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I'm planning to retire next year and start drawing Social Security at 63, but I'm also in the process of selling my small business. The buyer is offering payments spread over 5 years (about $160,000 total). I'm confused about how this will affect my Social Security benefits. Does the money from selling my business count as income for the SS earnings limit? Will I lose some of my benefits if I accept the installment payments? I've worked for 38 years and was counting on getting both my SS benefits and these business sale payments to have enough for retirement. Really worried about making a mistake here!
I submitted my online application for SS retirement benefits 7 weeks ago (March 15th) and still haven't heard anything back except the initial confirmation email. I'm turning 66 and 4 months in June 2025 (my FRA) and wanted to get everything set up early. The SSA website says processing can take 4-6 weeks, but I'm now past that timeframe. My MySocialSecurity account just shows 'pending' with no other details.I've called the 800 number at least 8 times but either get disconnected or told the wait time is over 2 hours. I tried visiting my local office but they said I need an appointment, which is booked out for 5 weeks!Is this normal processing time these days? Should I be worried something is wrong with my application? I'm starting to get anxious because I'm retiring next month and really counting on that first payment in July.
I'm in the exact same situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I submitted my retirement application 6 weeks ago and have been getting increasingly worried about the "pending" status with no updates. Like many others here, I also worked for a local government agency (the county assessor's office) for about 4 years in my early career, so now I understand why my application is probably taking longer. The SSA website's 4-6 week estimate is completely misleading and causing unnecessary stress for people trying to plan their retirements. I've been hesitant to try calling because of all the horror stories about hold times, but after reading about the 7am strategy and the Claimyr service, I'm going to give both a try this week. It's frustrating that we have to jump through so many hoops just to get basic information about our own applications, but at least knowing these delays are unfortunately normal helps reduce some of the anxiety. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and tips - this community support makes the waiting much more bearable!
I'm new to this community but wanted to jump in and say how valuable this entire discussion has been! I'm about to start my own Social Security retirement application process and reading through everyone's real experiences has completely changed my timeline. I had no idea that government employment history causes such significant delays - I worked for a state university for about 8 years, so I'm definitely expecting a much longer wait than the SSA website suggests. It's really concerning how outdated and misleading their processing time estimates are. Based on all the advice shared here, I'm planning to submit my application at least 4 months before I actually need benefits to start. The Claimyr service and congressional representative options are great backup plans to keep in mind. Thank you to everyone who's been so generous in sharing their experiences and tips - it's helping newcomers like me plan much more realistically than the official guidance would allow!
Welcome to the community! Your proactive approach is really smart - applying 4 months early based on what you've learned here will definitely save you stress later. The university employment history will likely trigger that manual review process that so many of us are experiencing. One thing I'd add to the great advice already shared is to make sure you have all your employment records well-documented before you apply, especially anything related to your state university years. Having those details ready can help prevent additional delays if they need to verify your earnings history. It's frustrating that we have to plan around such broken timelines, but at least this community helps us navigate the reality of the situation!
I'm just starting to research the Social Security retirement application process and stumbled upon this incredibly informative discussion! As someone who hasn't filed yet but is planning to retire in about 8 months, reading through all these real experiences has been both enlightening and concerning. It's clear that the SSA website's 4-6 week processing estimate is completely outdated and misleading. I worked for a state agency for about 5 years early in my career, so based on what everyone's sharing here about government employment causing delays, I'm now planning to submit my application at least 3-4 months before I actually need benefits to start. The tips about calling at 7am, checking MySocialSecurity messages regularly, and having backup options like Claimyr or contacting congressional representatives are incredibly valuable. Thank you to everyone who's shared their experiences and advice - this real-world knowledge is so much more helpful than the official SSA guidance!
Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and just beginning to navigate this whole Social Security process. Your plan to apply 3-4 months early sounds really smart based on everything I've been reading in this thread. It's honestly shocking how different the reality is from what the SSA website suggests - I had no idea that government employment history could cause such significant delays. I'm in a similar situation where I worked for a federal contractor for several years, so I'm expecting my application might take longer too. This discussion has been such a wake-up call about planning ahead! The community here seems really supportive and full of practical advice that you just can't get from official sources. Good luck with your retirement planning, and thanks for contributing to this valuable conversation!
I'm in a really confusing situation with Social Security and need some advice! I filed for SSDI about 2.5 years ago and I'm currently at the appeal stage after being denied twice. The whole process is taking FOREVER. I'm turning 62 next March, and I'm trying to figure out my options if my disability case is still pending by then. My wife is currently receiving both SSDI and Social Security retirement benefits (she's 67). I'm wondering if I should: 1) Apply for early retirement benefits at 62 while my disability appeal continues 2) Try to claim spousal benefits on my wife's record instead 3) Just keep waiting for the disability decision I'm worried about making the wrong choice - especially if taking early retirement might mess up my disability case or result in a permanently reduced benefit. Would applying for spousal benefits affect my SSDI case? The reduction for taking benefits at 62 seems steep but we're really struggling financially right now. Anyone been through something similar or have advice? Thanks!
Just wanted to add something about the spousal benefit option you mentioned. Based on my experience, the spousal benefit at age 62 would be significantly reduced - approximately 30-35% of your wife's PIA instead of the full 50% you'd get at your full retirement age. When I was trying to decide, I found that my own early retirement benefit was actually higher than the reduced spousal benefit I qualified for through my husband. It's worth checking both calculations. SSA will actually give you the higher of the two amounts automatically when you apply. Another thing to consider - if your disability is approved and your established onset date is before age 62, you might be eligible for more backpay than you realize. Mine went back almost 2 years before I applied for early retirement.
I'm going through something very similar right now - filed for SSDI 18 months ago, got denied once, and I'm 61 so facing this same decision soon. What really helped me was creating a spreadsheet to compare all the scenarios: 1. My projected early retirement benefit at 62 (about 75% of my full benefit) 2. What my SSDI would be if approved (100% of my full retirement amount) 3. The spousal benefit calculation (much lower in my case) One thing I learned that might help you - even if you take early retirement, you can still pursue your disability case aggressively. Consider getting a disability attorney if you don't have one already. They work on contingency and often know which medical evidence the judges are looking for. Also, document EVERYTHING about your financial hardship. If your disability is eventually approved, having records of how the delay affected you financially could be important for your case. The waiting is absolutely brutal, but remember that approval rates are much higher at the hearing level than the initial application level. Hang in there!
I'm planning to sell my home next spring and buy a smaller condo. After paying off my mortgage, I'll probably have around $215,000 left over that I'll put in my savings. Will this money count as income that affects my Social Security benefits? I'm 67 and already collecting retirement. Also, I keep hearing people talk about something called 'Irma' related to Medicare premiums. Is this connected to having extra money in my account? My neighbor said her Medicare cost went up after she sold her vacation property, and I'm worried the same might happen to me.
To summarize what everyone has correctly pointed out: 1. Social Security benefits: Your house sale won't affect these at all since you're over FRA. 2. Medicare IRMAA: If your gain is under the $250,000 exemption (which it likely is based on your purchase price), there would be no impact on your IRMAA status. 3. Watch out for: How you invest the proceeds could generate taxable income in future years. 4. Timeline: IRMAA looks at income from 2 years prior, so any potential impact would be delayed. 5. Appeals: If you do get hit with IRMAA due to a one-time event, you can appeal using Form SSA-44. For peace of mind, I'd recommend consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in retirement planning before making any major decisions. They can help you structure things to minimize any negative impacts.
Just wanted to add one more consideration - if you're planning to put that $215,000 in regular savings accounts, you might want to think about how the interest income could affect your taxes going forward. Even at today's savings rates (around 4-5%), that could generate $8,000-$10,000+ in taxable interest annually, which adds to your MAGI for future IRMAA calculations. You might want to consider tax-advantaged options like municipal bonds (if you're in a higher tax bracket) or spreading the money across different types of investments to manage the tax impact. Also, if you're not already maxing out any available tax-deferred accounts, that could be another strategy to keep your MAGI lower in future years. Definitely something to discuss with both your tax preparer and a financial advisor to make sure you're optimizing for both current and future tax situations!
I'm turning 60 next spring and planning to claim Social Security survivor benefits after my husband passed away last year. I need to keep working part-time to maintain health insurance coverage through my employer. I've heard Social Security has some earnings limit that might reduce benefits, but I'm not sure if this applies to survivor benefits at age 60. If I earn less than $24,000 annually, will they still reduce my monthly survivor benefit amount? I'm trying to budget for next year and figure out exactly how many hours I can work without losing benefits. Anyone dealt with this situation before?
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I feel much better prepared now. I'm going to make sure I stay under that $23,340 limit to avoid any reductions. I'll also make sure to be very clear about my expected earnings when I apply, and keep track of everything with a spreadsheet as suggested. The timing of payments is also good to know for my budget planning. Really appreciate all the advice!
One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned - if you're planning to work part-time specifically for health insurance, you might want to check if you qualify for any subsidies on the marketplace. Sometimes the cost of marketplace insurance plus the subsidy can be less than what you lose in reduced survivor benefits from working. I know someone who did the math and found they could actually come out ahead by not working and getting marketplace coverage instead. Worth running the numbers both ways before you commit to a work schedule!
For marketplace subsidies, they'll look at your total income including survivor benefits when determining eligibility. The healthcare.gov calculator is pretty helpful for getting estimates. Also check if your state has expanded Medicaid - depending on your total income, you might qualify for that instead. I'd recommend talking to a navigator during open enrollment (November-January) since they can walk through all your options for free. The math can get complicated when you factor in the survivor benefit reductions, but it's definitely worth exploring before you commit to working just for insurance!
For marketplace subsidies, they'll look at your total household income - so that includes both your survivor benefits AND any work income. The healthcare.gov website has a subsidy calculator that can give you estimates. You might also want to check with a SHIP counselor (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) - they're free and can help you compare all your options. I used one when I was in a similar situation and they were incredibly helpful in breaking down the real costs of each scenario.
Javier Mendoza
One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - make sure you understand the timing of when payments are received vs when they're reported for tax/SS purposes. If you're getting installment payments over 5 years, the IRS installment sale rules might spread the gain recognition over those years, but Social Security looks at when you actually receive the money. This could work in your favor for managing the earnings test limits each year. Also, since you mentioned retiring at 63, remember that waiting until your Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for you) would eliminate the earnings test entirely - might be worth running the numbers to see if delaying SS while taking the business sale payments could result in higher lifetime benefits.
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Sara Hellquiem
The SSA website has a retirement estimator tool that's pretty helpful for comparing scenarios, but for something this complex with business sale income, you might want to use a more comprehensive calculator. I've heard good things about the Social Security Solutions calculator and the MaximizeMySocialSecurity tool - both let you input different claiming ages and income scenarios. Your financial advisor or elder law attorney might also have professional-grade software that can model this more precisely. Given the complexity of your situation with the installment payments, it's probably worth the cost to have a professional run detailed projections for you.
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Tyrone Hill
The SSA website has a basic retirement estimator at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html, but for more detailed scenarios like yours with business sale income, I'd recommend checking out the calculators at AARP or Fidelity - they let you input different claiming strategies and income scenarios. Also, since you're dealing with a complex situation involving business sales and early retirement, it might be worth paying for a consultation with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security optimization. They can run detailed projections comparing taking benefits at 63 vs waiting until 67, factoring in your business sale payments and the earnings test implications.
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Carmella Fromis
I've been following this discussion and wanted to add something that might be helpful based on my experience with SSA determinations. When you're working with your attorney to restructure the sale agreement, make sure they're familiar with SSA's "significant services" test. Even if most of your sale is properly structured as capital gains, if SSA determines that you're providing "significant services" as part of the transition (like actively managing operations, making business decisions, or providing ongoing expertise), they might try to reclassify portions as self-employment income subject to both SE tax and the earnings test. The key is documenting that any assistance you provide is truly just "transfer of knowledge" - like showing someone how existing systems work or introducing them to current suppliers - rather than ongoing business involvement. I've seen cases where people got tripped up because their transition period looked too much like continuing to run the business. Also, since you mentioned 38 years of work history, you might want to check your earnings record on ssa.gov to make sure all your years are properly credited. Sometimes maximizing your highest 35 years of earnings through delayed retirement credits can be more valuable than taking reduced benefits early, especially when you have other income sources like your business sale to bridge the gap.
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Dmitri Volkov
This "significant services" test is something I definitely need to understand better! I was planning to help with the transition for about 3 months, mainly showing the new owner how our customer management system works and introducing them to key suppliers. Based on your explanation, I need to be really careful about how this gets documented - making it clear that I'm just transferring existing knowledge rather than making ongoing business decisions. I appreciate the reminder about checking my earnings record on ssa.gov too. With 38 years of work history, I should probably verify that everything is properly credited before making any decisions about when to start benefits. It sounds like the delayed retirement credits could be quite valuable in my situation, especially with the business sale providing bridge income. Thank you for bringing up these additional considerations!
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