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As someone who's been through this exact decision process, I'd recommend also considering getting a personalized Social Security analysis from AARP or a fee-only financial planner. The math you've done looks solid, but there are so many variables (health, other income, tax implications, estate planning goals) that it's worth having a professional run the numbers with all your specific details. One thing I learned: if you do decide to take survivor benefits now, make sure to ask SSA about the "do-over" rule. You have 12 months to change your mind and pay back what you received if you want to restart at a higher benefit later. It's like a safety net for your decision. Also, have you looked into whether your late husband had any delayed retirement credits that might affect your survivor benefit calculations? Sometimes the estimates don't fully capture those nuances.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't heard about the "do-over" rule - that's actually really reassuring to know there's a safety net if I change my mind within the first year. And you're absolutely right about the delayed retirement credits. My husband did work until he was 68, so there might be credits I'm not accounting for in my calculations. I think getting a professional analysis is definitely worth the investment given the amount of money involved. Thank you for the practical suggestions!

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This is such a valuable discussion! I'm seeing a lot of great analysis here. One additional consideration that might be worth mentioning: Medicare premiums. If you're not yet on Medicare, remember that higher income from Social Security benefits could affect your future Medicare Part B and Part D premiums through IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount). The income they look at is from two years prior, so if you take the higher survivor benefit now, it could impact your Medicare costs starting in 2027. For 2025, the standard Part B premium is about $185/month, but it can go up to over $500/month for higher-income individuals. This probably won't change your overall decision since we're talking about relatively small amounts compared to the benefit differences you're analyzing, but it's another piece of the puzzle to consider when doing your comprehensive calculations.

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To answer your follow-up question - your wife claiming her own benefit early does NOT affect her survivor benefit. If you pass away, she would get your full benefit amount regardless of when she claimed her own benefit. This is why many financial advisors recommend the hybrid strategy for couples with significant benefit disparities. Given your numbers, if she claimed at her FRA (probably around $1,230/month based on what you shared), you'd get some SS income flowing while still maximizing your benefit (and her eventual survivor benefit). Just make sure she's at least at her own FRA to avoid any potential reduction from the earnings test if she's still working.

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This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea her claiming early wouldn't affect her survivor benefit. We'll definitely look into this hybrid approach. It seems like we could get some benefits flowing now while still protecting her long-term with the maximum survivor benefit. Thank you!

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As someone who recently went through this same decision process, I'd strongly recommend creating a simple spreadsheet to model both scenarios with your actual numbers. Include factors like potential tax implications, investment returns on the early money, and don't forget about Medicare premiums potentially increasing with higher income later. The hybrid approach mentioned by others is brilliant - having your wife claim at her FRA while you delay gives you the best of both worlds. You get some immediate cash flow for those home accessibility improvements and European trip, while still maximizing the survivor benefit protection. One thing I wish I'd considered earlier: inflation protection. That guaranteed 8% annual increase by waiting isn't just about the raw dollars - it's also building in better inflation protection for both of you long-term. With your strong longevity genes, that could be worth hundreds of thousands over your lifetimes. The peace of mind factor is real too. Knowing you've optimized for the surviving spouse (likely your wife given typical gender longevity differences) can be worth a lot psychologically, even if the pure math is close.

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This is such a thoughtful breakdown! As someone new to this community and facing retirement decisions myself, I really appreciate seeing all these different perspectives laid out. The spreadsheet idea makes so much sense - it's easy to get caught up in the emotional aspects of the decision without running the actual numbers. I hadn't thought about the Medicare premium implications of higher SS income later. Could you elaborate on how that might affect the calculation? Also, the inflation protection angle is really compelling - especially with everything we've seen with rising costs lately. The hybrid strategy seems like it could work well for a lot of couples. It's reassuring to see there are ways to get some benefits flowing while still protecting the long-term survivor benefit.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. This is definitely a complex situation, but you're smart to research your options thoroughly before making any decisions. One important clarification I'd like to add: while the earnings test can reduce your survivor benefits if you work before FRA, there's actually a special rule for the year you reach FRA. In that year, the earnings limit is much higher (about $60,240 for 2025) and only earnings in months before you reach FRA count against you. Since you'll be 65 in April, if your FRA is 67, you'd have this higher earnings limit available in 2027. This might influence your timing strategy. Also, I'd strongly recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. While it won't give you survivor benefit estimates (you need to speak with SSA for those), you can at least see your own benefit estimates and earnings history, which will help you compare your options. The suggestion about potentially reducing your work hours is excellent - sometimes a strategic reduction in income can actually increase your total monthly resources when benefits are factored in. Just make sure to run the numbers carefully with actual benefit amounts once you get them from SSA. Best of luck navigating this process!

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Thank you Mia, that's really valuable information about the special earnings limit rule in the year you reach FRA! I hadn't heard about that higher limit ($60,240) - that could definitely change the timing strategy. Since my FRA would be 67, having that much higher earnings limit in 2027 could make a big difference. I'll definitely ask about that when I speak with SSA. I do have a my Social Security account set up, so I can at least look at my own projected benefits while I wait to get the survivor benefit calculations. This whole thread has given me so many things to consider that I never would have thought of on my own. Really grateful for everyone's expertise here!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. Losing an ex-spouse brings up so many complicated feelings and practical concerns. Just wanted to add another perspective on your situation - since you mentioned being exhausted and wanting to work less, you might want to consider that this could actually be the perfect time to make a career transition. Some people use the survivor benefit as a bridge to help them shift to part-time work, freelancing, or even starting a small business where they have more control over their income timing. For example, if you could transition to contract or consulting work in your field, you might be able to time your income to stay under the earnings limits in certain years while earning more in others. This could give you both the financial breathing room and the lifestyle change you're looking for. Also, don't forget to check if your ex-husband had any life insurance policies that named you as beneficiary - sometimes people forget to update those after divorce, and it could provide additional financial cushion while you figure out your Social Security strategy. The fact that you're researching all this so thoroughly shows you're going to make a well-informed decision. Take your time and don't feel pressured to decide quickly - these benefits aren't going anywhere!

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That's such a thoughtful perspective about using this as an opportunity for career transition! I hadn't even considered the possibility of freelancing or consulting work where I could have more control over timing my income. As someone who's worked in the same office environment for years, the idea of having that kind of flexibility is really appealing, especially given how burned out I've been feeling lately. The point about life insurance policies is also really important - I honestly hadn't thought to check on that. My ex and I had a fairly amicable divorce, so it's possible he never updated those beneficiary designations. That could definitely provide some additional financial security while I'm figuring out this whole Social Security situation. Thank you for reminding me that I don't need to rush into any decisions - sometimes when you're dealing with grief and financial stress, it feels like everything needs to be decided immediately. It's reassuring to know I can take time to really think through all these options and maybe even explore some new career paths I hadn't considered before.

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I'm so very sorry for the loss of your mother, Jasmine. Sudden losses like this are especially shocking and my heart goes out to you and your family. I want to echo what others have said about calling SSA at 1-800-772-1213, but I also wanted to share something that might help with the waiting times. If you have access to a computer, you can also create a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov and report the death through their online system. Sometimes this can be faster than calling, especially during busy periods. You'll still likely need to follow up with a phone call, but it can get the initial report started. Also, when you do speak with SSA, ask them to send you a written confirmation that the death has been reported and that they've initiated the payment reclamation. Having this documentation can be helpful if any questions come up later with the bank or other agencies. Take care of yourself during this difficult time. You're doing everything right, even when it doesn't feel like it.

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Thank you, Giovanni. I hadn't thought about the online option - that's really helpful to know about. Being able to start the process online might save some time and stress, especially if the phone lines are busy. I'll definitely look into creating a my Social Security account. And requesting written confirmation is excellent advice - having documentation will give me peace of mind that everything has been properly reported. I really appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips during such a difficult period. This community has been such a blessing.

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I'm so incredibly sorry for your loss, Jasmine. Losing your mother suddenly like this is unimaginable, and my heart truly goes out to you during this devastating time. I wanted to add one more resource that might help you navigate this process. Many local SSA offices also have grief counselors or social workers who specialize in helping families through these situations. When you call the main number, you can ask if they have someone specifically trained in bereavement services who could walk you through not just the payment return process, but also help you understand all the other SSA-related tasks you might need to handle. Also, if you have other family members who might be calling SSA about your mother's death (siblings, spouse, etc.), make sure to coordinate so that multiple people aren't reporting the same information - this can sometimes cause confusion in their system. One last thing - please don't feel like you have to handle all of this immediately. SSA understands that families need time to grieve, and while it's good to report the death promptly, they won't penalize you if it takes a few days to get everything sorted out. You're being so thoughtful and responsible during an incredibly difficult time. Your mother would be proud of how you're handling everything. Sending you strength and comfort.

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Thank you so much, Alberto. I didn't know about grief counselors or social workers being available through SSA - that's incredibly valuable information. Having someone who specializes in bereavement services guide me through this would be such a relief. I'll definitely ask about that when I call. And you make a great point about coordinating with other family members. My husband might also want to call, so I'll make sure we're not duplicating efforts. Your reminder that SSA understands families need time to grieve really helps ease some of the pressure I've been putting on myself to get everything done immediately. Thank you for being so compassionate and for all the practical advice. This community has shown me such kindness during the worst time of my life.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful. If you do decide to wait until your FRA (which sounds like the smart move based on everyone's advice), make sure you understand what happens to any delayed retirement credits. While ex-spouse benefits don't earn delayed retirement credits past FRA, YOUR own retirement benefit does continue to grow by about 8% per year until age 70 if you delay claiming. So if your own benefit might eventually be higher than the ex-spouse benefit, waiting until 70 to claim could maximize your monthly payment for life. Also, just a heads up - even though the earnings test goes away at FRA, you'll still need to consider the tax implications of Social Security benefits combined with your work income. The taxation thresholds are pretty low, so you might end up paying taxes on a significant portion of your benefits even after FRA. It's frustrating how complicated they've made this system, but it sounds like you're getting good advice here to wait it out!

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This is such valuable information, thank you Lucas! I hadn't really thought about the delayed retirement credits on my own benefit. It sounds like I should definitely compare what my own benefit would be at 70 versus the ex-spouse benefit to see which strategy makes more sense long-term. The 8% annual growth after FRA could really add up over those 4 years. I'm starting to think waiting might not just avoid the earnings test headache, but could actually result in a much better financial outcome overall. Thanks for adding this perspective!

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I just went through a very similar situation last year and wanted to share what I learned. I'm 65 now and was also considering claiming on my ex-husband's record while still working. After doing a lot of research and talking to a financial advisor, I decided to wait until my FRA. Here's what really helped me make the decision: I used the Social Security Administration's online calculator to run different scenarios. You can input your current earnings and see exactly how much they would withhold under the earnings test. In my case, with a $40K income, they would have taken back almost 75% of my benefits - it just wasn't worth the hassle. One thing I didn't see mentioned here is that if you're close to your ex-husband's age, his benefits might still be growing too if he hasn't reached 70 yet. So the 50% calculation for your ex-spouse benefit could actually increase if he's still earning delayed retirement credits. My advice? Create that MySocialSecurity account ASAP (it's actually pretty straightforward to set up) and run the numbers for yourself. Compare your projected benefit at 70 vs the ex-spouse benefit vs claiming now with the earnings reduction. The math will help you decide what's best for your specific situation. Good luck navigating this - I know how frustrating it can be when you can't get through to anyone at SSA for real answers!

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