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I just received my first survivor benefits payment after my husband passed away last year. I applied in February 2025 and was surprised how quickly SSA processed everything! They sent me a lump sum payment covering benefits back to August 2024, which is great, but I noticed something odd in the calculation. They deducted about $1,380 for "medical premiums" from my backpay, but I've been paying my Medicare premiums directly every month since turning 65 three years ago (I'm 68 now and at my FRA). I don't understand why they're taking out additional medical premiums when I've already paid Medicare Part B for those months. Is this some special survivor benefit medical deduction I don't know about? Or did SSA make a mistake? I'm still working part-time as an elementary school aide, if that matters. Anyone else experienced this kind of double-charging with survivor benefits?
My 70th birthday is coming up on December 15, 2024, and I want to make sure I get the maximum Social Security retirement benefit. I've waited all these years to get the delayed retirement credits, and I don't want to mess up at the finish line! I've heard different advice about when to actually submit my application - 3 months before? 1 month before? Should I apply now or wait until closer to my birthday? I'm worried that if I apply too early, they might start my benefits before I turn 70, but if I wait too long, I might miss out on my December payment. Anyone know the exact timing for applying to ensure I get my full benefit starting exactly in December?
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I'll go ahead and apply in September and make sure to specify December 2024 as my start month. And I'll remember that the first payment will arrive in January. I appreciate all the suggestions and personal experiences shared here.
You're making a smart move applying in September! Just wanted to add one more tip that helped me when I applied - keep a copy of your confirmation number and any emails SSA sends you. I also recommend checking your my Social Security account online periodically after applying to track the status. The online portal will show when your application moves through different stages of processing. Good luck with everything, and enjoy those maximum benefits you've earned by waiting!
I've been dealing with degenerative disc disease for about 8 years now, and it's gotten to the point where I had to scale back to part-time work (25-30 hours weekly) at my accounting job. The pain is just too intense after sitting at a desk for more than 4-5 hours. I've had 3 cortisone injections, physical therapy, and tried all sorts of medications, but nothing gives lasting relief. I just turned 62 last month and was planning to apply for early Social Security retirement benefits since I can't earn what I used to. But my sister-in-law (who's on SSDI for rheumatoid arthritis) is insisting I should apply for disability instead. She says the benefit would be higher than taking early retirement. Is it even worth trying for SSDI at my age? My doctor is supportive and said she'd document everything, but I've heard horror stories about the application process and denials. Has anyone here successfully gotten SSDI when they were already retirement eligible? I'm confused about which path makes more financial sense in my situation.
i no i said it before but seruously apply for both! my uncle got early retirement at 62 then SSDI got approved like 8 months later and they paid him all the backpay from when he first applyed!!! he got like $7000 in one payment! dont miss out on that!!
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses! I've decided to apply for both early retirement and SSDI. I've gathered all my medical records going back to 2019, created a list of all treatments I've tried, and my doctor has provided a detailed statement about my limitations. I've also started tracking my daily pain levels and how they affect my work capacity. I'm still nervous about the SSDI process, but the potential difference in benefits makes it worth trying. I'll update this thread once I hear something from SSA. Thanks again for all the guidance!
That's an excellent approach! One more recommendation: when describing your limitations to SSA, focus on your worst days, not your average days. Many applicants make the mistake of reporting what they can do on good days, which can hurt their case. Also, be very specific about workplace limitations (how long you can sit/stand, need for unscheduled breaks, days missed due to symptoms, etc.).
Good luck Sofia! You're taking exactly the right approach by applying for both. Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit and don't get discouraged if the SSDI gets denied initially - that's unfortunately normal. The appeals process exists for a reason and many people win on appeal even after initial denials. Wishing you the best outcome!
I started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits in January at age 63. My monthly payment is $1760. My husband is 68 and gets $2400 a month from Social Security. We've been trying to do some estate planning and I realized I don't understand how survivor benefits work. If my husband passes away before me, would I be eligible to receive his higher benefit amount instead of mine? And if I die first, would he get anything from my benefits? We've been married for 32 years if that matters. Neither of us had previous marriages. I've tried reading the SSA website but got confused with all the different rules and provisions. Thanks for any help explaining this!
One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful for your planning - if you're interested in maximizing the survivor benefit, you and your husband could consider strategies around when he files for benefits if he hasn't already. Since he's 68 and already receiving $2400, this might not apply, but for others reading this thread: if the higher-earning spouse delays claiming Social Security until age 70, their benefit (and thus the future survivor benefit) grows by about 8% per year through delayed retirement credits. This can make a significant difference in the survivor benefit amount. Also, keep good records of both your Social Security statements and any communications with SSA - it makes the process much smoother when the time comes to file for survivor benefits.
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed to this discussion! As someone who's been putting off understanding Social Security survivor benefits, this thread has been incredibly educational. The way you all broke down the differences between retirement benefit reductions and survivor benefit reductions, explained the application process, and even covered tax implications and edge cases like disability benefits - it's exactly the kind of real-world information that's hard to find elsewhere. I'm bookmarking this entire conversation to reference later. It's also reassuring to see how supportive this community is during what can be a very stressful and confusing process. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experiences!
I completely agree! This thread has been such a goldmine of information. As someone new to navigating Social Security, I was feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different rules and scenarios, but reading through everyone's experiences and explanations has made it so much clearer. The personal stories about actually going through the survivor benefit process, like what Freya shared about her parents, really help put the bureaucratic details into perspective. And I had no idea about services like Claimyr or the importance of keeping detailed records. It's amazing how much practical wisdom this community has - definitely makes me feel more confident about planning ahead. Thanks to everyone for being so generous with their knowledge!
I've been helping my dad with his finances since his stroke and I'm confused about which benefit he's receiving. The payment notice just says 'Social Security' but doesn't specify if it's SSI or SSDI. He worked for about 22 years before becoming disabled in his late 40s. The monthly amount is $1,675 and there are Medicare premiums being deducted. How can I figure out which program he's actually on? Does it make a difference for his healthcare coverage or if he wants to move to a different state? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm trying to make sure I understand everything correctly as his caregiver.
The WHOLE SYSTEM is designed to be confusing!!! They make it complicated on purpose so people don't get all the benefits they deserve! I've been fighting with them for YEARS about my benefits. Every time I call I get different answers!!!!!
While the system can certainly be confusing, the differences between SSI and SSDI actually serve different purposes. SSDI is insurance-based (you pay in through FICA taxes while working) and SSI is needs-based (for those with limited income and resources). But I agree the terminology and paperwork could be much clearer.
Not a dumb question at all! As someone who's been through the disability system, I can tell you the documentation is deliberately confusing. Based on what you've shared - $1,675 monthly payment, Medicare deductions, and 22 years of work history - your father is definitely receiving SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance), not SSI. The key differences that confirm this: - Payment amount: SSI maxes out at $943/month for 2025, so $1,675 indicates SSDI - Medicare premiums being deducted: Only SSDI recipients get Medicare after 24 months; SSI recipients get Medicaid - Work history: 22 years of work means he earned enough credits for SSDI For future reference, you can always check his MySocialSecurity account online or look for the award letter that should specifically say "Social Security Disability Insurance." The good news is SSDI is generally more flexible than SSI - no asset limits, same benefits nationwide if you move, and better work incentive programs if he ever wants to try working again during recovery. Hope this helps clarify things for you both!
Freya Thomsen
Update: Just wanted to report back that I got my Medicare premium issue resolved! I finally got through to SSA (took three attempts), and the representative confirmed this was a duplicate billing situation. They filed an adjustment request, and I received the refunded premiums in my next month's payment. They also switched my Medicare billing to come directly from my monthly survivor benefits going forward, which is much more convenient. Thanks to everyone for your advice - especially the tip about specifically asking for a "Medicare premium billing adjustment" - the agent knew exactly what I meant!
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Emma Davis
AuthorThank you so much for coming back to share your experience! This gives me hope that my situation will be resolved fairly quickly too. Did they require any specific documentation from you, or were they able to verify your previous payments through their system?
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Freya Thomsen
They could see I had been paying directly, but I still had to send in bank statements showing the withdrawals just to confirm. The agent said having documentation speeds things up. Good luck with yours!
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Hunter Edmunds
I'm so sorry for your loss, Emma. This Medicare premium double-billing issue is unfortunately very common with survivor benefits, and you're absolutely right to question it. The Social Security Administration and Medicare systems don't communicate well with each other, so when you receive retroactive benefits, SSA automatically deducts Medicare premiums without knowing you've already been paying them directly. I went through something similar when I started receiving disability benefits. Here's what worked for me: Call SSA and specifically ask for a "Medicare Premium Refund" or "Premium Billing Adjustment." Have your bank statements ready showing the direct Medicare payments you made for those months. They'll need to verify with Medicare that you were indeed paying directly, but once they do, they should refund the duplicate charges. The good news is that once this gets straightened out, you can choose to have your Medicare premiums automatically deducted from your monthly survivor benefits going forward - it's actually much more convenient than paying separately. Hang in there, and don't give up if the first call doesn't resolve it. Sometimes it takes persistence with government agencies!
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