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Can both ex-wives collect Social Security survivor benefits when ex-husband dies?

My sister just passed away last month, and her ex-husband died 3 months ago at age 66. She was his first wife (married 15 years before divorcing). He remarried and later divorced his second wife too. Now I'm trying to help my niece figure out if her mom would have qualified for survivor benefits even though they were divorced. She was 61 and really struggling financially.But here's where it gets complicated - we just found out his second ex-wife (who's 60) is already collecting survivor benefits from him! Is that even possible at age 60? I thought you had to be at least 62 for any Social Security benefits.Can both ex-wives collect survivor benefits from the same deceased person? And if you can actually claim at 60, wouldn't the benefit amount be really reduced? My niece is really upset that her mom was living on practically nothing while the "second wife" is getting survivor checks.

Oliver Fischer

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Yes, both ex-wives can potentially collect survivor benefits, and yes, survivor benefits can begin at age 60 (unlike retirement benefits which start at 62). Here are the requirements for divorced spouse survivor benefits:1. The marriage must have lasted at least 10 years2. The surviving ex-spouse must be at least 60 (or 50 if disabled)3. The surviving ex-spouse must not be entitled to a higher benefit on their own record4. Generally, the surviving ex-spouse must be unmarried (unless remarriage occurred after age 60)Taking benefits at 60 instead of Full Retirement Age does mean a significant reduction - roughly 28.5% less. But many people need the money right away, so they take the reduction.Importantly, multiple ex-spouses collecting doesn't reduce anyone's benefit amount. Each eligible survivor gets their full entitled amount regardless of how many other people are collecting.

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Amina Sy

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Thank you so much! My sister would have met those requirements - married over 10 years and not remarried. It breaks my heart that she was struggling when she could have received these benefits, even if reduced. Would it be possible for my niece to file retroactively for her mom, or does that opportunity end when someone passes away?

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Natasha Ivanova

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so sorry about your sister!! i had almost the same situation with my cousin who didnt know she could get survivors benifits from her ex. its crazy how SSA doesnt notify people!! the reduction at 60 is pretty big tho, my aunt took it early and i think she gets like $1200 instead of $1700 or something...but still better than nothing when your struggling!!

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Amina Sy

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Thank you! Yeah, even the reduced amount would have helped her tremendously. I'm still in shock that the Social Security Administration doesn't proactively notify people. They clearly knew the ex-husband died and had my sister's info on file from the marriage. Just seems so unfair.

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NebulaNomad

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To directly answer your questions:- Yes, a divorced spouse can claim survivor benefits as early as age 60- Yes, both ex-wives can collect survivor benefits if both marriages lasted at least 10 years- The reduction for claiming at 60 is significant - about 28.5% less than waiting until Full Retirement Age- Each eligible survivor receives their own benefit amount - one ex-spouse collecting doesn't reduce what the other receivesUnfortunately, if your sister has passed away, it's too late to file for those benefits retroactively. Survivor benefits cannot be paid after the potential recipient has died, even if they were eligible during the months between the ex-spouse's death and their own passing.This is why it's so important for people to learn about all potential benefits. The SSA generally doesn't notify people about benefits they might qualify for - you have to apply.

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Javier Garcia

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This is why the whole SSA system is BROKEN!! How is anyone supposed to know all these complicated rules?? They should NOTIFY eligible people when someone dies who they were married to for 10+ years. They have all the records!!! Instead they just keep quiet and save $$$$ while people suffer. SHAMEFUL.

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Emma Taylor

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I had the most frustrating experience trying to reach SSA about survivor benefits after my husband passed. Kept calling for days and either got disconnected or was told the wait was 2+ hours. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real person in about 20 minutes. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puUThat agent was actually really helpful and explained all the survivor benefit rules to me, including how the reduction works if you claim early. Might be worth checking out if you need to ask specific questions about your sister's situation.

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Amina Sy

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Thank you for the tip. I'll definitely look into this service. I've been trying to get through to SSA for days now with no luck. Even if it's too late for my sister, I want to make sure I understand all the rules so I can help other family members in the future.

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Malik Robinson

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my condolences to your family. when my brother died last year his ex wife got survivors benefits and she was only 60 so yes thats definitely the starting age for survivors. its different than regular retirement. the SSA website says benefits are reduced by 0.396% for each month before FRA which adds up fast!!

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Isabella Silva

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Actually it's 0.396% for the first 36 months and 0.2% for any additional months before FRA! That's why the total reduction at age 60 is approximately 28.5% rather than 30%. I encountered this distinction when calculating my own survivor benefit last year. The math is needlessly complicated!

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Oliver Fischer

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To address your question about filing retroactively - unfortunately, entitlement to survivor benefits ends when a person dies. There's no provision for estates to claim benefits that would have been payable to someone who was eligible but didn't apply before passing away.This is different from underpayments of benefits already awarded, which can be paid to certain family members. But for benefits never applied for, there's no retroactive path after death.I understand how frustrating and unfair this feels. It might be worth speaking with the local SSA office anyway, just to confirm, but I want to set realistic expectations based on my understanding of the rules.

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Amina Sy

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I appreciate your honesty. It's painful to think about how much this could have helped her, but I understand there's probably nothing that can be done now. I'll definitely contact the SSA to confirm, though it's been nearly impossible to reach anyone by phone. I'm going to try that Claimyr service someone mentioned above.

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Javier Garcia

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My aunt went thru this!!! She was married to her ex for 25 years, he remarried 2x after her, and all THREE were collecting survivors when he died last year!!! First wife, second wife, third wife - all getting benefits because all marriages were over 10 years! SSA doesn't care how many exes there are as long as each marriage was 10+ years. Each ex-wife gets the SAME AMOUNT too based on his record. My aunt was SHOCKED when she found out the third wife who was only with him 11 years got the same as her after 25 years of marriage!!!

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Natasha Ivanova

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wait seriously??? i had no idea it worked that way!! so the benefits dont get split between all the exes?? thats actually better than i thought. i was worried if my ex remarried and stayed married 10+ years it would reduce what i might get someday.

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Isabella Silva

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I want to mention one more important exception to the rules already discussed. If your sister was caring for her ex-husband's child who is under 16 or disabled (and the child gets benefits on his record), she could have received survivor benefits at ANY age without reduction. This is called a

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Amina Sy

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That's really good information, thank you. My sister's children are adults now, but that's helpful to know for others who might be in a similar situation with younger children.

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Oliver Fischer

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One final thought that might be relevant - if your sister was receiving disability benefits (SSDI) or was eligible for them, the rules would be slightly different. Disabled surviving divorced spouses can claim as early as age 50. Also, if she was within 3 months of 62, there's a possibility of retroactive benefits for up to 6 months (though not before age 60 for survivors).These are edge cases, but I mention them because sometimes these details matter in complex situations. The SSA doesn't always volunteer this information, which is why it's so important to speak with someone who knows all the nuances of the system.

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NebulaNomad

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Excellent point about disability. Also worth noting that if the sister was receiving SSI (Supplemental Security Income), survivor benefits would have reduced or eliminated the SSI payment, but likely would have resulted in higher total income. These interactions between different benefit programs can be complex, which is another reason the SSA should be more proactive about informing potential beneficiaries.

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