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Based on the benefit amounts you shared ($3,100 for your own at 70 vs $2,400 for survivor at FRA), I can confirm your advisor's strategy makes sense. Taking survivor benefits now and switching to your own at 70 would maximize your lifetime benefits. Just one more important point: since you haven't received any payments yet, your withdrawal should be processed without requiring any repayment. Make sure you submit both the withdrawal form AND a new application for survivor benefits at the same time to minimize any gap in processing. And don't worry - this type of correction is exactly why the withdrawal provision exists. You haven't made any permanent mistake here.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also consider calling ahead to your local SSA office to schedule an appointment rather than just mailing in the forms. When I helped my sister navigate a similar situation, the in-person appointment made a huge difference - the representative was able to process both the withdrawal and new survivor benefit application on the same day, which eliminated the processing gap entirely. Also, bring documentation of your husband's death certificate and your marriage certificate to the appointment, even though they likely already have this information. Having everything in one place can speed up the process significantly. The fact that you caught this before receiving any payments puts you in the best possible position to make this correction smoothly!
This is excellent advice about scheduling an in-person appointment! I hadn't thought about doing both forms in person on the same day - that would definitely eliminate my worry about having a gap in benefits. Do you know if all SSA offices can handle this type of complex filing, or should I specifically ask for someone experienced with survivor benefit switches when I call to schedule?
Thank you all for the helpful responses. I'm going to try contacting SSA directly to get a definitive answer for our situation. The Claimyr service someone mentioned sounds helpful since I've had trouble getting through on the phone before. I appreciate the clarification about Colorado recognizing common-law marriage, but it sounds like that alone won't help with the grandchildren's eligibility. Neither child has disabilities that would qualify for SSI, so that's unfortunately not an option either. I'll update this thread if I learn anything that might help others in similar situations.
Good luck! One last thought - check if either of the biological parents might have work credits with Social Security. If the mother has enough work credits and qualifies as disabled due to her addiction issues (even if not officially designated as disabled yet), the children might qualify for benefits on HER record. It's worth asking SSA about this possibility too!
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work in family law and see situations like this frequently. While the adoption route seems daunting with teenagers, it's actually not uncommon and can still provide benefits. Colorado has a streamlined process for stepparent adoption when there's been long-term care, and since you have conservatorship already, that demonstrates the legal relationship. Even if your partner adopts them at 14 and 16, they could still qualify for student benefits through age 19 if they're in high school, which could help with college costs. The adoption might also help with other things like medical decisions, inheritance, and family medical leave. It's worth consulting with a family attorney who specializes in these situations - many offer free consultations and can walk you through the process and timeline.
This is really valuable insight, thank you! I hadn't considered the student benefits angle - that could actually make a big difference for college planning. The streamlined stepparent adoption process in Colorado sounds promising too, especially since we already have the conservatorship established. Do you happen to know roughly how long that process typically takes? With the kids being 14 and 16, timing could be important for maximizing any potential benefits. I'll definitely look into family law attorneys who specialize in these situations. Really appreciate you sharing your professional perspective!
What an absolutely amazing outcome! 🎉 This is such a perfect example of why it's so important to not panic when these unexpected payments happen. The fact that your CDR triggered them to discover the self-employment income miscalculation is incredible - and that monthly increase of $428 is going to be life-changing! I'm so glad you took everyone's advice to call rather than just worrying about it. This whole thread has been so educational for those of us navigating SSDI. Thank you for taking the time to update us with the good news - it really gives hope to others who might find themselves in similar situations!
This is absolutely incredible news! 🎉 As someone who's just starting to learn about SSDI processes, this entire thread has been so eye-opening. I had no idea that continuing disability reviews could uncover calculation errors like this, or that self-employment income could be missed in the original calculations. Your experience shows how important it is to not panic when unexpected things happen with SSA - and to actually call them even when it's intimidating. That $23,475 backpay plus the ongoing $428 monthly increase must feel like winning the lottery! Thank you so much for sharing your whole journey and updating us with the resolution. Stories like this give me confidence that if I ever face confusing SSA situations, there might be positive explanations I wouldn't think of on my own.
Wow, what an incredible journey and outcome! 🎉 As someone completely new to understanding SSDI processes, this entire thread has been absolutely fascinating and educational. I had no idea that continuing disability reviews could trigger such thorough file reviews that uncover calculation errors going back years. The fact that they missed your self-employment income from 2016-2019 and then corrected it with such a substantial backpay amount is amazing - and that ongoing monthly increase of $428 is just the cherry on top! Your experience really highlights how important it is not to panic when unexpected things happen with SSA, even though the initial fear is totally understandable. Thank you so much for taking the time to update us with the resolution - stories like this are incredibly valuable for those of us trying to navigate these systems and give real hope that sometimes the bureaucracy actually works in our favor, even if it takes time. Congratulations on this life-changing correction! 🙌
This is such an inspiring outcome! As someone who's completely new to the SSDI world, I'm amazed by how this whole situation unfolded. The fact that a routine continuing disability review could lead to discovering such a significant calculation error spanning multiple years really shows how complex these systems can be. Your initial panic was so relatable - I would have been terrified too seeing that kind of unexpected deposit! But what a relief and blessing that it turned out to be money you were rightfully owed all along. That $428 monthly increase is going to make such a meaningful difference in your day-to-day life. Thank you for being so open about sharing this journey from start to finish - it's incredibly valuable for newcomers like me to see real examples of how these situations can work out positively, even when they seem scary at first. Congratulations on finally getting what you deserved! 🎉
One more important detail - when planning your strategy, remember that your own retirement benefit continues to grow until age 70 (at 8% per year after FRA), but survivor benefits do NOT grow after your FRA. This means there's no advantage to delaying widow benefits past your full retirement age of 67. In your case, taking reduced widow benefits at 60, then switching to your own benefit at 67 (or even 70 for maximum growth) is likely the optimal strategy given the benefit amounts you mentioned. At age 70, your own benefit would be about $3,472/month compared to the $3,200 survivor benefit at FRA.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Michael. Losing a spouse is incredibly difficult, and trying to navigate Social Security on top of grief is overwhelming. You're absolutely right to be confused - the SSA website is not user-friendly at all! But the good news is that you DO qualify for widow benefits regardless of your own benefit amount. The 50% rule only applies to spousal benefits while both spouses are alive, not survivor benefits. Your strategy of taking reduced widow benefits at 60 and switching to your own higher benefit at 67 is actually textbook perfect for your situation. You'll get about $2,288/month in reduced widow benefits ($3,200 x 71.5%) for 7 years, then switch to your own $2,800/month at 67. If you wait until 70 to claim your own benefit, it would grow to about $3,472/month. The key is making sure SSA processes everything correctly when you switch. As others mentioned, get everything in writing and follow up to confirm the change went through. You've got this!
Omar Hassan
One more thing to know - you can check your mySocialSecurity account online to see your payment schedule and any notices. Sometimes they post information there before sending letters in the mail. The website has been much more reliable for me than trying to call.
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Chloe Anderson
•the website is constantly down for me. i try to login and it says error try again later. been like that for months!!
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StardustSeeker
I'm glad you got this sorted out! This is actually a really common source of confusion for Social Security recipients. The weekend/holiday payment schedule isn't well publicized, so many people panic when they see an "early" deposit. For future reference, you can also check the SSA's official payment calendar on their website - it shows all the adjusted payment dates for the year when regular dates fall on weekends or holidays. It might help you plan ahead so you're not caught off guard next time this happens!
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Donna Cline
•That's really helpful advice! I had no idea there was an official payment calendar on their website. I've been getting Social Security for a while now but never thought to look for something like that. It would definitely save me from worrying next time this happens. Do you know if they update it annually or is it something I'd need to check periodically?
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