Social Security earnings limit confusion - will January paycheck from old job reduce my new widower benefits?
I'm starting to receive Social Security widower benefits this month (January 2025), but I'm confused about how the earnings test works with my final paychecks. My previous employer is paying me in January for hours I worked in December 2024 (about $3,900) plus my final 5 days in January 2025 (about $1,200). Does this combined amount count against the monthly earnings limit for January? Or am I now subject to the annual limit since I'm officially retired? If I exceed the limit for January, should I ask SSA to postpone my benefits start date to February to avoid any reduction? And if my benefit gets reduced, is that a permanent cut or just for this month? The SSA website is so confusing about how they count earnings when you first retire!
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Javier Morales
I went through this exact scenario when i started my survivor benefits! The SSA only counts your EARNED income in the month you ACTUALLY PERFORMED THE WORK. So your December earnings don't count against January's limit even though you got paid in January. Only the 5 days you worked in January count toward January's limit. However if you're over the monthly limit for January ($1,840 i think?) then yes your benefit could be reduced. The good news is it's not permanent!!! When I called about this they explained the reduction only applies in months you exceed the limit.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Thank you so much! So if I'm understanding correctly, only my $1,200 for January work counts toward January's limit, not the December work that got paid in January? That's a huge relief if true. Do you happen to know if they reduce the benefit by a percentage or dollar-for-dollar?
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Emma Anderson
The previous answer is almost correct, but there are some important nuances to understand about the retirement earnings test (RET): 1. For the first year you claim benefits, SSA uses a monthly earnings test rather than annual. In your case, only earnings from work performed in January 2025 count toward January's limit. 2. For 2025, the monthly exempt amount is $1,840 if you're under Full Retirement Age (FRA). If you earned $1,200 for work performed in January, you're under the limit and no benefits will be withheld. 3. If you exceed the monthly limit, SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. 4. After your first year on benefits, SSA switches to an annual test, where it doesn't matter which months you earned the money. 5. Any reduction is not permanent. Once you reach FRA, the earnings test no longer applies, and your benefit will be recalculated to give credit for months when benefits were withheld.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you! So I won't need to postpone my benefits since my January work earnings are below $1,840. And I'm glad to hear the deductions aren't permanent. One last question: after this first year, does SSA automatically switch me to the annual test, or do I need to contact them about that?
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Malik Thompson
Let me add some practical advice: be VERY careful with documenting exactly when you performed work vs when you got paid. Keep copies of your final timesheet showing December vs January work days. If you get a W-2 that combines both months, write a letter to your file explaining the breakdown. SSA often makes mistakes with the earnings test because they sometimes just look at when the money was paid rather than when it was earned (which is what actually matters). If you want absolute peace of mind, you could call SSA directly to explain your situation and get confirmation about how they'll handle it. Unfortunately getting through to them can take hours of waiting.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Getting through to SSA was a nightmare when I had an earnings test issue last year! After sitting on hold for 3+ hours twice and getting disconnected, I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in about 20 minutes. Saved me so much frustration. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - totally worth it for complicated issues like earnings limits where you need to speak with an actual person.
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CosmicVoyager
my neighbor had something like this happen and SSA took back money from her!!! they said she was over the limit but she wasn't, it was a whole mess. took her 6 months to fix. make sure you keep ALL your paystubs and timesheets!
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Oh no, that sounds awful! I'll definitely hang onto all my documentation. Did your neighbor eventually get her full benefits restored?
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Ravi Kapoor
Is this the same thing as the SSI limit? I get SSI and they count my income differently I think.
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Emma Anderson
•No, SSI (Supplemental Security Income) has completely different income rules than retirement or survivors benefits. SSI counts income in the month received, regardless of when it was earned, and has different exclusions and thresholds. The earnings test discussed here only applies to retirement, survivors, and disability insurance benefits (RSDI) before full retirement age.
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Freya Nielsen
The answer about the earnings test is correct but I want to clarify something important that people often miss: if you're receiving widower benefits and you're below your FRA, you should be very careful about the earnings test. The test applies to ALL benefits, not just retirement. Many people don't realize this and end up with unexpected reductions. Also, I highly recommend checking your my Social Security account online after you start receiving benefits to make sure they processed everything correctly. You can see exactly what they recorded for your earnings and benefit amount.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Thank you for the reminder about checking my account online. I didn't realize the widower benefits were subject to the same earnings test as regular retirement benefits, but it makes sense. I'm definitely under FRA (I'm 62), so I'll need to be careful about my earnings going forward.
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Javier Morales
just wanted to add that if u do go over the limit at some point, they don't immediately reduce your check. they usually do it later after they process your tax return info. so don't panic if u go over and dont see a change right away. my brothers check got reduced almost a year after he went over the limit!
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Wow, a year later? That would be a nasty surprise! I'll definitely stay under the limit to avoid dealing with that. Thanks for the warning.
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Emma Anderson
One final point about the monthly test versus annual test: After your first year on benefits, Social Security will automatically switch you to the annual test. You don't need to contact them for this change. So in 2025, they'll use the monthly test, and in 2026, they'll automatically use the annual test. For 2025, as long as you stay under $1,840 in January, you should be fine. For the rest of 2025, if you've fully retired, you won't have any earnings to worry about anyway. But if you do any part-time work later in 2025, you'll need to stay under the monthly limit for any month you work.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Perfect explanation - thank you! I was planning to fully retire, but it's good to know how the monthly test works just in case I pick up a little part-time work later this year. I really appreciate everyone's help with this confusing topic!
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