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my dad just went thru this! he said make sure you tell them you reached FRA when you call because sometimes the customer service people get confused about which rule applies to you. he had to call back 3 times to get someone who understood the rule correctly lol
I'm in a very similar situation! I reach my FRA in July 2025 and have been worried about the same thing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea the earnings test only applied to the months before FRA rather than the entire year. One thing I'm curious about - for those who've been through this process, do you need to proactively notify Social Security about your earnings timeline, or do they automatically figure it out based on when you file and your reported income? I want to make sure I don't get caught up in any administrative mix-ups like some folks mentioned here. Also, has anyone dealt with self-employment income in this situation? I have both W-2 wages and some 1099 income, so I'm wondering if the timing gets more complicated when part of your pre-FRA earnings come from self-employment.
Welcome to the community! I'm new here too but have been following this thread closely since I'm in a similar boat. From what I've gathered from everyone's responses, it sounds like Social Security should automatically handle the timing based on your FRA date, but given some of the horror stories shared here about mix-ups, it might be worth being proactive. For the self-employment income question - that's a great point I hadn't thought of! Self-employment earnings are typically counted when earned rather than when paid, so the timing might indeed get trickier. You might want to keep detailed records of exactly when that 1099 work was performed vs when you got paid, especially if any payments cross over your FRA date. Has anyone else dealt with mixed W-2 and 1099 income around their FRA? Would love to hear how that worked out!
I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm in a similar situation - lost my husband at 64 two years ago and I'm now 59. I've been researching this exact strategy and wanted to share what I've learned from meeting with SSA and a financial planner. The key thing I discovered is that even if most of your survivor benefit gets withheld due to the earnings test, you're still establishing your "benefit start date" at 60. This matters because any benefits withheld get added back to your monthly payment once you hit your FRA, essentially giving you a permanent increase. Also, make sure to factor in Medicare timing. If you're planning to work until 65, you'll want to coordinate when to apply for Medicare Part A (which is automatic if you're receiving SS benefits) versus staying on your employer's health plan. One practical tip: I set up a my Social Security account online and requested my benefit estimates there. Much easier than calling! The survivor benefit estimate tool is pretty accurate once you input your husband's earnings record. Have you thought about doing a "practice run" with reduced hours when you turn 60 to see how the earnings test affects you in real time? That's what I'm considering.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and research - this is exactly the kind of real-world insight I was hoping for! I hadn't considered the "benefit start date" aspect and how the withheld benefits get added back as a permanent increase. That makes the strategy seem much more worthwhile even with the earnings test. The Medicare coordination is something I definitely need to research more. I have excellent health insurance through my employer right now, so I'll need to figure out the timing there. I love the idea of doing a "practice run" with reduced hours! That's brilliant - it would let me see the actual numbers in action rather than just trying to estimate. Did you end up trying this approach? And how accurate did you find the online benefit estimates compared to what SSA told you directly? I'm definitely going to set up that online account this week. Sounds much better than the phone horror stories everyone's sharing here!
I'm really sorry for your loss. I went through something very similar when my wife passed at 58 and I was 61. Just wanted to share a few things I learned that might help: First, definitely apply for the survivor benefits at 60 even if you're working. Yes, the earnings test will reduce what you receive, but like others mentioned, those "lost" benefits aren't really lost - they get added back to your monthly amount when you reach FRA. Plus you're locking in your filing date which matters for the calculations. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - you can actually withdraw your application within 12 months if you change your mind about the strategy. It's called a "withdrawal of application" and you'd have to pay back what you received, but it gives you flexibility if your work situation changes. Also, don't forget about the lump sum death benefit ($255) if you haven't claimed it yet. It's not much but every bit helps during this difficult time. The online tools at ssa.gov have gotten much better in recent years. The benefit calculators there gave me pretty accurate estimates, and you can model different scenarios without having to call and wait on hold for hours. Hang in there - navigating all this paperwork and financial planning while grieving is exhausting, but you're asking all the right questions.
Thank you for sharing your experience and for the kind words. I'm sorry for the loss of your wife as well - it's comforting to hear from someone who's been through this process. The withdrawal option is something I hadn't heard about before - that's really valuable to know! Having that 12-month flexibility could be a game-changer if my work situation changes unexpectedly or if I find the earnings test impact is worse than anticipated. I actually completely forgot about the lump sum death benefit. I was so focused on the long-term strategy that I missed that immediate step. Thank you for the reminder! It's reassuring to hear the online tools have improved. After reading about everyone's phone experiences here, I'm definitely going to start with the online calculators and my SSA account rather than trying to call. You're absolutely right about how exhausting this all is. Some days I feel like I need a PhD in Social Security just to make basic decisions! But this community has been incredibly helpful in breaking it all down into manageable pieces.
To give you complete peace of mind, call the Medicare Coordination of Benefits Contractor at 1-855-798-2627 to record that you have employer coverage as your primary insurance. This helps prevent claim processing errors. Also, keep documentation from your employer proving your continuous health coverage for when you eventually do enroll in Part B. This documentation will exempt you from late enrollment penalties when you fully retire.
wait i just realized something do you have a health savings account HSA with your work plan?? if you do, once you have ANY medicare (even just part A) you CANNOT contribute to HSA anymore!!! found this out hardway
Yes, you need to stop HSA contributions immediately when Medicare Part A begins. Contact your HR department ASAP to stop payroll deductions and any employer matching contributions. The IRS considers you enrolled in Medicare Part A from the first day you're eligible (usually your 65th birthday) even if you apply for Social Security later. You may need to withdraw any "excess contributions" made after your Medicare eligibility date to avoid tax penalties.
This HSA issue is really important and catches a lot of people off guard! @JacksonHarris since you mentioned you already received your Medicare Part A card, you're technically already enrolled. You should immediately contact your payroll/benefits department to stop all HSA contributions (both yours and any employer match) effective from when your Part A coverage began. Also, keep all your existing HSA funds - you can still use them for qualified medical expenses tax-free, you just can't add any new money. The good news is your existing HSA balance can help cover any out-of-pocket costs not covered by your employer plan or Medicare!
I'm so sorry you're going through this - job loss at our age is incredibly stressful, especially when you're trying to navigate all these interconnected systems. I was in a similar situation when I was laid off at 63 last year. From my experience and research, here's what I'd recommend for your specific situation: 1. **Apply for unemployment immediately** - You're entitled to this and it provides immediate income while you figure out the SS timing. 2. **The severance timing doesn't matter for SS purposes** - Severance is a one-time payment that doesn't count toward the earnings test, so you don't need to wait for it to clear before filing for Social Security. 3. **Consider the "bridge strategy"** - Use unemployment benefits (26 weeks) to delay your SS filing by a few months. Each month you wait increases your benefit amount slightly, and since it's permanent, even a small increase adds up over your lifetime. 4. **Be aware of spousal benefit implications** - Since your husband is still working and typically earned more, make sure you understand how claiming now might affect your future spousal benefit options due to deemed filing rules. 5. **Look into your state's rules** - Some states reduce unemployment if you're collecting SS, and states have different rules about how severance affects unemployment eligibility. The hardest part is that there's no single "right" answer - it depends on your financial needs, health, and long-term plans. But you have good options, and taking unemployment first gives you breathing room to make the SS decision thoughtfully. You've got this! The initial overwhelm is normal, but once you start taking action, it gets much more manageable.
Thank you so much for this comprehensive breakdown! Your bridge strategy really resonates with me - I think using the unemployment benefits to buy myself some time to make the SS decision more thoughtfully is exactly what I need right now. The stress of trying to decide everything at once has been paralyzing. The point about spousal benefits is something I definitely need to research more deeply. My husband has consistently out-earned me, so that could be a significant factor in the long-term financial picture. I'm going to sit down with our old tax returns this weekend to get a better sense of the potential difference. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this process successfully. The "you've got this" encouragement means more than you know - some days it really doesn't feel like I've got this at all! But you're right that taking that first step with unemployment will help everything else feel more manageable. Did you end up doing any part-time work after your unemployment ran out, or did you transition straight into full retirement?
I'm really sorry to hear about your situation - being laid off at 64 is such a difficult position to be in, especially when you're trying to coordinate all these different benefit systems. I went through something very similar when I was laid off at 65 last year, and I wanted to share what I learned about the coordination between unemployment, severance, and Social Security. First, you're absolutely right to apply for unemployment immediately. That's income you're entitled to and it gives you breathing room to make the other decisions without feeling rushed. Regarding your severance timing question - you don't need to worry about when it hits your account relative to filing for SS. Severance is considered a one-time payment and doesn't count toward the Social Security earnings test. Only ongoing wages from actual work count toward that $21,240 limit for 2025. One thing that really helped me was using the SSA's benefit calculator on their website to see exactly how much my monthly benefit would increase for each month I delayed filing. At 64 and 5 months, you're looking at roughly a 13% permanent reduction from your full retirement age amount. Each month you wait increases that benefit slightly - and it's permanent for life. The unemployment benefits can serve as a bridge while your SS benefit grows. Since unemployment in most states lasts 26 weeks, that gives you about 6 months to let your benefit amount increase before you need to make the filing decision. Just make sure to check your state's specific rules about collecting unemployment and SS simultaneously - most allow it, but a few have restrictions. One more consideration: since your husband is still working and younger, definitely look into the spousal benefit implications before you file. The deemed filing rules can affect your future options there. You're dealing with a lot right now, but taking it one step at a time makes it much more manageable. Start with unemployment, then you'll have space to make the SS decision thoughtfully.
Steven Adams
One thing to know is that withholding changes can actually be made a few different ways: 1. You can submit a W-4V form by mail or at a local office 2. You can request the change through your MySocialSecurity account online 3. A legal garnishment order can be applied (tax levy, child support, etc.) 4. Medicare premium changes can affect your net payment If someone accessed your online account, definitely report that as potential identity theft. SSA can see the IP address of whoever made the change. If it was a simple mistake, they can usually fix it within one payment cycle. Please update us when you get this resolved! It would help others who might face the same issue.
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Grace Durand
•Thanks for breaking this down so clearly! I finally was able to speak with someone at my local office today. Turns out it WAS an error on their end - somehow they applied a withholding change request from another beneficiary to my account (someone with a similar name/number). They're fixing it and said I should get the difference returned in my next month's payment. What a relief!
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Javier Morales
•That's such great news Grace! What a relief it must be to get that sorted out. It's scary how easily administrative errors like that can happen - mixing up accounts because of similar names/numbers. Thanks for updating us on the resolution! This will definitely help other people who might face the same situation know that persistence pays off and that these errors can be fixed.
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Yara Haddad
Wow, I'm so glad you got this resolved Grace! This is exactly why I always tell people not to give up when dealing with SSA - these administrative mix-ups happen more often than they should. It's honestly pretty concerning that they can accidentally apply one person's withholding request to someone else's account just because of similar names or numbers. Makes me wonder how often this happens without people noticing right away. Thank you for following up with the resolution - it's really helpful to know that local offices can fix these errors and get the money returned relatively quickly. I'm definitely saving this thread in case I ever run into something similar!
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Alfredo Lugo
•This is such a helpful thread! I'm new to receiving Social Security benefits and stories like this make me realize I need to be way more vigilant about checking my payments each month. It's honestly pretty alarming that mix-ups like this can happen so easily in their system. Grace, I'm so glad you were persistent and got it figured out! Do you have any tips for new beneficiaries on what to watch out for or how often we should be checking our accounts?
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