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After seeing your responses, I want to add: when you call back, specifically request to speak with someone in the SSI department who specializes in childhood disability claims. General representatives sometimes don't have specific training on these cases. For the expedited installment exception (to get the full backpay for medical equipment), you'll need: 1. Form SSA-5002 completed 2. Doctor's letter specifically stating what equipment is needed and why it's urgent 3. Cost estimate/invoice for the equipment 4. Statement explaining the hardship of waiting for installments Keep detailed notes of all conversations including the date, time, representative's name, and what was discussed. This documentation will be invaluable if there are further issues.

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This is incredibly helpful! I'll get these documents together right away. Our pediatric specialist already told me she'd write whatever letter we need, so I'll ask her to be very specific about the urgency. Thank you so much for this detailed guidance.

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this confusion - unfortunately it's way too common with SSA representatives giving incorrect information. Just wanted to add that when you do call back, you might also want to ask about the "presumptive disability" rules that can sometimes apply to children. If your granddaughter's condition qualifies, you might be entitled to benefits going back even further than the application date (up to 3 months prior). Also, regarding the medical equipment - document EVERYTHING about what she needs and why the delays are harmful to her development/health. The more medical documentation you have showing urgency, the stronger your case for getting the full backpay amount upfront rather than in installments. Some conditions qualify for "compassionate allowances" which can expedite the whole process. You're doing an amazing job advocating for her - don't let one misinformed rep discourage you from getting what she's entitled to!

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Thank you so much for mentioning presumptive disability! I hadn't heard of that before. My granddaughter has cerebral palsy with significant mobility issues, so I wonder if that might qualify. I'll definitely ask about this when I call back. The compassionate allowances thing sounds important too - wish someone had told me about these options months ago! It's frustrating how much you have to learn on your own when you're already stressed about everything else. Really appreciate everyone's help here - this community has been more helpful than the actual SSA office!

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I'm dealing with this exact same frustrating situation right now! Filed my retirement application two weeks ago and was completely blindsided when they told me about the payment delay. Like so many others here, I had no clue about the month-behind payment system and was counting on that income to start right away. What's really frustrating is that I spent months researching Social Security benefits online, read through tons of their materials, and this critical timing information was nowhere to be found in anything that was easy to access. You'd think something that affects literally every single retirement applicant would be explained more clearly! I've had to completely rearrange my budget for the next 6 weeks and dip into my emergency fund to cover the gap. At least reading through everyone's experiences here makes me feel less alone in being caught off guard by this. Definitely going to set up my online account to track the payment status and get that exact payment date. Thanks to everyone for sharing - it's so helpful to know this is completely normal even though it feels anything but normal when you're going through it!

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I completely feel your frustration! I'm actually new to this community and considering filing for my own retirement benefits soon, so reading through this entire thread has been both eye-opening and concerning. It's absolutely mind-boggling that SSA doesn't make this payment timeline crystal clear from the very beginning - this seems like basic information that should be highlighted in bold on their website and mentioned in every conversation about applying. The fact that so many people are getting surprised by this same issue shows there's a real communication problem on their end. I'm definitely going to factor this 6-week gap into my own planning when I file, and I'll make sure to ask very specific questions about payment dates during my application. It's really helpful that you and others are sharing these experiences because it's clearly filling an information gap that SSA should be addressing themselves. Hope your first payment arrives exactly when scheduled!

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I'm so glad I found this discussion! I'm planning to file for my retirement benefits in the next couple of months and had no idea about this payment delay situation. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly valuable - it's clear that SSA really needs to do a better job communicating this timeline upfront. The fact that so many people are getting caught off guard by the same issue shows this is a systemic communication problem, not just individual confusion. I'm definitely going to build this 6-week gap into my retirement budget planning now. Does anyone have tips on the best questions to ask during the application call to make sure I get all the timing details straight? I want to go in fully prepared so I don't end up scrambling like some of you had to. Thanks for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world information that should be easily available but apparently isn't!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also relatively new here but have been lurking and learning so much from everyone's experiences. Based on what I've read through this thread, I'd suggest asking these key questions during your application call: 1) What specific date will my first payment arrive based on my birth date? 2) Can you confirm my direct deposit information is set up correctly? 3) Will I receive any written confirmation of my payment schedule? 4) Is there anything else about the payment timeline I should know? It's really smart that you're planning ahead - I wish more people had access to these real experiences before filing. The community here has been incredibly helpful in filling the information gaps that SSA really should be addressing themselves!

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One additional point that might be helpful - if you're concerned about being near a bend point, you can actually estimate the impact of your additional earnings before the year ends. Log into your my Social Security account and look at your earnings record to see what your lowest earning year is among your highest 35 years. If your 2025 total earnings (including the $42k from July-December) would be higher than that lowest year when adjusted for wage inflation, then you'll definitely see a benefit increase. The Social Security Administration has bend point calculators available, though they can be a bit complex to use. But given that you're specifically mentioning being near a bend point, that extra $42k could potentially push you into a higher benefit calculation tier, which would be even more beneficial than a simple year replacement.

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This is really valuable advice about checking the earnings record! I hadn't thought about looking at my lowest earning year to estimate the potential impact. I'll definitely log into my Social Security account and run through that comparison. The bend point consideration is exactly what's been weighing on my mind - I suspect I might be right at the edge where that additional $42k could make a more significant difference than just a simple year replacement. Thanks for the practical steps to figure this out before the year ends!

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I just wanted to add one more practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation. Since you're planning to file in June but continue working through December, make sure to keep detailed records of your monthly earnings after you start receiving benefits. While the recalculation happens automatically, having your own records can be helpful if you need to follow up with SSA or if there are any discrepancies in their calculations. Also, don't be surprised if you don't see the benefit increase right away - from what I've experienced and read here, it typically takes until the following spring for the adjustments to show up in your payments. The wait can be nerve-wracking, but it's just part of their standard processing timeline. Your situation sounds very similar to mine from a few years ago, and it definitely worked out well in the end!

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Social Security Survivor Benefits after WEP/GPO Fairness Act - Can I get both deceased and disabled spouse benefits?

After 37 years of confusion with Social Security, I'm hoping someone can help me understand my options with the new WEP/GPO Fairness Act! My situation: - Lost my first husband in 1985 when I was 29, left with a 3-year-old son - Worked for county government my entire career (no SS withholding) - Retired in 2019 with my government pension - Applied for survivor benefits from first husband in 2019, was approved but got $0 due to GPO - First husband's benefit was calculated at approximately $1,350/month (he died young) - Remarried at age 61 to my current husband - Current husband became disabled in 2022 and receives SSDI of about $1,750/month With the WEP/GPO Fairness Act signed, I understand I'm now eligible for benefits, but I have so many questions: 1) When I get my first husband's survivor benefits, will they include all the COLAs since my 2019 application? They approved me back then but I got $0 due to GPO. 2) Since my current husband is on SSDI, am I eligible for spousal benefits on his record instead? Would that be 50% of his amount? 3) Can I choose whichever is higher between my deceased husband's survivor benefit and my disabled husband's spousal benefit? I called SSA but they said even employees don't have clear guidance until March. The rep suggested not applying for current spouse benefits yet as it might "confuse things." So confused and don't want to mess anything up!

To answer your follow-up question about documentation - yes, you should also include proof of your current marriage even if you're taking widow's benefits from your first husband. Here's why: SSA needs to verify that you remarried after age 60, which preserves your eligibility for widow's benefits. Without proof of when your current marriage occurred, they might incorrectly assume you're ineligible for the first husband's benefits. This is especially important in cases involving both GPO and multiple potential benefit sources. The more complete your documentation is upfront, the less likely you'll face delays or incorrect determinations.

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Thank you! That makes perfect sense. I'll make sure to include my current marriage certificate as well. Better to provide too much documentation than not enough and face delays. I really appreciate everyone's help with navigating this complicated situation!

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I'm in a similar boat with the GPO mess! Worked for the state for 30 years and couldn't get my late husband's benefits even though I paid into SS for 15 years before switching to government work. One thing I learned from my local SSA office visit last week - they said to NOT file any new applications right now because it could mess up your existing file. Since you already have an approved application from 2019, you're in good shape. They'll just need to recalculate your benefit amount without the GPO offset. The agent told me they're expecting to start processing GPO adjustments in batches starting around May, with payments potentially beginning in June. She said people with existing approved applications (like you) will likely be processed first before new applicants. Also heard from someone at my retirement group that the retroactive payments might go back to January 2025 when the law took effect, but that's not confirmed yet. Cross your fingers! Hang in there - we've waited this long, we can wait a few more months to finally get what we deserve!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear that existing approved applications like ours might be processed first. I was worried I'd have to start the whole process over again. The May/June timeline you mentioned matches what a few other people have said, so that seems like a reasonable expectation. And if there really are retroactive payments back to January, that would be amazing after all these years of getting nothing due to GPO. I'll definitely hold off on filing anything new and just wait for them to process the recalculation. Appreciate you sharing what you learned from your SSA visit!

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Just to add one more important consideration - taxes. Survivor benefits are potentially taxable depending on your other income. If your provisional income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable. With your strategy of claiming survivor benefits now and switching to your own at 70, consider how your income might change over time and whether it makes sense to have additional tax withholding from your benefit payments. Form W-4V allows you to request voluntary withholding from Social Security.

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I hadn't even thought about the tax implications. I'm still working part-time and have some investment income as well. I'll definitely ask about Form W-4V when I go in to apply. Thank you for bringing this up!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Yara. What you're going through is unfortunately very common - the SSA system is complex and they don't do a great job of proactive outreach to eligible survivors. A few additional points that might help: **On retroactive benefits:** When you apply, specifically ask about "protective filing date" - sometimes if you made any inquiry about survivor benefits (even a phone call where you asked questions), that date can be used to extend your retroactive period slightly beyond the standard 6 months. **Documentation to bring:** In addition to what others mentioned, bring your husband's most recent Social Security statement if you have it, and any Form 1099-SSA from his benefits. This will help them calculate your exact benefit amount more quickly. **Local office vs phone:** Definitely go in person if possible. The representatives there have more tools and authority to resolve complex situations. Call ahead to make an appointment - walk-ins can mean very long waits. **One thing to verify:** Make sure to confirm whether your survivor benefit will be reduced for early claiming. Since you're past 60, you might be eligible for an unreduced survivor benefit depending on your full retirement age. The strategy of taking survivor benefits now and switching to your own at 70 is solid if your projected age-70 benefit will be higher. Don't let anyone pressure you into claiming your own benefits early - those delayed retirement credits are valuable! You've got this. It's overwhelming now, but once you get through the application process, you'll have clarity on your situation.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive advice, Gavin! The "protective filing date" concept is completely new to me - I did call SSA back in February to ask some general questions about survivor benefits, so I'll definitely mention that when I apply. I'm also relieved to hear that going in person is the better approach. I was dreading more phone calls after my experiences so far. I'll call my local office tomorrow to schedule an appointment and start gathering all the documentation you and others have mentioned. One quick question - you mentioned verifying if my survivor benefit will be reduced for early claiming. Since I'm 60 now, would I be getting the full survivor benefit or is there still a reduction at this age? I want to make sure I understand what to expect before I go in. Again, thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed guidance. This community has been incredibly helpful during a really difficult time.

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