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Been getting SSDI for 6 years now (after a bad car accident) and I'm approaching FRA next January. I understand my disability converts automatically to retirement benefits, and the amount stays the same. What I'm confused about is how this affects filing status for other benefits. My husband makes good money and will have a much higher SS benefit than mine when he retires in 3 years. I've read conflicting things about whether I'm considered "officially filing" for retirement at my FRA conversion. If I'm eligible for a spousal benefit top-up later when my husband files, will I get the full 50% spousal benefit? Or will it be reduced since I was on SSDI early? Basically - does the SSDI early start penalize me when it comes to spousal benefits after FRA? The local office gave me a confusing answer and I'm trying to plan our retirement budget.
I started collecting Social Security retirement benefits last November while still working full-time (I'm 68 now). I've been trying to figure out how to handle federal taxes on my SS benefits, but it's been a nightmare getting answers! Called SSA first and they just bounced me to the IRS. Then IRS transferred me around THREE different times before disconnecting me completely. So frustrating! I decided to just have my employer take an additional $200 out of each paycheck for federal taxes starting in August 2025. My question is: Will this extra withholding be considered payment toward any quarterly estimated taxes I might owe on my Social Security benefits? Or am I going to get hit with some penalty at tax time for not making official "quarterly payments"? I'm worried because I've heard you're supposed to pay taxes on SS benefits throughout the year, not just at filing time. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Any advice would be really appreciated!
I went through this exact same situation last year when I turned 67 and started collecting SS while still working! The frustration with getting clear answers from both SSA and IRS is so real - I must have spent 6 hours on hold between the two agencies. What you're doing with the extra $200 withholding is perfect. I did something similar and had no issues at tax time. The key thing I learned is that as long as your total withholding (regular + extra) covers either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax, you're golden. No penalties, no quarterly payment forms needed. One tip: keep good records of when you started the extra withholding and how much. It helped me when I filed my taxes to have everything documented. Also, don't let anyone scare you into thinking you need to do BOTH withholding AND quarterly payments - that's overkill and completely unnecessary. You're handling this the smart way. The extra withholding from your paycheck is actually better than quarterly payments because the IRS treats it as if you paid evenly throughout the year, even though you didn't start until August.
I'm going through something very similar right now - started collecting SS at 66 while still working part-time. The runaround between SSA and IRS is absolutely maddening! I spent an entire afternoon being transferred back and forth with no real answers. Your approach with the extra $200 withholding is exactly what I ended up doing too after getting nowhere with the phone calls. What really helped me was using the IRS withholding calculator on their website (irs.gov) - you can plug in your expected SS benefits, work income, and current withholding to see if you're on track. Just make sure to account for the fact that your SS benefits will likely be 85% taxable given that you're working full-time. I was surprised how much that added to my tax bill! But the good news is that extra withholding from your paycheck absolutely counts toward any estimated tax requirements. You're definitely on the right path and shouldn't need to mess with quarterly payment forms on top of what you're already doing.
Has anyone else been expecting their Delayed Retirement Credits to kick in for 2025 and NOT gotten them in their February payment? I turned 70 last October and delayed claiming benefits past my Full Retirement Age (66 years, 8 months). I should be getting an 8% increase per year for the ~3.5 years I delayed (about 28% total increase). My January payment was the regular amount, which I expected, but according to everything I've read, the DRCs should have been included in my February payment. My February deposit hit my account yesterday - still the same amount as before! Even more frustrating, my MySocialSecurity account still shows the old benefit amount with no indication of the pending increase. I'm hoping SSA is just running behind on processing these, but I'm worried I'll need to spend weeks fighting to get this fixed. Anyone else in the same boat or have experience with this?
Update: just got off the phone with SSA (finally!!). They said there's a MAJOR backlog of DRC processing affecting thousands of people who turned 70 in the last half of 2024. The rep said their systems are giving priority to people with lower benefit amounts first (supposedly to help those who need it most) and working up to higher benefit amounts. So apparently if your regular benefit is on the higher end, you might wait longer! So ridiculous.
Thanks for sharing what you learned! That's interesting about the prioritization by benefit amount. I wonder where the cutoff is? My FRA benefit is about $2,700 so I'm probably in the higher tier. Guess I'll be waiting a while...
This prioritization approach is correct. For the current backlog, they're processing in batches: first batch is for PIA amounts under $1,500, second batch is $1,500-2,500, and the final batch is for PIAs over $2,500. With your FRA amount at $2,700, you'd be in the final batch scheduled for processing in April.
I'm in exactly the same situation! Turned 70 in September 2024 and have been waiting for my DRCs since February. My FRA benefit amount puts me in that higher tier that @Aisha Abdullah mentioned, so I guess I'm stuck waiting until April. It's really frustrating that they don't communicate these delays better - I've been checking my MySocialSecurity account daily wondering if something went wrong with my application. At least now I know it's a widespread issue and not just me. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, it really helps to know what to expect!
I'm planning to file for Social Security retirement benefits next month, but I'm worried about how my previous income might affect my monthly payments. I understand that my 2023-2024 income will impact my Medicare IRMAA surcharges, but I'm confused about whether those same high-income years will actually reduce my monthly Social Security benefit amount too. For context, I had unusually high income the past two years (around $185,000 annually) from a consulting contract before fully retiring last month. If I file for benefits now at 66 (my FRA), will SSA actually reduce my monthly payment amount because of this recent high income? Or does previous income only affect IRMAA and not the actual SS benefit amount? I'd rather wait to file if my payments would be "slashed" because of my recent earnings. My financial advisor mentioned something about this but wasn't clear. Any insights from those who've been through this?
Just to add one more important detail - once you reach FRA, the monthly benefit amount is fixed (except for COLA increases) regardless of any work you might do. So even if you decide to go back to work part-time or as a consultant, your SS benefit won't be reduced no matter how much you earn. Your Medicare IRMAA might go up, but that's calculated separately from your SS benefit.
Just want to echo what others have said - you're absolutely safe to file at your FRA! I was in a similar situation last year with high consulting income right before retirement and was terrified SSA would penalize me somehow. Turns out those high-earning years actually boosted my monthly benefit since they replaced some lower-earning years from the 1990s in my calculation. The only "penalty" I face is higher Medicare premiums due to IRMAA, but that's completely separate from the Social Security benefit amount. Your financial advisor should have been clearer about this distinction. IRMAA affects Medicare premiums, not SS benefits. Since you're at FRA and done working, there's literally no downside to filing now. Don't delay unnecessarily like I almost did!
I'm planning my retirement and trying to understand how working affects my Social Security benefits. My plan is to keep working full-time (40+ hours weekly) until I'm 70, making around $70,000 annually with full employer benefits. I'm single, and I'm wondering if it makes financial sense to claim SS at my full retirement age while continuing to work, or if I should wait until 70 for the maximum benefit? Specific questions: 1. If I start collecting at my FRA, will my earnings ($70K/year) reduce my SS payments? 2. Is there a formula to calculate whether taking benefits at FRA versus waiting until 70 is more advantageous? 3. Will I even get any SS money if I'm earning that much? I know I should talk to SSA directly, but I'd appreciate any insights from those who've been in similar situations before I make that call. Thanks!
i think u should just take the $$ when u can get it!! who knows what tomorrow brings right? my cousin waited to claim and then passed at 69 never got a penny!! so sad
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a very similar situation - turning 67 next year and planning to keep working. One additional consideration I'd add is to check if your employer offers any phased retirement options or flexible arrangements once you hit FRA. Some companies are more willing to negotiate reduced hours or consulting arrangements for experienced workers, which could give you the best of both worlds - some income, lower tax burden, and time to enjoy retirement while still getting those delayed retirement credits until 70. Also, don't forget that Medicare kicks in at 65 regardless of when you claim Social Security, so factor those premium costs into your planning if you're not already on Medicare!
Evelyn Rivera
I'm curious - did your SSDI lawyer ever explain any of this to you? When I went through the SSDI process, my attorney never mentioned anything about how it would affect future retirement benefits. Seems like something they should cover.
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Lilah Brooks
AuthorHonestly, no. My lawyer was focused entirely on getting the initial SSDI approval. At that time (6 years ago), retirement seemed so far away that we never discussed the conversion or how it would affect spousal benefits. I wish we had talked about the whole picture!
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Christian Burns
As someone who's been through a similar situation, I can confirm what others have said - the SSDI to retirement conversion at FRA does NOT penalize you for spousal benefits. You'll be treated as filing for retirement at your FRA, not earlier. One tip I'd add: when your husband does file in 3 years and you apply for the spousal benefit, make sure to ask the SSA representative to explain exactly how they calculated your spousal amount. Given that your current benefit is $1,850 and his projected benefit is $3,400, you should be eligible for about $1,700 - $1,850 = $850 additional per month (50% of $3,400 = $1,700, minus your own benefit). Also, keep good records of your SSDI start date and FRA conversion. Some representatives aren't familiar with disability conversions and might initially make errors. Having your documentation ready can save you headaches later.
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