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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add something that might be helpful based on my experience working with families navigating multiple benefit programs. Since you mentioned feeling overwhelmed by all the moving pieces, you might want to consider reaching out to your local Disability Resource Center or Independent Living Center in Kentucky. Many of these organizations have benefits specialists who are specifically trained to help families understand how different programs interact - Social Security, Medicaid waivers, SSDI, etc. They often provide free consultations and can sometimes even attend meetings with you or help you prepare for important phone calls with SSA. What's particularly valuable is that they see these complex situations regularly and may have relationships with local SSA offices that can help streamline the process. Also, since you're dealing with both your retirement timing and your daughter's potential DAC benefits, they might be able to help you think through scenarios you haven't considered yet. I've seen these centers help families avoid costly mistakes by catching important details that might otherwise be overlooked. It's another layer of support that could complement the other excellent resources people have mentioned in this thread!
This is such valuable information about Disability Resource Centers and Independent Living Centers! I had no idea these organizations existed or that they offered benefits consulting specifically for complex situations like mine. The idea of having someone who regularly works with families dealing with multiple benefit programs sounds perfect - they would understand the interactions between Social Security, Medicaid waivers, and SSDI that I'm trying to navigate. I especially appreciate you mentioning that they might be able to attend meetings or help prepare for phone calls with SSA. Given some of the stories in this thread about challenges communicating with SSA representatives, having an advocate who knows the system could make a huge difference. I'm definitely going to search for Kentucky's Disability Resource Centers and Independent Living Centers today. It sounds like they could provide exactly the kind of comprehensive support I need while I'm also exploring the other resources people have mentioned like CSSAs and Area Agencies on Aging. Thank you for adding another excellent option to my toolkit - this community has truly given me a roadmap for getting the help I need to make informed decisions!
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm currently dealing with a somewhat similar situation with my elderly father who receives several different types of benefits, and reading through all these responses has taught me so much about the complexity of Social Security and benefit interactions that I never realized existed. One thing I'd like to add that might be useful - when you're preparing for your consultation with SSA or any of the advisors people have mentioned, consider writing down not just your questions but also a brief summary of your current situation. Include key details like your daughter's current SSDI amount, your expected retirement benefit at different ages, and the monthly amount you receive from the Medicaid waiver program. Having all these numbers organized in one place can help the advisor quickly understand your situation and run more accurate scenarios for you. Also, based on everything I've read here about the importance of timing and coordination between your retirement and your daughter's potential DAC benefits, you might want to ask specifically about "auxiliary benefit" rules when you speak with SSA. These rules govern how family members can collect benefits on each other's records, and understanding them could help you optimize the total benefits your family receives. Thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences and knowledge in this thread - it's been an amazing resource!
I'm 68 and will be turning 70 in November 2026, so I have a bit more time to plan but this thread has been incredibly educational! One aspect I haven't seen discussed much is what happens if you have a Medicare Supplement (Medigap) policy that auto-pays based on when your Medicare Part B premium is due. My Medigap plan currently syncs its billing with my quarterly Medicare payments, so I pay both at the same time. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with how Medigap billing adjusts when Medicare premiums switch to Social Security deductions. Also, I noticed several people mentioned keeping detailed records during the transition. I'm thinking about creating a simple spreadsheet to track: - Medicare payments made directly - SS benefit amounts and deductions - Any refunds received - Communication dates with SSA/Medicare Has anyone found that level of record-keeping to be overkill, or is it really necessary given all the potential timing issues that have been mentioned? The strategic advice about retirement account withdrawals and IRMAA timing is also something I need to factor into my planning. It's amazing how interconnected all these decisions become when you hit 70! Thanks to everyone for sharing such practical, real-world insights. This is the kind of information you just can't get from official government publications.
@Luca Marino Great question about Medigap billing coordination! I went through this transition last year and had a similar setup where my Medigap plan billed quarterly to match my Medicare Part B payments. What happened in my case was that my Medigap insurer automatically adjusted their billing cycle once Medicare switched to SS deductions. They sent me a notice about 30 days after the Medicare transition explaining that my supplement premiums would now be billed monthly instead of quarterly to better align with the new SS deduction schedule. The transition was actually smoother than I expected - no gap in coverage or double billing. But I d'definitely recommend calling your Medigap carrier when you apply for SS benefits to give them a heads up about the upcoming change. Regarding record-keeping, that spreadsheet idea is brilliant and not overkill at all! I wish I had been that organized. I ended up scrambling to reconstruct my payment timeline when there was confusion about a refund. Your tracking categories cover all the key items - I d'maybe add a column for confirmation numbers from phone calls too. Having good documentation really saved me when there was a discrepancy in my refund amount. Being able to show exactly what I had paid and when made resolving the issue much faster. Better to be over-prepared than under-documented with government benefits!
I'm 69 and will be turning 70 in March 2025, so this thread couldn't have come at a better time! Reading through everyone's experiences has really helped clarify what felt like a very confusing process. One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned yet - for those of us who have Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), make sure to coordinate the timing of when you stop contributing to your HSA with your Medicare enrollment. You can't contribute to an HSA once you're enrolled in any part of Medicare, even if you're not paying premiums yet due to employer coverage. I made the mistake of continuing HSA contributions for a few months after enrolling in Medicare Part A (which is automatic when you apply for SS), and now I have to deal with excess contribution penalties. It's a small detail but an expensive one if you miss it! The advice about creating a spreadsheet to track everything is spot on. I've started one already and it's already helping me see potential timing issues I hadn't considered. Also, for anyone worried about the complexity of coordinating all these systems, I found it helpful to think of it in phases: Phase 1 is getting SS started smoothly, Phase 2 is managing the Medicare payment transition, and Phase 3 is monitoring everything for a few months to catch any issues early. Breaking it down made it feel much less overwhelming. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences - this is invaluable information!
@Miguel Alvarez Thank you so much for bringing up the HSA contribution issue! That s'exactly the kind of detail that could easily slip through the cracks during all this planning. I have an HSA through my current employer and hadn t'even thought about the contribution cutoff timing when Medicare enrollment happens. Your phase-based approach to managing this transition is really smart too. It does feel overwhelming when you think about coordinating Social Security, Medicare, potential employer coverage changes, retirement account strategies, and tax implications all at once. Breaking it into phases makes it much more manageable. I m'curious - when you say you continued HSA contributions after Medicare Part A enrollment, was that because you didn t'realize Part A had started, or because the timing of when contributions need to stop wasn t'clear? I want to make sure I don t'fall into the same trap. Also, do you happen to know if there are any implications for using existing HSA funds to pay Medicare premiums once they start getting deducted from Social Security? I assume HSA funds can still be used for qualified medical expenses including Medicare premiums, but I want to double-check that the payment method change doesn t'affect that. This thread has been such a comprehensive education - thank you to everyone for sharing these real-world details that you just don t'get from the official publications!
I'm so sorry you're going through this - I know exactly how overwhelming it feels! I was laid off at 64 just 8 months ago and successfully navigated this same maze of decisions. Here's what worked for me and what I wish I'd known upfront: **Apply for unemployment immediately** - You're entitled to this and it provides crucial breathing room. Don't worry about the severance timing - it won't affect your unemployment eligibility in most states, though they may ask about it. **Severance won't hurt your SS benefits** - This was my biggest worry, but severance is a one-time payment that doesn't count toward the earnings test. Only ongoing wages from actual work count toward that $21,240 annual limit. **Use unemployment as a bridge** - This was the game-changer for me. Instead of rushing into SS filing, I used my 26 weeks of unemployment to let my SS benefit grow. At your age, each month you delay filing increases your benefit by about 0.5-0.7% - permanently! Over 6 months, that's a meaningful increase for the rest of your life. **The spousal benefit consideration is crucial** - Since your husband is younger and likely higher-earning, be very careful about the deemed filing rules. Once you claim your own benefit, you're locked into that decision even for future spousal benefits. **State-specific rules matter** - Most states allow you to collect both unemployment and SS simultaneously, but double-check your state's specific policies. My suggestion: File for unemployment now, then spend the next few months using the SSA calculator to model different claiming scenarios. You have time to make this decision thoughtfully rather than under pressure. You've got this! The initial panic is totally normal, but once you take that first step with unemployment, everything else becomes much clearer.
This is exactly the kind of detailed, practical advice I needed to hear! Thank you so much for breaking it down so clearly. The idea of using unemployment as a bridge to let my SS benefits grow makes perfect sense - I hadn't really thought about the math of how those monthly increases add up over a lifetime, but you're absolutely right that it becomes meaningful money. I'm feeling much less panicked after reading everyone's responses here. I was trying to figure everything out at once and getting overwhelmed, but your step-by-step approach feels much more manageable. File for unemployment first, then use that breathing room to really understand my options with the SSA calculator. The spousal benefit warning is something I definitely need to research more. I keep seeing mentions of these "deemed filing rules" and I clearly don't understand them well enough yet. Since my husband has consistently out-earned me, this could be a really important factor in my decision. Thank you for the encouragement that the initial panic is normal - some days I feel like I'm completely in over my head with all these systems and rules. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who was in this exact situation just 8 months ago and came through it successfully!
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this situation - being laid off at 64 is incredibly stressful, and trying to coordinate all these different benefit systems can feel overwhelming. I went through something very similar when I was unexpectedly laid off at 63. Here's what I learned from my experience: **Start with unemployment immediately** - You're entitled to these benefits and they provide crucial income while you sort out the bigger decisions. Don't stress about the severance timing affecting this. **Your severance won't impact SS benefits** - This was one of my biggest concerns, but severance is considered a one-time payment that doesn't count toward the Social Security earnings test. Only ongoing wages from actual work count toward that $21,240 limit for 2025. **Consider using unemployment as a strategic bridge** - Instead of rushing to file for SS, you could use your unemployment benefits (typically 26 weeks) to delay your SS filing by several months. Each month you wait increases your benefit amount permanently - at your age, that's roughly 0.5-0.7% per month. Over 6 months, that adds up to meaningful money for the rest of your life. **Be very careful about spousal benefits** - Since your husband is younger and has historically earned more, you'll want to understand how the "deemed filing" rules might affect your future spousal benefit options before you claim your own retirement benefit. The most important thing is that you don't have to decide everything at once. Filing for unemployment first gives you breathing room to research your SS options thoroughly using their online calculator. You're going to get through this! Take it one step at a time.
Just wanted to add something that might be helpful - if you're working for your brother's business, make sure you understand whether you'll be classified as an employee or independent contractor. If you're an independent contractor, you'll need to pay self-employment tax on that $1,500/month, which is about 15.3% on top of regular income tax. This doesn't affect the earnings limit calculation, but it will impact your overall tax situation. Also, if you're self-employed, you'll need to report your earnings to SSA using net earnings from self-employment rather than gross income. Just something to keep in mind when planning your finances!
That's a really important point about employee vs contractor status! I hadn't even thought about that distinction. Since I'll be working for my brother's business, I should definitely clarify how I'll be classified before I start. The self-employment tax would be a significant additional cost on top of regular taxes. Do you know if there are specific rules about when family members have to be treated as employees versus contractors?
The IRS has specific rules about family employment that can be tricky. Generally, if you're working in your brother's business and he controls when, where, and how you work, you're likely an employee regardless of family relationship. However, if you have independence in how you complete the work, set your own hours, use your own tools, etc., you might be classified as a contractor. The key factors the IRS looks at include behavioral control, financial control, and the relationship between the parties. I'd recommend having your brother consult with a tax professional or check IRS Publication 15-A to make sure you're classified correctly from the start - misclassification can lead to penalties and back taxes later on.
One more thing to consider - since you're claiming benefits at 63, you'll be receiving a reduced benefit amount (roughly 25-30% less than your full retirement age benefit). Just want to make sure you've factored that into your calculations. The earnings limit rules are the same regardless, but your actual monthly benefit will be permanently reduced compared to waiting until full retirement age. That said, if you need the income now and you're comfortable with the reduction, claiming early can still make sense - especially since you're staying well under the earnings limit with your part-time work plan.
That's a great point about the permanent reduction. I've been weighing that decision for months - taking the reduced benefit now versus waiting until full retirement age. Given my health situation and the fact that I need some income to supplement my part-time work, I think claiming at 63 makes sense for me personally. Plus, it sounds like I can always increase my work hours later if needed without worrying about the earnings limit as long as I stay under $22,320. The peace of mind of having that guaranteed monthly income is worth the reduction to me.
Miles Hammonds
As someone who recently went through this exact process with my adult daughter who has cerebral palsy, I can't stress enough how important it is to be absolutely meticulous with your documentation. We were in a similar situation - she was only getting about $590/month instead of the full benefit. Here's what finally worked for us: 1. We created a detailed monthly expense tracking sheet that included EVERYTHING - mortgage payment, property taxes, homeowners insurance, all utilities (including internet), groceries, household supplies, even basic home maintenance costs. 2. We set up automatic monthly transfers from her account to ours for exactly 1/3 of the total household operating expenses, with very specific memo lines like "Monthly pro-rata household expenses per SSA guidelines." 3. Most importantly, we requested the PMV determination in writing and kept copies of everything we submitted. It took about 3 months for SSA to process the change, but once approved, her benefits increased to the full $943/month and they even issued a small retroactive payment for the difference. The key is patience and persistence. Don't get discouraged if the first caseworker you speak with seems confused about the rules - ask to speak with a supervisor who specializes in ISM determinations. Your son absolutely deserves his full benefits, and with proper documentation, you can make it happen!
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thank you so much for sharing your success story, Miles! It's incredibly encouraging to hear that you were able to get your daughter's benefits increased to the full amount and even received a retroactive payment. The fact that it took 3 months seems totally worth it for that kind of result. Your point about asking for a supervisor who specializes in ISM determinations is really valuable - I hadn't thought about the fact that not all caseworkers might be equally familiar with these specific rules. That could save a lot of time and frustration upfront. I'm definitely going to follow your approach of requesting the PMV determination in writing and keeping copies of everything. Having that paper trail seems crucial for protecting ourselves if there are any disputes later. One question - when you say you included "basic home maintenance costs," what specific things did that cover? I want to make sure I'm not leaving anything out that could legitimately be included in the household operating expenses calculation. Thanks again for taking the time to share what worked for your family. Stories like yours give me confidence that we can navigate this process successfully too!
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Edwards Hugo
I'm going through something very similar with my 24-year-old daughter who has intellectual disabilities. We were stuck at around $615/month for the longest time until I finally figured out we weren't calculating her share correctly. One thing that really helped us was creating a separate checking account specifically for her household expense payments. This made it crystal clear to SSA exactly what money was being used for what purpose, and eliminated any confusion about whether she was actually paying these expenses or just moving money around. Also, don't forget about things like trash/recycling service, basic cable/internet, and even pest control if you have it - these all count as legitimate household operating expenses that should be included in your calculations. The process is definitely frustrating, but once you get it right, the difference in monthly income is life-changing. My daughter went from $615 to the full $943, which gave her so much more independence and dignity. Keep pushing for what your son deserves - you're being an amazing advocate for him!
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KhalilStar
•This is such a smart idea about the separate checking account! That would definitely make the paper trail crystal clear for SSA and eliminate any questions about whether the payments are legitimate. I'm going to look into setting that up right away. Thank you for mentioning trash/recycling and pest control - I definitely wasn't thinking about those as household expenses, but you're absolutely right that they should be included. Every little bit helps when you're trying to get the calculations right. It's so inspiring to hear that your daughter was able to get the full $943 and gain more independence because of it. That's exactly what I'm hoping for with my son - not just the extra money, but the dignity and autonomy that comes with having his proper benefits. The advocacy part is exhausting sometimes, but hearing success stories like yours reminds me why it's so important to keep pushing through the bureaucracy. Thanks for the encouragement and practical advice!
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