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Fatima Al-Qasimi

Social Security survivor benefits with January earnings over monthly limit - will I be penalized?

I'm turning 60 on January 30th and will receive my first survivor benefit payment from my late husband's record on February 12th. I know about the earnings limit ($23,400/year or about $1,950/month for 2025), but I have a question about January. I already earned $4,000 in January before my birthday, which is obviously over the monthly limit. I'm planning to reduce my hours and stay under the $1,950 monthly limit starting February. Will SSA penalize me for the $4,000 I earned in January even though my first check comes in February? Does the earnings test start counting from my birthday, the month I apply, or when I receive my first payment? I'm really confused about this timing issue and don't want to lose benefits. Thanks for any help!

Dylan Cooper

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The earnings test counts for the entire month in which you turn 60, so January's earnings will count against your annual limit. Since $4,000 exceeds the monthly limit of $1,950, you'll likely see a reduction in benefits. However, SSA typically only withholds full months of benefits, so they might withhold your February payment entirely rather than reduce it. The good news is that once you reach your full retirement age (FRA), your benefit will be recalculated to credit you for months where benefits were withheld. So you'll eventually get that money back in the form of a higher monthly benefit when you reach FRA.

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Thank you for explaining! That's disappointing but at least I understand now. So if I'm reading this right, I could potentially lose my entire February payment? Would I at least receive a notice before they withhold it?

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Sofia Ramirez

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Did u apply for survivors already or r u still waiting? my husband passed last yr & i was told I had to wait until my exact birthday before I could even submit paperwork.

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I already applied - did it about 2 weeks before my birthday. The rep told me I could apply up to 3 months before turning 60 for survivor benefits, but the payments wouldn't start until after I turned 60. Maybe the rules changed or someone gave you incorrect info?

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Dmitry Volkov

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I went through this exact situation last year! The earnings limit is BRUTAL when you're working. What nobody told me was that the annual limit applies regardless of when your benefits start. So your January earnings DO count even though you weren't receiving benefits yet. In my case, they withheld 2 FULL MONTHS of payments because I went over by about $3,600 early in the year. They didn't tell me in advance either - just got a letter after the fact saying "we're not paying you for March and April due to excess earnings." SUPER frustrating!

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Oh no, that's exactly what I was afraid of hearing! Did they at least let you know which months would be withheld before it happened? Or did they just suddenly stop sending payments?

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StarSeeker

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The month you turn 60 counts as a full month for the earnings test, even if your birthday is on the last day. Its stupid but thats how they do it. If you made $4000 in January thats $2050 over the limit. They'll probably take back a full month of benefits from you.

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Dmitry Volkov

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And they won't necessarily take it from February either! They might randomly decide to withhold March or April instead. The whole system is confusing as hell.

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Ava Martinez

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To clarify some confusion here: Yes, January earnings count toward the annual earnings test since you turned 60 that month. However, there's an important distinction between the monthly and annual earnings tests. The annual test applies if you'll exceed $23,400 for the entire year. Each $2 over that amount reduces benefits by $1. The monthly test only applies in the first year you receive benefits. Under this test, you can receive full benefits for any month you earn under $1,950 AND don't perform substantial services (generally meaning part-time work). Since you earned $4,000 in January, that month would fail the monthly test. But starting in February, if you truly stay under $1,950 per month AND work part-time, you should receive your full benefit regardless of January's earnings. I suggest calling SSA directly to confirm how they'll handle your specific situation. Unfortunately, reaching a representative can take hours of waiting.

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Miguel Ortiz

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My sister was on hold with SSA for over 2 hrs last month and then got disconnected! The system is completely broken.

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Zainab Omar

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When I dealt with this calling SSA was impossible - hours on hold only to get disconnected. I finally used Claimyr.com and got through in about 15 minutes. They have a service that basically waits on hold for you then calls you when a rep comes on the line. Saved me so much frustration! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU When I did get through, the rep explained that if I stayed under the monthly limit for the rest of the year after starting benefits, they would only count the months I was over. Much better than losing benefits based on annual income.

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Thank you so much for this tip! I tried calling twice last week and got disconnected both times after waiting over an hour. I'll check out that service - at this point I just need to talk to someone who can give me a clear answer about my situation.

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Sofia Ramirez

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guys dont forget if ur working parttime u still gotta report ur wages to ssa every month!!! my cousin didnt do this and got hit with a huge overpayment notice!!!

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Thanks for the reminder! Do you know if there's a specific form for reporting wages or do you just call them monthly?

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Dmitry Volkov

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@Original poster - another thing to watch for is that when SSA says "countable earnings" they ONLY mean gross wages or net self-employment. They don't count investment income, pension payments, rental income, or capital gains toward the earnings test limit. A lot of people don't realize this and report too much income!

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That's really helpful information! I do have some rental income from a small property my husband and I owned, so I'm glad to hear that won't count toward the limit.

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Dylan Cooper

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After reviewing everything more carefully, here's what will likely happen in your case: 1. January counts as a month where you exceeded the limit ($4,000 vs $1,950) 2. If you stay under $1,950 for all remaining months of 2025 AND work part-time, you'll only have January counted against you 3. SSA will likely withhold your February payment (the first one) to account for the January excess 4. Starting March, as long as you stay under the monthly limit, you should receive regular payments But as others have suggested, it's essential to confirm this with SSA directly regarding your specific case.

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Thank you for breaking it down so clearly. This makes a lot of sense. I'll definitely get confirmation from SSA, but this helps me understand what to expect.

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StarSeeker

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EVERYBODY'S SITUATION IS DIFFERENT!! My friend and I both started survivors benefits within a month of each other and SSA treated our earnings completely differently. Don't assume what happened to someone else will happen to you.

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Miguel Ortiz

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This is so true! My sister and I both get SSDI and they calculated our benefits totally differently even though our situations seemed similar. The system feels completely random sometimes.

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