Will I qualify for Social Security spousal benefits if I marry someone on SSDI?
I'm trying to understand Social Security spousal benefits before making a big life decision. My boyfriend (63) currently receives SSDI of about $1,675 monthly. I'm 65 and don't get any Social Security benefits myself - my only income is alimony from my ex. If we decide to get married, would I qualify for any spousal benefits based on his SSDI record? Or would marriage actually hurt us financially? I've tried calling the local SSA office but can't get through to anyone who can explain this clearly. Really appreciate any insights!
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Vanessa Chang
Yes, you might qualify for spousal benefits based on his SSDI record. Since you're already at your Full Retirement Age (FRA), you could potentially receive up to 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). However, there are several factors to consider: 1. If you've earned Social Security benefits on your own record, SSA will pay that amount first, and if your spousal benefit would be higher, you'd get the difference to reach that higher amount. 2. Since your only income is alimony, it sounds like you may not have enough work credits for your own benefit, so the spousal benefit could be your primary option. 3. Be aware that marriage could affect your alimony payments - many divorce agreements terminate alimony upon remarriage, so you need to check your divorce decree. I'd recommend setting up an appointment with SSA to discuss your specific situation before making any decisions.
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Noah Irving
•Thank you! I didn't realize I could get up to 50% of his benefit. You're right that I don't have enough work credits for my own Social Security - I was a stay-at-home mom for most of my life. And yes, my alimony does stop if I remarry, which is why I'm trying to figure out if the spousal benefits would help make up for that loss. I'll definitely try to talk to someone at SSA before deciding.
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Madison King
be careful!! my sister got married and lost ALL her alimony and the ss benefits weren't even close to what she was getting before. check the math carefully!!
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Noah Irving
•Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. Did your sister also marry someone on disability? I'm trying to figure out if 50% of his benefit would be enough to offset losing my alimony.
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Madison King
•no her husband was on regular retirement not dissability. but she lost like $1200 in alimony and only got like $800 from ss... big mistake financially but she says shes happier now at least lol
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Julian Paolo
I was in the EXACT same situation 2 years ago!!! Married my boyfriend who was on SSDI and I had been getting alimony. The problem isn't just that your alimony stops - which WILL happen the moment you say "I do" - but the math rarely works out in your favor. If he gets $1,675, the MOST you could get is around $837 (that's the 50%). But WAIT - Social Security doesn't just give you that automatically. They take into account your total household income after marriage and it affects benefits. TRUST ME when I say this - I spent WEEKS trying to get someone at SSA to talk to me. Impossible!!! Phone lines always busy, office appts backed up for months. By the time I finally talked to someone, we were already married and I had ALREADY lost my alimony. DO NOT MAKE MY MISTAKE!!!!
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Noah Irving
•Oh my goodness, thank you for the warning! My alimony is $1,950 per month, so losing that and only getting $837 would be a financial disaster for us. Were you able to qualify for anything else to make up the difference? This is really concerning.
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Julian Paolo
•No, nothing else! We actually had to downsize our home because we couldn't afford the mortgage anymore. The SSDI stayed the same for him but combining households wasn't enough to make up for what I lost. If your alimony is $1,950, you'd be losing over $1,100 a month! Unless your boyfriend has substantial other income or assets, I'd seriously reconsider or at least talk to a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning.
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Ella Knight
There's a lot of confusion here that needs clarification: 1. SSDI converts to retirement benefits when your boyfriend reaches FRA (probably around 66-67 depending on birth year). 2. Spousal benefits based on SSDI work the same as those based on retirement benefits - up to 50% at your FRA. 3. Your household income doesn't directly impact the amount of spousal benefits - that's not how the calculation works. What matters is your own work record and benefit eligibility. 4. Since you're already past FRA, you could apply for spousal benefits immediately after marriage without reduction. Yes, losing alimony is a consideration, but the comparison isn't just alimony vs. spousal benefits. It should be: alimony vs. spousal benefits PLUS the financial benefits of combining households (shared housing costs, insurance, etc.). I suggest making an appointment with SSA to get an official calculation based on your specific situation.
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Julian Paolo
•I stand by what I said. Maybe on paper the rules work like you describe, but in REALITY it doesn't always work out that way. And yes, the household income absolutely DOES matter because it changes what other benefits you might qualify for like Medicare premium assistance, property tax breaks, etc. When we combined households, we lost severel of those benefits which made things worse! Plus the SSA miscalculated my benefit twice before getting it right which took MONTHS to fix.
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Ella Knight
•You're conflating different programs. Social Security retirement and disability benefits are not means-tested - household income doesn't affect the benefit amount. However, you're correct that other programs like Medicare Savings Programs, Extra Help for prescriptions, and property tax assistance are income-based and could be affected. I think this highlights why the original poster needs professional guidance specific to her situation rather than generalizing from others' experiences.
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William Schwarz
I tried for WEEKS to get through to Social Security to ask almost this exact question when my girlfriend and I were thinking about getting married (I'm on SSDI too). Impossible to reach anyone! I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Worth every penny because I finally got specific answers for our situation instead of guessing. The agent actually ran the numbers for us based on both our records. Much better than trying random advice from the internet for something this important!
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Noah Irving
•Thank you! I never heard of this service but I'm definitely going to check it out. You're right that I need specific answers for my situation, not general advice. Were you happy with the information you got from the agent they connected you with?
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William Schwarz
•Yes definitely! The SSA agent was able to look up both our records and give us the exact benefit amounts that would apply after marriage. Turned out in our case getting married actually helped us financially, but it's different for everyone. Main thing is I got concrete numbers from an official source instead of guessing.
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Lauren Johnson
The SSA rules about marriage and benefits are RIDICULOUS!!! My brother lost over $300/month in benefits when he got married, and he had no idea it would happen. The government basically PUNISHES people for getting married. Why should your benefits change just because you signed some legal paper? It's not like either of you suddenly has more money just because you got married! This whole system is DESIGNED to confuse people and keep them from getting their full benefits. They make the rules so complicated that nobody understands them, and then they make it IMPOSSIBLE to talk to anyone who can explain them clearly. If I were you, I'd look into whether a domestic partnership might give you the legal protections you want WITHOUT triggering the marriage penalties in the Social Security system. The rules vary by state though.
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Noah Irving
•I hadn't even thought about a domestic partnership as an option. That's an interesting suggestion that might let us have some legal protections without me losing my alimony. I'll have to look into what our state allows. And yes, these rules are incredibly frustrating and confusing!
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Vanessa Chang
A few more points to consider before you make your decision: 1. If your boyfriend's SSDI is based on a relatively high earnings history, and your alimony is based on a lower income level, getting married might make financial sense. But based on the numbers you've shared ($1,675 SSDI, $1,950 alimony), it appears marriage would create a financial shortfall. 2. Look beyond just monthly cash flow. Marriage affects inheritance rights, medical decision-making, tax filing status, and healthcare access. Some of these could provide significant financial or practical benefits. 3. Some divorces have provisions for partial continuation of alimony even after remarriage - check your divorce decree carefully. 4. Remember that your spousal benefit would increase if your boyfriend waits until his Full Retirement Age to convert from SSDI to retirement benefits. This is a complex decision that merges financial considerations with emotional ones. I'd recommend consulting both an SSA representative and a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning before making your decision.
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Noah Irving
•Thank you for these additional points. I think you're right that I need professional advice. Based on everyone's comments, it seems the pure monthly income would be less if we marry, but there might be other financial and legal benefits that could offset that somewhat. I'm going to try to speak with both SSA and a financial advisor before we make any decisions.
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Jade Santiago
My cousin was in a similar situation last year. She ended up just living with her boyfriend without getting legally married. They had a commitment ceremony with family and friends, exchange rings, call each other husband and wife, but legally they're single. That way she keeps her alimony and there's no negative impact on his benefits. They've been happy with this arrangement. Obviously there are some legal protections you don't get this way, but they took care of most of that with wills, advanced directives, and power of attorney documents. Something to consider if the numbers don't work out for a legal marriage.
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Jade Santiago
•Oh and forgot to mention - you should also check what happens to his SSDI if you get married. Some types of disability benefits can be reduced based on household income after marriage. You both need to understand all the possible impacts.
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Ella Knight
•Just to clarify - SSDI benefits (Social Security Disability Insurance) are NOT affected by marriage or household income. You're thinking of SSI (Supplemental Security Income), which is means-tested and can be reduced when you marry. Based on the benefit amount mentioned ($1,675), the boyfriend is almost certainly on SSDI, not SSI, as SSI maxes out around $900.
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