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don't forget you need your marriage certificate and divorce decree when you apply! learned that the hard way
I just went through this process myself last year! A few practical tips that might help: 1. **Call SSA early in the morning** (right at 8 AM) or late in the afternoon for shorter wait times. Tuesday-Thursday seem to be less busy. 2. **Have all your documents ready** before calling: marriage certificate, divorce decree, your Social Security card, and your ex's full name and DOB if you have it. 3. **Use the exact phrase "restricted application for divorced spouse benefits only"** when talking to the representative. Don't just say you want ex-spouse benefits - be specific that you want to delay your own retirement benefits. 4. **Get confirmation in writing** - ask them to mail you a summary of what you applied for to avoid any mix-ups. The whole process took about 45 minutes once I got through to someone, and my first payment came about 6 weeks later. Even if you're not 100% sure about your ex's benefit amount, it's worth applying now since you can always withdraw the application within 12 months if you change your mind. Good luck!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I especially appreciate the tip about calling early morning - I've been trying to reach them during lunch breaks with no luck. The specific phrase about "restricted application for divorced spouse benefits only" is exactly what I needed to know. I'll make sure to gather all my documents first and use that exact wording when I call. Getting confirmation in writing is a great idea too - I don't want to end up in the same situation as someone else mentioned where they accidentally filed for the wrong benefits.
As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful and informative this entire thread has been! CosmicCruiser, congratulations on your new job - what a wonderful outcome! Reading through everyone's responses really highlights how important it is to get accurate information from people who've actually dealt with these situations firsthand. The consistent message from experienced community members that your income won't affect your children's survivor benefits must have been such a relief to hear. It's also educational to see the clarifications about different types of benefits (survivor benefits vs. SSI) and how the earnings limits work. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes such a difference for families navigating these complex systems. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences - it's clear this community is a valuable resource for anyone dealing with Social Security benefits!
Welcome to the community, Zadie! I'm also new here and have been really moved by this entire discussion. What's so wonderful about this thread is seeing how CosmicCruiser went from anxiety about a major career decision to confidence and excitement - all thanks to the generous knowledge-sharing from experienced community members. As a newcomer myself, I've learned so much about how survivor benefits work and how they're completely separate from parental income. It's threads like this that show the real value of peer support when dealing with government programs that can seem overwhelming. The fact that CosmicCruiser can now start her new $72,000 position knowing her children's benefits are secure is just the perfect outcome. Thank you to all the experienced members who took the time to share their insights - this community is clearly a treasure for anyone navigating these complex benefit systems!
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to express how incredibly valuable this entire discussion has been to read! CosmicCruiser, huge congratulations on your new job - what an amazing outcome! This thread is such a perfect example of why community support matters so much when dealing with Social Security benefits. Seeing how you went from genuine worry about potentially losing your children's benefits to confidently accepting a great career opportunity really shows the power of getting accurate information from people with real experience. The consistent reassurance from multiple members that your income has zero impact on your kids' survivor benefits must have been such a weight off your shoulders. I've learned so much just from reading through everyone's responses, especially the important distinctions between different benefit programs. It's wonderful that your family now has both the continued survivor benefits AND the stability of your new full-time position. Thank you to all the experienced members who shared their knowledge - this community is clearly an invaluable resource for navigating these complex systems!
Glad you got confirmation! One last tip - schedule the appointment for AFTER you've submitted your own retirement application. Her benefits are dependent on yours being processed first. You can actually apply for both at the same time, but make sure your retirement application is mentioned first when you schedule the appointment.
Just wanted to add another piece of info that might be helpful - when you do apply for your daughter's benefits, they'll be retroactive up to 6 months from your application date (but not before your retirement benefits start). So even if there's a delay in getting the appointment scheduled, you won't lose out on those monthly payments. The SSA will calculate back to when she first became eligible and issue any back payments in a lump sum with her first check. This was really helpful for us when there was a 2-month delay getting all our paperwork processed!
That's really good to know about the retroactive payments! I was worried that any delays in scheduling might cost us money, but knowing they'll backdate up to 6 months is reassuring. Two months for processing doesn't sound too bad either - I was expecting it might take much longer given how hard it's been just to get through on the phone. Thanks for sharing your experience!
By the way, it's worth checking if your state has any supplemental programs to offset the WEP reduction. A handful of states have recognized how WEP hurts their public employees and created special supplemental benefit programs. I know Colorado, Massachusetts, and Ohio have something like this. Might be worth asking your HR department if there's anything similar in your pension system.
Carmen, regarding your question about working part-time in a SS-covered job to get more substantial earnings years - it can be worth it, but you'd need to run the numbers carefully. Each additional year of substantial earnings reduces your WEP penalty by about 5% of the maximum reduction. So going from 12 to 15 substantial years would save you roughly $94/month ($627 × 15%). The substantial earnings threshold for 2025 is expected to be around $31,275, so you'd need to earn at least that much in SS-covered employment for the year to count. If you can find part-time work that pays well enough and you're physically able to do it for a few years, it might make financial sense - especially since you'd also be earning additional SS credits that increase your base benefit amount. Just remember that your state pension system might have restrictions on working after retirement, so check those rules first. Some systems reduce your pension if you work for another government entity or work too many hours.
This is really valuable information, thank you Jade! I hadn't thought about the math this way - $94/month extra for the rest of my retirement could really add up over time. That's over $1,100 per year. You make a great point about checking pension system restrictions. I know our state system has some rules about "return to work" but I'm not sure if they apply to private sector employment or just government jobs. I'll definitely need to clarify that with HR before making any decisions. One more question - do you know if those substantial earnings years have to be consecutive, or can they be scattered throughout your career? I'm wondering if picking up some consulting work or seasonal employment might be a viable option to gradually build up those years.
Mei Wong
I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience. I'm 74 and have been affected by WEP for about 8 years - my monthly benefit has been reduced by roughly $650. I haven't received any adjustment yet, but after reading through all these comments, I feel a bit more hopeful! It's reassuring to hear that Jamal actually got his increase, even though the timeline seems all over the place. I tried calling SSA twice this month but gave up after waiting over an hour each time. Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like we just need to be patient and keep checking our accounts. I'll definitely look into that Claimyr service Zoe mentioned to avoid those long hold times. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it helps to know we're all in this together!
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Khalil Urso
•Welcome to the community, Mei! Your situation sounds very similar to mine - I'm also dealing with that frustrating uncertainty about when we'll actually see these adjustments. It's really helpful to have someone like Jamal who can confirm that the payments are actually happening, even if the timeline is unclear. I definitely recommend trying Claimyr if you need to call SSA again - anything to avoid those endless hold times! Please keep us posted if you see any changes to your account. With so many of us in the same boat, sharing our experiences really does help everyone stay informed about what's actually happening versus what we're being told by different SSA representatives.
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Nora Brooks
I just wanted to add my experience to this discussion. I'm 69 and have been dealing with WEP reductions for about 12 years due to my state teacher's pension - losing around $720 per month from my Social Security benefits. Like many of you, I've been eagerly waiting for news about the WEP repeal adjustments. I called SSA two weeks ago and was told the same thing about automatic processing, but the representative couldn't give me any specific timeline. What's encouraging is reading Jamal's experience about actually receiving the adjustment! It gives me hope that this is really happening, even if the rollout seems chaotic. I've been checking my bank account daily like it's Christmas morning. One thing I wanted to mention - I've been keeping detailed records of all my calls to SSA and taking screenshots of my online account, just in case there are any issues down the line. I'd recommend others do the same. The inconsistent information from different reps is definitely frustrating, but at least we have this community to share real experiences and keep each other updated!
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