking action - I'm going to set up our online accounts this week and create an organized file with all our important documents. Thank you to this amazing community for sharing your knowledge so generously!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and your situation sounds very similar to mine - I'm 64 and my husband is 67 with benefits about $700 higher than what I'll get. This entire thread has been such an education! Like you, I was completely confused about how survivor benefits work and had assumed that any early claiming would lock me into permanently reduced amounts across the board. The biggest revelation for me was learning that you can essentially have your cake and eat it too - claim your own reduced benefit early for the immediate income, but still preserve your right to the full survivor benefit later if needed. It makes the decision so much less stressful knowing you're not closing doors forever by claiming at 65 instead of waiting until FRA. I'm definitely following your lead on getting organized - going to set up our online accounts and create a comprehensive document file this weekend. The practical tips everyone shared here are just as valuable as understanding the rules themselves. It's such a relief to find a community where people share real experiences instead of just theoretical information!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for such an incredibly informative discussion! I'm 60 and my husband is 63, so we're still in the planning stages, but this thread has answered so many questions I didn't even know I had. The most eye-opening revelation for me was learning that survivor benefits are completely separate from your own retirement benefits. I had always assumed that any decision about early claiming would lock you into those consequences forever - knowing that you can claim your own benefits early but still have full flexibility with survivor benefits later is a huge relief and completely changes how I'm thinking about our strategy. I'm also taking notes on all the practical advice shared here - especially about setting up online SSA accounts now, organizing important documents in advance, and keeping detailed records of any interactions with SSA. The real-world experiences from people who have actually navigated the survivor benefit process are invaluable and give me so much more confidence about what to expect. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have successfully used the Claimyr service that was mentioned, did you find it was worth the cost? I'm thinking it might be smart to use it to get definitive answers about our specific situation before we need to make any decisions. Has anyone compared the information you get through that service versus what you can find through the standard SSA channels? This community is amazing - thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences so generously!

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Confused about DAC and CIC benefits with family maximum - will SSI top-up work for my disabled son?

My wife just got approved for SSDI last month. We have a son with disabilities (26 years old) who currently receives SSI benefits. I understand I need to apply for Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits for him based on my wife's work record. Since I'm his primary caregiver, I believe I might qualify for Childhood-in-Care (CIC) benefits too.I'm really confused about the family maximum limit though. If the total family benefits are capped at 150% of my wife's SSDI amount, would my son and I have to split the remaining 50%? His current SSI payment is about $943/month, and I'm worried that if we split that 50%, his DAC benefit would be less than what he gets now from SSI.Would he still get supplemental SSI to make up the difference since SSI is the "payer of last resort"? Or would the split between DAC and CIC be uneven with him getting priority? If applying for CIC benefits for myself would actually reduce his total benefits by forcing him to stay primarily on SSI, maybe I shouldn't even apply? Also, timing question - do I need to wait until his DAC application is approved before I can apply for CIC benefits, or can I do both applications simultaneously?One more concern - my wife and I are both about 7 years away from our Full Retirement Age. If I apply for CIC benefits now, will this somehow lock me into a reduced spousal benefit later? I haven't had much income over the years and will likely need the spousal benefit top-up when I reach retirement age. I don't want to mess that up.This whole system is making my head spin! Any advice would be so appreciated.

Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to try to set up an appointment with SSA to discuss our specific situation. The Medicaid considerations are especially important since my son uses several Medicaid-funded services. It sounds like I should:1. Apply for both DAC and CIC benefits at the same time2. Check with our state Medicaid office about continued eligibility under DAC3. Understand that my son's benefits get priority before mine4. Know that applying for CIC now won't affect my future retirement/spousal benefitsI really appreciate all of you taking time to help me understand this complicated system!

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You've got a great plan laid out! Just wanted to add one more thing that might help - when you go to your SSA appointment, bring documentation showing you're your son's caregiver (medical records, care plans, etc.) and ask them to run the exact calculations for your family's situation. They can tell you the precise family maximum amount and how the benefits would be distributed between DAC and CIC. Also, definitely contact your state Medicaid office BEFORE making any changes. Some states have "Medicaid buy-in" programs for disabled individuals who lose SSI eligibility due to other income, but the rules vary widely by state. You want to make sure there won't be any gaps in his healthcare coverage during the transition. Good luck with everything! This system is incredibly complex, but it sounds like you're asking all the right questions.

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This is such valuable advice! I'm new to navigating the SSA system and honestly feeling overwhelmed by all the moving parts. The suggestion about bringing documentation to prove caregiving status is really smart - I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm curious about the Medicaid buy-in programs you mentioned. Are these typically income-based, or do they have other eligibility requirements? My family is in a similar situation where we're worried about healthcare coverage gaps during benefit transitions. Also, @d9bbb2bc99cf, your methodical approach to tackling this step-by-step is really inspiring. It's clear you're being a great advocate for your son through this complicated process!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm in a similar situation where I'm considering starting benefits mid-year while continuing to work, and reading through all these detailed explanations has really clarified the earnings limit rules for me. The information about the monthly earnings test option for the first year is particularly valuable - I had no idea that was even available. It sounds like it could make a huge difference for people like us who start benefits partway through the year with existing earnings. I'm also grateful for the practical tips about the SSA-777 form for voluntary withholding and keeping detailed records. These are the kinds of real-world insights you don't always find in the official SSA publications. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge. This community is such a great resource for navigating these complex Social Security rules!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here and have been amazed at how knowledgeable and helpful everyone is. This thread really opened my eyes to how complex the Social Security earnings rules can be - I had no idea about things like the monthly earnings test option or the voluntary withholding form either. It's so valuable to have real people sharing their actual experiences alongside the technical explanations. Good luck with your decision about when to start benefits - sounds like you've got some great information to work with now!

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As someone who just recently navigated this exact situation, I wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand how they calculate "earnings" versus "income." For W-2 employees like most part-time workers, they count your gross wages (before taxes and deductions). But if you have any self-employment income, they count your NET self-employment earnings after business expenses. This distinction can be really important for your calculations. Also, timing matters for when earnings are "counted." Generally, SSA counts earnings when you perform the work, not when you're paid. So if you work in December 2025 but get paid in January 2026, those earnings count toward your 2025 limit. One last tip: if you're close to the limit later in the year, you might consider asking your employer to defer some income to the next year if possible (like a year-end bonus). Just make sure any arrangement complies with tax laws and your employer's policies. The monthly earnings test really can be a lifesaver in situations like yours where you've already earned money before starting benefits!

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This is such valuable additional information! The distinction between gross wages for W-2 employees versus net earnings for self-employment is really important - I wouldn't have thought about that difference. And the timing aspect about when earnings are "counted" (when work is performed vs. when paid) is crucial for year-end planning. Your suggestion about potentially deferring income like bonuses is brilliant too - that could really help someone who finds themselves getting close to the limit in December. Thank you for adding these practical details that could make a real difference in how people plan their earnings throughout the year!

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I just went through this process last year and want to emphasize something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - when you call SSA, make sure to ask them to send you a written confirmation of your ARF request. I learned this the hard way when my first request seemed to disappear into the system after 3 months of waiting. The second time I called, I specifically asked for written documentation that my ARF recalculation was in process, including a case number and expected timeframe. This made a huge difference when I had to follow up later. I received my written confirmation within 2 weeks, and my benefit adjustment came through about 6 weeks after that. Also, for those wondering about timing - I had 16 months of withheld benefits over 4 years, and my monthly payment increased by $165. The retroactive payment back to my FRA date was substantial too. Don't let SSA's current staffing issues discourage you from pursuing this - it's money you're legitimately entitled to receive.

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This is excellent advice about getting written confirmation! I hadn't thought about that, but it makes perfect sense given all the stories about requests getting lost in the system. Having a case number and written documentation would definitely give me peace of mind and something concrete to reference if I need to follow up. Thank you for sharing that tip - I'll make sure to ask for written confirmation when I call. Your experience with the $165 increase and retroactive payment gives me hope that this will be worth the effort!

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I'm currently in a very similar situation - reached my FRA in January but haven't seen any benefit adjustment yet. After reading through everyone's experiences here, I realize I need to be proactive about requesting the ARF recalculation rather than waiting for SSA to do it automatically. I had about 14 months of reduced benefits over 3 years due to part-time work earnings, so I'm hoping for a meaningful increase. Based on all the advice shared here, I'm going to: 1. Gather all my documentation showing which months had reduced/withheld benefits 2. Call SSA and specifically ask for "Adjustment of Reduction Factor" recalculation 3. Request written confirmation with a case number 4. Be prepared to ask for a technical specialist if needed It's really helpful to see the actual dollar amounts people have received - the $165-$195 monthly increases mentioned here would make a significant difference for me. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and timelines. This thread has been more informative than anything I could find on the official SSA website! For those still waiting like me, it sounds like persistence and using the right terminology are key. I'll report back once I get through the process.

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This is such a comprehensive plan! I'm in almost the exact same situation - reached FRA recently but haven't seen any changes yet. Your step-by-step approach really helps me feel more prepared to tackle this. I especially appreciate you mentioning the specific dollar amounts others have shared - it gives me a better sense of what to expect. I think I'll follow your lead and gather all my documentation first before making the call. Please do report back on how it goes - I'd love to hear about your experience with the process!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Sean. Having gone through this when my father passed away, I want to add one important point that might help your mom: If she's receiving any benefits on her own Social Security record currently, she should ask the SSA representative to do what's called a "benefit comparison" to see whether her survivor benefits or her own retirement benefits would be higher. Sometimes people can switch between the two at different ages to maximize their lifetime benefits. For example, she might take her own reduced retirement benefit now and then switch to full survivor benefits at her full retirement age, or vice versa. This strategy can sometimes result in thousands of dollars more over her lifetime. Also, don't let the small amount of the $255 death benefit discourage you - as everyone has mentioned, the ongoing monthly survivor benefits are the real financial help. The SSA representatives are trained to help families through these decisions during difficult times, so don't hesitate to ask them to explain all the options clearly. You're doing a great job looking out for your mom during this challenging time.

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Thank you so much for bringing up the benefit comparison strategy, Aisha. This is such important information that I don't think we would have known to ask about otherwise. The idea that my mom could potentially switch between her own benefits and survivor benefits at different ages to maximize her lifetime payments is fascinating - and you're right that it could mean thousands of dollars difference over time. I'll definitely make sure she asks the SSA representative to do a full benefit comparison and explain all the timing strategies available to her. It's reassuring to know that the representatives are specifically trained to help families navigate these complex decisions during such difficult times. Everyone in this community has provided such valuable insights that go way beyond what I could have found just reading the SSA website. I feel so much more prepared to help my mom through this process now. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and expertise - it truly means everything to have this level of support and guidance during such a challenging time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Sean. Losing a parent is never easy, and I can only imagine how overwhelming it must feel to navigate these benefits while you're grieving. I wanted to share my experience from when my mother passed away two years ago - we went through this exact same process with my father. Everyone here has given you excellent advice about the $255 death benefit and the much more significant ongoing survivor benefits. One small thing I'd add that helped us: when your mom calls SSA, suggest she have a pen and paper ready to take notes during the call. The representatives often give you confirmation numbers, next steps, and timelines that are easy to forget when you're processing so much information at once. Also, don't be surprised if the process takes longer than expected - there can be delays in processing paperwork, especially if any documents need to be mailed in. We found it helpful to follow up about 3-4 weeks after the initial application just to make sure everything was moving along smoothly. Your mom is fortunate to have such a caring and proactive son helping her through this difficult time. The fact that you're here researching and asking questions shows what a wonderful support system she has. Take care of yourself too - supporting a grieving parent while dealing with your own grief is emotionally exhausting. This community has your back if you need any more guidance along the way.

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Thank you so much for this thoughtful advice, Dmitry. The reminder about having pen and paper ready during the call is such a simple but important tip - you're absolutely right that it's easy to forget confirmation numbers and important details when you're processing so much information during an emotional time. I'll definitely make sure my mom is prepared to take detailed notes. It's also really helpful to know that the process might take longer than expected and that following up in 3-4 weeks is a good practice. We'll set a reminder to check on the status rather than just assuming everything is moving along. Your point about this being emotionally exhausting for both of us really resonates - I've been so focused on helping my mom that I hadn't fully acknowledged how draining this whole process has been for me too. Thank you for the reminder to take care of myself as well. This entire thread has been incredibly valuable and supportive during such a difficult time. It means so much to have guidance from people who have walked this path before us.

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