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Social Security earnings limit at age 62 - how much can I work without losing benefits?

I'm planning to retire next year at 62 but want to keep working part-time at my daughter's bakery. I know there's some kind of earnings limit before they start taking away your Social Security, but I'm getting conflicting information about how much I can actually make. Some people are saying $20,000 and others are saying it's less? Also, does it matter if I'm working for family vs. a regular employer? I don't want to mess up my benefits but I also need the extra income. Anyone know the exact amount for 2025?

One last point that may help you plan: The earnings test is applied monthly during your first year of retirement. For subsequent years, it's annual. This means in your first year claiming benefits, you could earn more than the monthly equivalent of the annual limit in some months (like before you officially retire) as long as you stay under the monthly limit in the months you're receiving benefits. So if you retire midyear, you might have different calculation for that first year versus subsequent years.

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Great point about the monthly grace year provision! For 2025, the monthly limit would be $1,950 ($23,400 ÷ 12). So in the first year of retirement, you only need to stay below that amount for any month you receive a benefit, regardless of your annual total.

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This is all incredibly helpful! I had no idea about some of these details, especially the monthly grace year provision that Mikayla and Ella mentioned. That could really change my planning since I'm thinking about retiring mid-year anyway. Just to make sure I understand everything correctly: For 2025, the limit is $23,400 annually, but in my first year of claiming benefits I only need to stay under $1,950 per month for the months I'm actually receiving Social Security? And then it switches to the annual calculation after that first year? Also, does anyone know if there are good online calculators that can help figure out the breakeven point between claiming at 62 with reduced benefits vs waiting until full retirement age? I think Savannah made a really good point about doing those calculations before deciding.

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! The monthly grace year provision can be a real game-changer for retirement planning. And for breakeven calculators, the SSA website has an official one at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html that's pretty comprehensive. There are also some good third-party ones like the AARP Social Security Calculator and FidelityViewpoints that let you plug in different scenarios. One thing to keep in mind with the calculators - they usually assume you'll live to average life expectancy, but you mentioned family history concerns earlier. You might want to run the numbers with different life expectancy assumptions to see how that affects the breakeven analysis. Sometimes claiming earlier makes sense even with the earnings test if you're prioritizing getting benefits sooner rather than maximizing lifetime benefits.

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SS retirement application stuck at '2/3 complete' since December - no communication from SSA

I filed for my Social Security retirement benefits back in January for a May 1st start date (my FRA). The application status on mySocialSecurity has been stuck at "2/3 complete" since mid-February. It's now been nearly 3 months with zero progress! I haven't received a single letter, email, or phone call from SSA. I've tried calling the 800 number at least 6 times but either get disconnected or can't stay on hold for 3+ hours due to work commitments. Has anyone else experienced this kind of delay? Is there something I'm missing? Should I be worried that something's wrong with my application? My retirement plans are counting on that first payment coming through on schedule in May.

I'm new to this community but wanted to share that I'm going through almost the exact same situation! Filed my retirement application in late January for a July start date, and it's been stuck at "2/3 complete" for about 6 weeks now with zero communication from SSA. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been both reassuring and eye-opening - I had no idea so many different factors could cause these delays. I worked for the state university system for about 8 years (with SS taxes withheld) and also did some consulting work in Mexico for 6 months back in 2015, so either of those could be triggering the manual review that Isaac explained so well. The complete lack of transparency is incredibly frustrating - you'd think they could at least send an automated message saying "additional review required" instead of leaving us completely in the dark! I'm definitely going to try the Claimyr service that Ruby and others have recommended, and also check my earnings record more carefully for any discrepancies. Thanks especially to Isaac for the insider perspective on what the different statuses actually mean - that kind of real-world knowledge is invaluable when the official SSA resources tell you practically nothing. Will definitely try the multi-pronged approach (Claimyr + secure messaging + congressional contact) that seems to work best based on everyone's success stories. So grateful to have found this community where people actually share useful, actionable advice!

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Welcome to the community, Lena! Your situation with state university employment and consulting work in Mexico definitely sounds like it could be triggering those manual reviews. I'm also relatively new here but have been learning so much from everyone's shared experiences. The Mexico consulting work is particularly interesting since that might involve international income verification or totalization considerations. What strikes me most about all these stories is the pattern of SSA having the information they need but failing to communicate what's missing or what they're waiting for. Your timeline is very similar to mine and several others here - it seems like 6-8 weeks at "2/3 complete" is unfortunately becoming the new normal. The multi-pronged approach really does seem to be the key based on what Anastasia and others have shared. I'd definitely recommend starting with the Claimyr service since so many people have had success with it, and also checking your Message Center regularly in case they do try to communicate (though it sounds like they often don't). Thanks for sharing your experience - it's helpful to see the patterns and know we're all navigating this broken system together!

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I'm new to this community but unfortunately dealing with a very similar situation! Filed my retirement application in early February for a September start date, and it's been stuck at "2/3 complete" for about 5 weeks now with absolutely no communication from SSA. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea there were so many potential triggers for manual reviews. I worked for a federal contractor for several years and also spent 8 months in Australia on a work visa back in 2018, so either of those could be causing my delay. Like everyone else, the complete radio silence from SSA is the most frustrating part. You'd think after decades of technology advancement they could send a simple status update saying "we're reviewing X aspect of your application, estimated completion Y." Isaac's insider knowledge about what actually happens behind the scenes has been invaluable - thank you for taking the time to explain the real reasons applications get stuck! Based on all the success stories here, I'm definitely going to try the Claimyr service that Ruby recommended, send a secure message through the portal, and potentially reach out to my congressman's office if needed. It's both comforting and concerning to see how many of us are in the same boat, but at least this community provides actual actionable solutions instead of the useless "please wait" advice you get everywhere else. Will definitely report back on what works!

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Social Security application stuck on step 2 since December - normal processing time?

I filed my Social Security retirement application online on December 8th for benefits to start March 2025 (first payment expected April 2025). It's been almost 8 weeks now, and my application is STILL showing 'Step 2 of 3' on the MySocialSecurity portal. No movement whatsoever. I'm getting really anxious because I need to make some financial decisions based on when this will be approved. Is this normal processing time? Anyone else experience this kind of delay recently? I'm turning 65 in February and planned everything around getting these benefits started on time.

btw i think FRA is 67 not 65 now so r u taking early benefits at 65? that might be why its taking longer cuz they have to calculate the reduction

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Yes, I'm taking them early. I didn't realize that might make the process take longer. That's good to know!

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To clarify: taking benefits early (before Full Retirement Age) shouldn't significantly impact processing time. The reduction calculations are automated in SSA's systems. However, applications with complications like foreign employment, government pensions (WEP/GPO issues), or earnings limit concerns may take longer to process. Standard early retirement applications should follow similar timeframes to FRA applications.

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed my application in early December for March benefits and it's been stuck on step 2 for weeks. Reading everyone's experiences here is actually really reassuring - it sounds like this is unfortunately just how SSA's system works these days. The consistent theme seems to be that benefits start on time even when the online tracker doesn't update properly. I've been losing sleep over this but now I feel like I can relax a bit and just wait it out. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories!

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Can I submit federal tax withholding form for Social Security before getting verification letter?

I just submitted my retirement application online and my first Social Security payment should arrive in February 2025. I want to have federal taxes withheld right from the start to avoid quarterly estimated tax payments. Do I need to wait until I receive my benefit verification letter before I can submit the voluntary tax withholding request (Form W-4V)? Or can I submit it now that my application is in process? I've heard conflicting information and don't want to miss tax withholding on my first payment. Thanks for any guidance!

Update on my earlier comment - I just remembered that while I did submit my W-4V before getting my verification letter, I had already received confirmation that my application was approved. So that might be the key distinction. You might want to wait until you at least get the approval notification (which usually comes before the verification letter) before submitting the W-4V.

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Thanks for clarifying! That makes sense. I'll wait for the application approval notification at least, then submit the form right away.

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I went through this same situation last year and found that the timing really depends on your specific SSA office. What I ended up doing was calling the national SSA number (1-800-772-1213) and asking them to note in my file that I wanted tax withholding set up as soon as my benefits were approved. Then I mailed my W-4V form with a cover letter referencing that phone call and my application number. When my first payment came through, the withholding was already in place. It might be worth trying this approach - get it documented in your file early, even if the form itself can't be processed until approval.

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Widow's benefit confusion - why isn't my mom getting my dad's full Social Security amount?

I'm completely confused about my mother's survivor benefits and hoping someone can explain this to me. My father passed away in March 2025 after 52 years of marriage to my mom. She's 75 now and has been collecting her own retirement since she turned 67 (her FRA). Dad waited until his full retirement age too before claiming, and his monthly benefit was about $2,900 while mom's was only about $1,700. After we notified SSA of dad's passing, they adjusted mom's payment up to $2,320, which is definitely higher than before but nowhere near what dad was receiving. I've been reading online that widows are supposed to receive their deceased spouse's FULL benefit amount. Did SSA make a mistake here? Mom was counting on having dad's full benefit to maintain her standard of living. Should I call SSA to dispute this or is there something about survivor benefits I'm misunderstanding?

Thank you all so much for your helpful replies! I think I understand now - mom is getting dad's Primary Insurance Amount but not the extra he got for delaying past FRA. Still seems unfair but at least I know SSA didn't make a mistake. I'll explain this to mom so she can adjust her budget accordingly. Really appreciate everyone's insights!

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You're welcome! One more thing to consider - your mother should check if she's eligible for the Lump Sum Death Benefit of $255. It's a small amount but every bit helps. Also, if your father had any uncashed Social Security checks when he passed, she may be entitled to those as well.

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Thanks for the tip about the lump sum benefit. We did receive that already. Mom should be okay financially, it's just that we were planning based on what we thought she'd receive. This has been such a learning experience about how Social Security actually works vs what most people think!

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As others have explained, your mother's benefit is correct. Here's a more detailed breakdown of why the benefit is calculated this way: * Your father's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA): $2,320 (estimated based on your post) * Your father's actual benefit with delayed credits: $2,900 * Your mother's own retirement benefit: $1,700 Since your mother was already at FRA when your father passed away, she's entitled to 100% of his PIA as a survivor benefit. SSA then compares her own benefit ($1,700) to the survivor benefit ($2,320) and pays her the higher amount. Unfortunately, most people misunderstand this calculation. I hope this clarifies why she's receiving $2,320 instead of $2,900.

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wait so ur saying if the husband never actually started getting his benefits but died after FRA the widow would get MORE?? that makes no sense!

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Actually yes, that's exactly right! If someone dies after their FRA but before claiming benefits, the survivor gets the full delayed retirement credits. But if they die after already claiming, the survivor benefit is based on the PIA without the full delayed credits. It's one of those weird Social Security rules that can actually penalize people for claiming their benefits early. Many financial planners don't fully understand this distinction either.

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