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Lola Perez

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I went through a very similar situation about 3 years ago! I was also 66 and still working when I started looking into ex-spouse benefits. One thing that really helped me was requesting a "benefit verification letter" from SSA that shows what my projected benefits would be at different ages (62, FRA, and 70). This let me compare my own benefit projections against the estimated ex-spouse benefit without having to file anything yet. Also, since you mentioned your ex is 68, he's likely already collecting, which makes the process smoother. When I applied, I just needed his full name and Social Security number - SSA handled the rest of the verification internally without involving him at all. The waiting until August 2025 plan that others suggested really is smart. I wish I had been more patient instead of rushing into filing early. Those extra delayed retirement credits can add up to significant money over the long term, especially if you're in good health and expect to live a normal lifespan.

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Ian Armstrong

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know about the benefit verification letter - I had no idea that was something I could request to see projections without actually filing. That sounds like exactly what I need to make an informed decision. And it's reassuring to hear that the process was smooth when your ex was already collecting. I do have his SSN from our old tax records, so that shouldn't be a problem. You're absolutely right about being patient - with retirement so close anyway, it makes sense to wait and do this right rather than rush into something I might regret later.

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Avery Davis

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I'm in a somewhat similar boat - I'm 65 and will hit my FRA next year while still working. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational! I had no idea about the exact FRA timing (66 and 6 months for someone born in 1957) or that benefits could be retroactive to your FRA date. One question I haven't seen addressed - for those of us who have been divorced multiple times, does SSA automatically check all ex-spouses to see which would give the highest benefit? I was married to my first husband for 12 years and my second for 15 years. Both are different ages and had different earning patterns. Do I need to provide information for both ex-husbands, or do they figure out which is better automatically? Also, Makayla, it sounds like you've gotten some really solid advice here about waiting until August 2025. That timeline makes so much sense given your situation!

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As someone who's been following this incredibly informative discussion, I wanted to add my voice to the overwhelming consensus here - Emma, please wait until November for your full retirement age! Reading through all these personal stories from community members who are permanently losing $85-$137+ every month because they filed just a few months early has been both eye-opening and heartbreaking. The fact that this reduction is truly permanent and affects even your future COLA increases (since they're calculated as a percentage of your already-reduced base) makes the long-term financial impact enormous. In your situation, you have several factors working in your favor for waiting: - You're still earning $24K from part-time work, so you're not in desperate need of the SS income - You only have to wait 10 months, which will pass quickly - Your current earnings might even boost your benefit calculation if they're higher than some earlier low-earning years - You'll avoid that 5.6% permanent reduction that could cost you $25,000-$30,000+ over your retirement The wisdom shared in this thread is invaluable. So many members wish someone had explained these consequences to them before they filed early. You're incredibly fortunate to have found this community and gotten this advice BEFORE making an irreversible decision rather than discovering the reduction after the fact. Those 10 months until November will fly by, but that higher monthly benefit will last for the rest of your life. Future you will definitely thank present you for being patient!

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Nathan Kim

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This entire thread has been such an amazing resource! As someone completely new to Social Security planning, I had no idea that filing even a few months before your exact FRA could have such massive long-term consequences. The personal stories shared here about people losing $100+ per month FOREVER really drive home just how important getting the timing right is. Emma, you're in such a fortunate position - you found this community and got this incredible advice before making what could have been a very costly mistake. The math is so clear: wait those 10 months until November and avoid losing potentially $30,000+ over your retirement years. What really struck me is how the reduction affects everything going forward, including your COLA increases. That means the gap between what you'd get filing now versus waiting just keeps growing wider each year. Since you're still working part-time and don't seem to urgently need the Social Security income, those 10 months will pass in no time. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences, especially the difficult ones. This kind of community wisdom is absolutely invaluable for helping people avoid life-changing financial mistakes!

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Emma Wilson

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As a newcomer to this community, I have to say this discussion has been absolutely invaluable! Reading through everyone's experiences really highlights how critical timing is with Social Security benefits. Emma, the advice here is overwhelmingly clear - wait until November for your FRA! The personal stories from members who are permanently losing $85-137+ per month because they filed just a few months early really put the long-term impact in perspective. That 5.6% reduction might seem small initially, but over 20-25 years of retirement, it could easily cost you $25,000-30,000+ in total benefits. Since you're still working part-time and earning $24K annually, you have the financial cushion to wait those 10 months. Plus, your continued earnings might actually increase your benefit calculation if they're replacing lower-earning years from your past. What really struck me from this thread is how the reduction is truly permanent and even affects your COLA increases going forward, since they're calculated as a percentage of your already-reduced base amount. The compounding effect makes the total impact even more significant. You're so fortunate to have found this community and gotten this advice BEFORE making the decision rather than discovering the consequences afterward like some other members shared. Those 10 months will pass quickly, but that higher monthly benefit will last for the rest of your life!

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Zainab Ahmed

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Welcome to the community! As another newcomer who's been following this incredible discussion, I'm amazed by how much wisdom has been shared here. Emma's question has really generated a masterclass in Social Security timing decisions. What strikes me most is how unanimous the advice has been - literally every single person who shared their experience about filing early expressed regret about the permanent reduction. The stories about losing $85-137+ per month forever really drive home the stakes involved. Emma, you're in such an ideal situation to make the smart choice here. You're still working, you don't desperately need the Social Security income right now, and you only have to wait 10 months. When you consider that this decision could affect your finances for the next 20-30 years, those 10 months are nothing! The point about COLA increases being calculated on your already-reduced amount is particularly eye-opening - it means that early filing penalty gets worse over time, not better. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their experiences and help educate those of us who are new to navigating these complex decisions!

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Ellie Kim

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I'm so deeply sorry to hear about your wife's health situation - you're facing something unimaginably difficult, and the way you're thoughtfully planning ahead during such an emotional time shows incredible strength and love. This thread has been such a comprehensive resource, and I wanted to add one small but potentially important detail: when you do apply for survivor benefits, make sure to ask SSA about the "protective filing date." If there are any delays in processing your application or gathering required documents, the protective filing date can ensure your benefits start from the earliest possible date rather than when the application is finally completed. Also, since your wife is currently in hospice care, the hospice team may have dealt with Social Security survivor benefit applications before and could potentially provide guidance on timing or required documentation. They understand the emotional challenges families face during this transition and may have practical insights that could help. Your strategy is absolutely sound - collecting survivor benefits while letting your own retirement benefit grow to maximum at 70 is one of the smartest approaches available. The detailed advice everyone has shared here about being explicit with your application and getting everything documented will serve you well. Please take care of yourself during this difficult journey. This community has given you an incredible roadmap, and your careful preparation now will make things much easier when you need to focus on what matters most. You're both in my thoughts.

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Oliver Schulz

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Thank you so much for mentioning the "protective filing date" - that's an incredibly important detail that I hadn't heard about before. Knowing that I can establish an earlier effective date even if there are processing delays could make a real financial difference, especially if there are any complications with gathering documents during an already stressful time. You're also right about checking with the hospice team about their experience with Social Security applications. They've been so helpful with other aspects of this journey, and I hadn't thought to ask them about the administrative side of things. They probably have insights about timing and documentation that could be really valuable. This entire thread has given me such a comprehensive understanding of not just the strategy itself, but all these crucial implementation details that I never would have known to ask about. From the protective filing date to the various support resources to the importance of being explicit about wanting only survivor benefits - I feel like I have a complete playbook now. Having this roadmap gives me such peace of mind knowing that when the time comes, I can focus on grieving and healing while still being confident that I'm handling the financial pieces correctly. This community's knowledge and support has been truly invaluable during one of the most difficult times in my life. Thank you for your thoughtful advice and kind words. They mean more than you know.

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I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's condition - sending you both strength during this incredibly difficult time. I wanted to add one important consideration that might help with your planning: since you're currently 66 and your wife's SSDI converts to retirement benefits in February 2026 (just before your FRA in April), you should know that survivor benefits are calculated based on what your wife would have received at HER full retirement age, not necessarily what she's currently receiving on SSDI. This means the survivor benefit amount might be different from her current SSDI payment. It's worth calling SSA ahead of time to get an estimate of what your survivor benefit would actually be, so you can better plan financially for those years between claiming survivor benefits and switching to your own maximum benefit at 70. Also, one practical tip that might help: consider setting up automatic payments for your essential bills now if you haven't already. When you're dealing with the emotional impact of loss, having one less administrative task to worry about each month can be a real blessing. The strategy you're planning is absolutely solid - taking survivor benefits while letting your own retirement benefit grow to maximum at 70 is one of the best remaining optimization strategies. You're being incredibly thoughtful to plan this out now when you can think clearly. This community has given you excellent advice about being explicit with SSA and getting everything documented. You're as prepared as you can possibly be, which will help tremendously when the time comes.

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Sean Flanagan

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! Just turned 66 last month and started my Social Security benefits in March. Sure enough, I got hit with the double Medicare Part B premium payment this month - $203 withdrawn from my bank AND deducted from my SS check. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been both incredibly helpful and absolutely maddening. What really gets me is that during my SSA application interview, the representative never once mentioned this coordination issue. They made it sound like everything would seamlessly transfer over automatically. If I hadn't stumbled across discussions like this, I probably would have let the double payments continue for months without realizing what was happening! I'm planning to call Medicare first thing tomorrow morning using the 1-800-MEDICARE number that everyone has recommended. Based on all the advice shared here, I'll have my Social Security number, Medicare number, and benefit start date ready, and I'll make sure to ask for confirmation numbers for both stopping the bank withdrawals and initiating the refund process. It's absolutely inexcusable that in 2025, two federal agencies can't coordinate something as basic as premium payments. The fact that this affects thousands of people every month according to the Medicare reps really shows this is a massive systemic failure, not just isolated incidents. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences - this thread has been infinitely more helpful than any official government website!

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Mary Bates

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Sean, you're absolutely right to be frustrated about not being warned during your SSA interview - that seems to be a consistent theme throughout this thread! It's really concerning that SSA reps aren't properly preparing people for this coordination nightmare. When you call Medicare tomorrow, I'd suggest also asking them if there's any way they can expedite the refund process since you're calling so quickly after the duplicate payment. Some people in other forums have mentioned that calling within the first few days of the duplicate charge sometimes allows for faster processing. Also, based on what Isabella mentioned about documenting everything, you might want to take a screenshot of your bank statement showing the duplicate charge before you call, just in case there are any issues with the refund later. Good luck with your call tomorrow - hopefully they can get everything sorted out quickly! This thread really has become an invaluable resource for navigating what should be a simple transition but unfortunately isn't.

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CyberNinja

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I'm currently 65 and just enrolled in Medicare Part B while still working, but I'm planning to start my Social Security benefits in about 8 months. This entire thread has been absolutely eye-opening - I had no idea this coordination nightmare between SSA and Medicare was so widespread! Reading through everyone's detailed experiences, it's clear that this isn't just an occasional glitch but a massive systemic failure affecting thousands of people every single month. The fact that Medicare reps immediately recognize these calls as "Social Security transition cases" really shows how routine this problem has become. What's particularly frustrating is learning that SSA representatives consistently fail to warn people about this during application interviews, leaving retirees completely blindsided by double payments. It's 2025 - how is it acceptable that two federal agencies still can't coordinate basic premium payments automatically? Based on all the invaluable advice shared here, I'm already preparing my action plan: call Medicare immediately the day my SS benefits start, have all my account numbers ready (SS, Medicare, bank), request confirmation numbers for both stopping withdrawals and any refund requests, ask for written documentation, take screenshots of bank statements, and monitor everything closely during the transition. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences and creating what's essentially become a survival guide for navigating this bureaucratic mess. This community provides far more practical guidance than any official government resource that somehow completely ignores this widespread coordination failure!

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Manny Lark

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to express my gratitude for this incredibly comprehensive discussion! I'm dealing with a very similar situation - divorced after 12 years, then a shorter second marriage that ended after 5 years. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so enlightening, especially learning that the 10-year rule is such a firm cutoff and that my second marriage won't qualify for benefits. The advice about specifically requesting divorced spouse benefits when applying really stands out to me - it's alarming that SSA doesn't automatically present all options! I'm particularly grateful for the practical tips about gathering documentation early and the heads-up about needing marriage AND divorce certificates. My divorce was finalized in another state, so I'll definitely start that process well in advance based on the advice here. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have successfully claimed divorced spouse benefits, did you find that local SSA offices were more helpful than the phone lines for getting accurate information? I'm wondering if it's worth scheduling an in-person appointment when I'm closer to retirement age rather than dealing with the phone system challenges that several people have mentioned. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences and creating such a supportive, informative discussion!

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Lourdes Fox

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Welcome to the community Manny! I'm also new here and have found this discussion incredibly valuable. Regarding your question about local SSA offices versus phone support - from what I've gathered reading through various experiences shared here, in-person visits tend to be more productive for complex situations like divorced spouse benefits. You get dedicated time with someone who can review your specific case, and there's less chance of getting disconnected or rushed through the conversation. That said, I'd recommend calling ahead to schedule an appointment rather than just walking in, as wait times can be quite long without one. Some people have mentioned that even scheduling the appointment can be challenging by phone, which is where those callback services like Claimyr that were mentioned earlier might be helpful. The advice about starting your document gathering early is so smart, especially since you'll need to get certified copies from another state. I'm in a similar boat with out-of-state divorce papers, and I'm planning to start that process at least a year before I need them, just to avoid any last-minute stress. This whole thread has really opened my eyes to how much preparation is needed - thank you to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Gabriel Ruiz

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how thorough and helpful this discussion has been! I'm in a somewhat different situation but dealing with similar Social Security questions - I was married for 16 years, divorced, and now wondering about my future benefit options. What really stands out to me from reading everyone's experiences is how much self-advocacy seems to be required when dealing with SSA. The fact that representatives don't automatically present all available options is both surprising and concerning. It sounds like going in well-prepared with specific questions and knowledge of what you're entitled to is absolutely critical. I'm also struck by how many people mentioned the importance of having documentation ready well in advance. Given that I'll need to get certified copies of both marriage and divorce certificates from my home state, I think I'll start that process soon rather than waiting until I'm closer to retirement age. One question for the group - has anyone found it helpful to consult with a Social Security attorney or advisor before applying, especially for more complex situations involving divorced spouse benefits? I'm wondering if the cost might be worth it to ensure I don't miss any opportunities or make any mistakes in the application process. Thank you all for sharing such detailed, real-world experiences. This community seems incredibly knowledgeable and supportive!

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Luca Russo

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Welcome Gabriel! I'm also new to this community and have been blown away by the wealth of knowledge shared here. Your question about consulting with a Social Security attorney is really insightful - I hadn't considered that option but it makes a lot of sense for complex situations like divorced spouse benefits. From what I've gathered reading through this discussion, there are so many nuances and potential pitfalls (like not specifically asking for divorced spouse benefits, missing deadlines, or not understanding the earnings test implications) that having professional guidance could definitely be valuable. The cost might be worth it just to avoid leaving money on the table or making irreversible mistakes. I've also been thinking about the self-advocacy point you made. It's really eye-opening how much responsibility falls on us to know what we're entitled to and ask the right questions. This thread has been like a masterclass in what to prepare for! Starting your documentation process early is definitely smart. Between this discussion and some research I've done on my own, it seems like having everything organized well in advance reduces stress and gives you more options if you run into any bureaucratic delays. Thanks for bringing up the attorney question - I think that's something many of us should consider as we get closer to retirement age!

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