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I'll be hitting my full retirement age (FRA) of 66 and 8 months on April 15, 2025. I'm already enrolled in Medicare and just submitted my Social Security retirement application online yesterday. I requested my first payment to start in May 2025. Does anyone know approximately what date in May I should expect to see that first deposit? Is it on a specific day of the month based on birth date or something else? Also, are there any important dos and don'ts I should be aware of now that I've applied? Any unexpected issues I should prepare for? This whole process makes me nervous even though I waited until FRA. Thanks in advance for any insights!
I lost my husband unexpectedly last month, just the day before I reached my full retirement age (66 and 10 months). He started collecting Social Security at 62 about 23 years ago and was receiving around $1,850/month when he passed. I haven't filed for any benefits yet because I want to maximize my own retirement benefit by waiting until I'm 70. I'm confused about what to tell SSA when I call. Do I specifically ask for "survivor benefits only" while I delay my own retirement benefits? Is there paperwork I need to prepare in advance? I read something about "restricted applications" being phased out and don't know if that affects my situation. I'm honestly struggling with grief and don't want to mess this up or break down during the call. Any advice on exactly what to say to make sure I get survivor benefits now but preserve my ability to switch to my own (higher) benefit at 70 would be so helpful. Thank you.
The strategy you're planning is called "survivor benefits only" or sometimes "filing a restricted application for survivor benefits." The phase-out of restricted applications only affected spousal benefits combined with retirement benefits (under the 2015 Bipartisan Budget Act), not survivor benefits. For maximum clarity when you call, I recommend this specific phrasing: "I wish to file for survivor benefits only on my deceased husband's record. I understand I'm eligible for both survivor benefits and retirement benefits on my own record, but I want to restrict my application to survivor benefits only at this time, as I plan to switch to my own retirement benefits at age 70." This leaves no room for misunderstanding. Also, if you have any issues, reference POMS GN 00204.020, which is SSA's internal policy that confirms your right to restrict an application to survivor benefits.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Zoe. What you're going through is incredibly difficult, and it's completely understandable to feel overwhelmed by these decisions while grieving. I want to add one more practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation: consider scheduling your SSA call for a time when you feel most emotionally steady (for me, that was mid-morning), and have a glass of water nearby. The call might take a while, and grief can be physically exhausting. Also, don't hesitate to tell the SSA representative at the start of the call that you recently lost your spouse and may need them to speak slowly or repeat information. Most are very understanding and will take extra care to make sure you understand everything correctly. You've got a solid plan, and this community has given you excellent guidance. You're going to get through this. ❤️
I'm beyond frustrated with the Social Security office right now! I'm 72, receiving a state teacher's pension (never had SS taxes withheld), and my husband (73) receives regular Social Security benefits. With the recent changes to the Government Pension Offset (GPO), I should now be eligible to receive spousal benefits - about half of my husband's SS amount. But every time I try to apply, the SSA representatives shut me down immediately. They keep saying my pension is an "offset" and won't even let me submit an application! When I explained that the GPO rules have changed and the law was updated, they literally told me that "Social Security hasn't instructed them to implement this new law yet." Is anyone else experiencing this? How can they refuse to even take my application? I've printed out information about the law change, but they won't budge. What steps should I take to get past this roadblock? My husband's monthly benefit is around $2,950, so this is significant money they're preventing me from accessing!
For anyone following this thread with a similar GPO situation, there's an important time element to consider. If you're currently eligible for spousal benefits under the new GPO rules, you should establish a protective filing date as soon as possible. Benefits can only be paid retroactively for 6 months from your application date. So even though the law has changed, you won't automatically receive payments - you need to apply, and the sooner you establish that filing date, the better. If you encounter resistance, escalate to supervisors and be persistent. Document every interaction with names, dates and what was discussed. This paper trail will be valuable if you need to appeal or request retroactive payments later.
I'm dealing with this exact same issue! I'm a retired postal worker with a CSRS pension, and my husband gets Social Security. When I went to apply for spousal benefits last week, they told me flat out that I'm not eligible because of my federal pension. I tried explaining about the GPO reform but the representative just kept saying "the computer won't let me process this type of application." It's so frustrating - they act like the law never changed! I'm going to try again next week armed with the Public Law 118-29 documentation and specifically ask for a Technical Expert like others suggested here. Has anyone had success at a particular SSA office location? I'm wondering if some offices are more up-to-date on the changes than others. Might be worth driving to a different location if needed.
I'm planning to start taking my Social Security next year at 63, but I'll still be working part-time. I'm confused about the earnings limit that applies before full retirement age. When they calculate if I've exceeded the annual limit (before they start withholding benefits), does the Social Security payment itself count as part of my 'earnings'? Or is the limit just counting what I make from my actual job? I can't seem to find a clear answer on the SSA website, and I need to budget carefully for 2025. Thanks for any help!
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: only my work income counts toward the earnings limit (about $22,300 for 2025), NOT my Social Security benefits. And they use the gross amount before deductions. I really appreciate all the clarification - this makes my retirement planning much easier. I'll be sure to report my expected earnings accurately when I apply next year to avoid any surprises.
Just wanted to add one more helpful tip for anyone in a similar situation - keep detailed records of your monthly earnings throughout the year! I learned this the hard way when SSA asked me to verify my income. Having pay stubs organized by month made the process much smoother. Also, if you have any months where you earn significantly more or less (like seasonal work or bonuses), it's worth calling SSA to update your earnings estimate. They're much more understanding if you're proactive about reporting changes rather than them finding out later during their annual review.
My father-in-law just passed away yesterday (the 30th), and both he and my mother-in-law receive their Social Security payments on the 1st of each month. Their benefits are scheduled to hit their bank account tomorrow. I'm trying to help her figure out what happens now. Will both payments still come through? Will SSA somehow know he died and stop his payment? Do we need to return his final payment? My mother-in-law is completely overwhelmed with grief and I don't want her to have financial issues on top of everything else. She mentioned his benefit was around $2,750 and hers is only $1,200. What steps do we need to take immediately?
Make sure she doesn't spend any of his money from SS after he died. My sister got in big trouble for this, they call it benefit fraud even if you don't mean to do it.
I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is such a difficult time and it's kind of you to help navigate these complicated issues. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the most important thing is to report his death to SSA immediately - don't wait even a few days. The payment tomorrow should be legitimate since it's for September when he was alive the whole month, but definitely don't touch that money until you confirm with SSA. One thing I'd add is to keep detailed records of every conversation with SSA - date, time, who you spoke with, and what was discussed. Government agencies can be disorganized and having your own paper trail can save a lot of headaches later. Also consider having a close family member or friend help with some of these calls since dealing with bureaucracy while grieving is overwhelming. Take care of yourselves during this process.
Jasmine Quinn
One additional point: since you're applying right at your FRA (66 and 8 months), double-check that the SSA correctly notes your FRA date in your application status. Sometimes their automated system can miscalculate by a month if you're right at the cutoff. Your benefit amount should be 100% of your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) since you're claiming exactly at FRA - not reduced for early claiming or increased for delayed credits. Also, in May when you get your first payment, take a moment to verify that the amount matches what was shown on your Social Security statement. If there's a discrepancy, contact them right away. It's much easier to fix payment issues in the first few months than trying to correct them years later.
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Victoria Charity
AuthorThank you! That's really helpful. I did notice on my Social Security statement that my estimated benefit at FRA was $2,575, so I'll definitely check that the actual payment (minus the Medicare premium) matches up with that amount. Great tip about verifying early - I wouldn't have thought about checking that closely.
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Brooklyn Knight
Just wanted to add one more thing that might help ease your nerves - since you applied online, you should receive an email confirmation within 24-48 hours if SSA needs any additional documentation from you. No news is usually good news in this case! Also, once your application is approved, you'll get what's called a "Notice of Award" letter in the mail that breaks down your exact benefit amount, when payments start, and any deductions (like Medicare premiums). This usually arrives 2-3 weeks before your first payment, so don't panic if you don't see it immediately. One last tip: if you're planning to travel internationally after you start receiving benefits, make sure to notify SSA beforehand. Some countries have restrictions that could temporarily suspend payments, and it's easier to handle this proactively than to deal with suspended benefits later. Sounds like you've done everything right by waiting until FRA and applying at the right time. The third Wednesday in May should be your day!
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