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I'm really sorry for your loss. This is such a complex situation, but I'm glad you're thinking ahead and planning for your future. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might want to consider reaching out to a Social Security disability attorney or elder law attorney who has experience with international cases. Many offer free consultations and can help you understand the nuances of claiming benefits while living abroad. They often have established relationships with FBUs and know exactly what documentation you'll need. Also, since you mentioned your children are all adults and US citizens, they might be able to help you navigate some of the US-based requirements if needed. Sometimes having someone stateside who can make calls during business hours or pick up documents can be really helpful. The fact that you have 5 years to prepare is actually a blessing in disguise - most people don't have that luxury of time to get everything organized properly. You're being really smart about starting this research now rather than scrambling when you turn 60. One last thought - if your home country has a US embassy with an FBU, they might also offer informational seminars or workshops about Social Security benefits for Americans abroad. It could be worth checking their website or calling to see if they have any scheduled events that might be helpful.
These are all excellent suggestions! I hadn't thought about consulting with a Social Security attorney who has international experience - that could be really valuable for understanding all the nuances I might miss on my own. You're absolutely right that having my children stateside could be helpful, especially for handling any paperwork or making calls during US business hours. I'll ask them if they'd be willing to help when the time comes. I'm also going to check the US embassy website to see if they offer any seminars about benefits for Americans abroad - that's a great idea I wouldn't have thought of. Thank you for reinforcing that starting early is smart rather than something to worry about. With everyone's advice here, I feel like I have a really comprehensive roadmap for the next 5 years!
I'm really sorry for your loss. This thread has been incredibly informative - it's amazing how much helpful information everyone has shared! One additional resource I wanted to mention is the Social Security Administration's "Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States" publication (SSA Publication No. 05-10137). It has detailed information about receiving benefits while living abroad and covers many of the issues that have been discussed here like totalization agreements and payment restrictions by country. You can find it on the SSA website or ask the FBU to provide you with a copy when you meet with them. It's written specifically for people in your situation and might answer some questions you haven't even thought to ask yet. Also, since you're planning 5 years ahead, you might want to set a reminder to check back on any rule changes annually. Social Security rules can change, and international payment policies sometimes get updated. The FBU can help you stay informed about any changes that might affect your situation. Your methodical approach to planning this out is really admirable - your future self will definitely thank you for being so thorough now!
Thank you so much for mentioning that SSA publication! I just looked it up and it looks like exactly what I need to read through carefully. Having a comprehensive official resource that covers international payments and all these complex rules will be really helpful as I prepare for my FBU appointment. I love the suggestion about setting annual reminders to check for rule changes - that's so practical and something I definitely wouldn't have thought of on my own. You're right that 5 years is a long time and policies could definitely change. I'm going to add "check for SSA rule updates" to my calendar every January. This entire thread has been such a goldmine of information - I went from feeling completely lost to having a clear action plan. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences!
Fantastic outcome! This is such a great example of why it's worth asking HR about these timing issues. Many people don't realize they can often request changes to payout dates for exactly these reasons. Your story will definitely help others in similar situations. Enjoy your well-deserved retirement and congratulations on getting this sorted out before it became a problem!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm new here but facing a similar situation with my retirement planning. It's amazing how these seemingly small timing details can have such big impacts on Social Security benefits. Really appreciate everyone sharing their knowledge and experiences - it makes navigating these complex rules so much easier when you have a supportive community like this!
Welcome to the community, Jamal! You're absolutely right about how these timing details can make such a huge difference. I've learned so much from threads like this one too. If you're facing a similar PTO payout situation, definitely start the conversation with your HR department early - as Dmitry found out, they often can accommodate these requests but need advance notice. The key thing to remember is that Social Security counts income when you receive it, not when you earned it. Feel free to ask questions here - this community has been incredibly helpful for navigating all the complexities of Social Security and retirement planning!
I'm so glad you posted this question because I was literally wondering the same thing! I just started receiving Social Security benefits at 62 and have been terrified about accidentally going over the earnings limit. Reading all these responses has been incredibly educational - I had no idea there was such a clear distinction between "earned" and "unearned" income. It makes perfect sense that they only care about whether you're actively working, not about one-time asset sales or retirement withdrawals. This community is amazing for getting real-world experiences from people who've actually dealt with these situations. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories!
I completely agree! As someone who just started navigating all this Social Security stuff myself, it's so reassuring to see real people sharing their actual experiences. The whole earned vs unearned income distinction was totally new to me too - I wish the SSA website explained it this clearly! It's amazing how much peace of mind you can get from hearing "I went through the exact same thing and it was fine." Thanks to everyone for being so helpful and sharing their stories!
I'm glad this question got so many detailed responses! As someone who's been helping people navigate SSA benefits for years, I want to emphasize what others have said - the earnings test is very specific about what counts. Only "earned income" from active work counts toward the $22,320 limit. Your timeshare sale and 401k withdrawals are both considered "unearned income" and are completely exempt. The SSA Publication 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits" explains this clearly if you want the official source. You can sleep easy knowing you're well within the limits!
Thank you so much for mentioning that SSA publication! I'm new to all this and really appreciate having an official source to reference. It's reassuring to hear from someone with experience helping people navigate these benefits. I was getting overwhelmed trying to understand all the different rules, but this thread has been incredibly helpful. The distinction between earned and unearned income makes so much more sense now - I wish I had known about this resource earlier!
When i started SS last year i had to quit my good payin job and find something with less hours cause of this stupid rule!! I'm still MAD they dont explain this stuff better!
I understand your frustration. The earnings limit can be confusing. One option for people in your situation is to wait until Full Retirement Age to claim benefits if they want to continue working substantial hours. That way there's no limit on earnings. But everyone's situation is different, and sometimes claiming early makes sense even with the earnings restriction.
Just wanted to add one more helpful detail - if you're tracking your earnings throughout the year, Social Security uses your gross wages (before taxes) when calculating against the earnings limit. So make sure you're looking at your gross pay from that part-time job, not your take-home pay. Also, if you get a raise or bonus during the year, factor that in too. The SSA website has a really helpful earnings test calculator where you can plug in your expected annual earnings to see exactly how it would affect your benefits if you do go over the limit.
Thank you for mentioning the earnings test calculator! I didn't know the SSA website had that tool. That sounds really helpful for planning purposes. I'll definitely check that out so I can see exactly where I stand and maybe even model what would happen if I did decide to pick up those extra hours at work. It's so much better to have concrete numbers rather than just guessing.
That's really helpful about using gross wages - I was actually looking at my net pay when doing my calculations! No wonder my numbers seemed off. And I had no idea SSA had an earnings test calculator on their website. That sounds like exactly what I need to figure out whether I can safely take on more hours. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Maya Lewis
Just wanted to add that you should also be prepared for the application process to take some time. When I applied for divorced spouse benefits, it took about 6-8 weeks to process even though I had all the documentation ready. The good news is that if approved, they'll backdate the payments to when you first became eligible. Also, make sure to keep copies of everything you submit - your divorce decree, marriage certificate, and any correspondence with SSA. The system can be slow but you're definitely entitled to these benefits based on what you've described. Good luck with your application!
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Ava Martinez
•This is really helpful to know about the processing time! I was wondering how long it might take. The backdating is great news too - I had no idea they would do that. I'll definitely make copies of everything. Do you remember if they needed your ex-husband's Social Security number for the application, or did they find his record some other way?
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Issac Nightingale
•Yes, they definitely needed my ex-husband's Social Security number for the application. I had it from old tax documents, but if you don't have it, they might be able to work with his full name and date of birth, though it could slow things down. They also asked for the exact dates of our marriage and divorce, so having those handy helps speed up the process. The SSA rep told me they use the SSN to pull up his earnings record to verify the PIA amount.
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StarStrider
This is such valuable information for anyone in a similar situation! I'm going through something comparable - I'm 62 and just applied for SSDI after a lengthy battle. My ex and I were married for 18 years before divorcing 4 years ago. Reading through all these responses really helps clarify the process. One thing I'd add is that when you call SSA, try calling first thing in the morning right when they open at 8 AM - I've had better luck getting through then rather than mid-day. Also, if you're having trouble reaching them by phone, some local SSA offices allow walk-ins for certain types of applications, though you'll want to call ahead to confirm. The divorced spouse benefit can really make a significant difference financially, so definitely don't give up if the first person you talk to seems confused about the rules - sometimes it takes speaking with a supervisor or specialist to get accurate information.
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