Can both ex-wives receive the same deceased ex-husband's full Social Security benefits?
My neighbor just told me something about Social Security survivor benefits that sounds too good to be true. Her brother died last month at age 68 (past his full retirement age). He had been married twice before - first marriage lasted 22 years, second marriage lasted 21 years. He never remarried after that. According to my neighbor, BOTH ex-wives are now receiving his full Social Security retirement amount as survivor benefits. Is that even possible? I thought only one spouse could claim on someone's record. Wouldn't the benefits be split between them? Or is this one of those rare Social Security loopholes I keep hearing about where multiple people can collect full benefits on one person's record?
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Carmen Ortiz
Yes, this is actually possible! Both ex-spouses can receive survivor benefits based on the same worker's record if each marriage lasted at least 10 years. This isn't a loophole - it's how the survivor benefit system is designed. Each eligible ex-spouse can receive up to 100% of the deceased worker's benefit if they claim at their own full retirement age. There's no reduction or splitting of benefits between multiple eligible ex-spouses. The SSA pays each qualified person their full entitled amount.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Wow, that's incredible! So the Social Security system is essentially paying out twice on one person's contributions? Does this apply to current spouses too? Like if he had been married at the time of death, would all THREE women get benefits?
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MidnightRider
Wait i'm confused about this... are u sure both exes get 100%??? I thought survivor benefits were like only for current spouses or maybe 1 ex-spouse. How can the system afford to pay everyone the full amount? Doesn't seem right.
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Carmen Ortiz
•Yes, I'm certain. Each qualified ex-spouse can receive survivor benefits based on the deceased's record, provided each marriage lasted at least 10 years and the ex-spouse hasn't remarried before age 60. There's no limit to how many ex-spouses can collect, as long as they each meet the eligibility requirements. This is specifically how the Social Security survivor benefit system was designed.
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Andre Laurent
My uncle was in this EXACT situation!!! He passed away 2 years ago and both his exes get his SS checks now. My mom (his sister) was shocked when she found out. The whole family thought it was some kind of mistake but nope - totally legit according to SS rules. Neither ex even knows about the other one getting benefits lol
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•That's interesting! Was your uncle also past his Full Retirement Age when he passed? I'm curious if the amount each ex-wife receives is reduced because there are two of them claiming, or if they each get the full amount he would have received.
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Andre Laurent
•Yep he was 70 when he died. And from what my mom found out they BOTH get his full benefit amount! No reduction at all. Crazy right??
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Jamal Washington
This is correct information. I'm a retired financial planner who specialized in Social Security strategies. Each eligible ex-spouse can receive full survivor benefits without affecting the other. The 10-year marriage duration requirement is key. Also, if either ex-spouse remarried before age 60, they would lose eligibility (unless that marriage also ended). If they remarried after 60, they maintain eligibility for the ex-spouse survivor benefit. If the deceased had been married at death, his current widow AND both ex-wives could potentially ALL receive full survivor benefits. This is one area where Social Security doesn't reduce benefits proportionally among multiple claimants.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thank you for confirming! This seems so generous compared to other aspects of Social Security. Is there anything special the ex-wives need to do to apply for these benefits? Does Social Security automatically notify them or do they have to know to apply?
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Mei Wong
SSA doesn't automatically notify eligible ex-spouses about survivor benefits when someone dies. Each ex-spouse needs to apply on their own. They should contact Social Security directly and be prepared with marriage/divorce documents proving the 10+ year marriage duration. The sooner they apply after the death, the better, as benefits are only retroactive for up to 6 months.
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Yuki Tanaka
•That's really helpful information. I wonder how many people miss out on these benefits simply because they don't know they're eligible after an ex-spouse dies. Especially if they've been divorced for many years and don't keep in touch.
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Liam Fitzgerald
I had to contact SSA last month after my ex passed away (we were married 15 years) and it was IMPOSSIBLE to get through on the phone. Spent 4 days trying, waiting on hold for hours each time before getting disconnected. Finally I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in 20 minutes! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - totally worth it instead of wasting days trying to get through. The agent confirmed I was eligible for survivor benefits even though we'd been divorced for 12 years.
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MidnightRider
•does that service actually work? i've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks about my disability application status!!
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Yes, it worked great for me! Got me through to an actual person at SSA after I'd been trying unsuccessfully for days. The agent was able to start my survivor benefits claim right away once I explained my situation.
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PixelWarrior
I worked for SSA for 32 years before retiring. This multiple ex-spouse scenario comes up fairly often. THE KEY THING TO REMEMBER is that all eligible parties receive the FULL benefit amount they're entitled to - no splitting or sharing. But each ex-spouse needs to APPLY for these benefits. We don't have a system that automatically notifies ex-spouses when a former spouse dies. Also important: if the deceased worker had dependent children under 16 or disabled, they may qualify for benefits too, which is separate from any spousal benefits.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thanks for sharing your expertise! One follow-up question: if one ex-spouse was already receiving spousal benefits (the 50% benefit) from the ex-husband while he was alive, does that automatically convert to the higher survivor benefit when he dies? Or is a new application needed?
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PixelWarrior
•Great question. It does NOT automatically convert. The ex-spouse needs to contact SSA to convert from the 50% spousal benefit to the 100% survivor benefit. This requires a new application specifically for survivor benefits, even if they were already receiving spousal benefits. Many people don't realize this and miss out on the higher payment.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
This thread has been so educational! I've been wondering about a similar situation with my parents. My mother was my father's third wife (married 18 years before divorcing). He had two previous marriages of 12+ years each. He's 72 now with health issues, and I've been trying to understand what benefits my mother might be eligible for if something happens to him. Sounds like she would qualify for full survivor benefits despite the divorces and the existence of other ex-wives. The Social Security system is much more complex than most people realize!
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PixelWarrior
•Yes, your mother would likely qualify for survivor benefits based on your father's record if they were married 10+ years, she hasn't remarried before 60, and she's at least 60 years old when applying (or 50 if disabled). The existence of other ex-wives who may also qualify doesn't affect her benefit amount at all. Each eligible ex-spouse can receive the full survivor benefit they're entitled to.
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