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Benjamin Johnson

Social Security COLA increase calculation: before or after Medicare premium deduction?

I'm getting confused about how the annual COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) works with Medicare premiums. Does Social Security calculate the COLA percentage increase on my gross benefit amount BEFORE they take out my Medicare Part B premium, or is it calculated on the net amount I actually receive after the Medicare deduction? I'm asking because with the Medicare premium going up too, I want to understand if I'm getting the full COLA increase or if it's somehow reduced because of the Medicare deduction timing. This makes a difference in my budget planning for next year. Thanks in advance for explaining this!

Zara Perez

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The COLA increase is applied to your gross Social Security benefit amount BEFORE any deductions like Medicare. Your entire benefit gets the increase, regardless of what's deducted afterward. That's why sometimes when Medicare premiums increase significantly, your net payment might not increase much (or at all in rare cases) even with a good COLA percentage.

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Thank you! So it sounds like I'll get the full percentage increase on my total benefit amount, which is good news. Do you know if they announce the Medicare premium increases at the same time as the COLA?

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Daniel Rogers

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its before medicare gets taken out! i just went thru this with my mom last year. she got confused cuz her check only went up like $18 even tho cola was like 3% or something

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That's exactly what I'm worried about! It feels like you're not really getting the full increase when Medicare keeps going up too.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Just to add some detailed clarification: The COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) is calculated on your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), which is your basic benefit before ANY deductions. The SSA applies the COLA percentage uniformly to everyone's base benefit amount. However, it's important to understand that when both the COLA and Medicare premium increase in the same year, they can offset each other. For example, if you receive $2000 in gross benefits, a 3% COLA would add $60. But if the Medicare Part B premium increases by $20 in the same year, your actual check would only increase by $40. This is why many beneficiaries feel like they're not getting the full COLA - technically you are, but other rising costs are eating into it.

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This makes perfect sense now. I've always been confused why my actual deposit doesn't seem to match the COLA percentage they announce. It's the Medicare premium increase offsetting some of the gain.

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Ella Russell

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Does anyone know when they're announcing the 2023 COLA? I heard it might be over 3% with inflation being so high lately.

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Aaliyah Reed

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The 2023 COLA has already been announced - it was 8.7%. For 2024, it was 3.2%. The 2025 COLA will be announced in October 2024, based on third-quarter CPI data. The announcement typically comes in mid-October.

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Mohammed Khan

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the whole system is RIDICULOUS!!! they give us a tiny cola increase then take most of it away with medicare increases!!! my check only went up $12 last year after a so-called 'big increase' - what a joke!!! meanwhile congress gives themselves huge raises every year!!!!

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Gavin King

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I understand your frustration, but the Medicare premium increases are tied to healthcare costs, not decided by the same people who determine the COLA. Both systems are following their own formulas. That said, it definitely can feel like you're running in place sometimes when increases in one area get consumed by increases in another.

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Nathan Kim

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My mom had something weird happen where her Medicare premium didn't increase one year because of something called the "hold harmless" provision. Anyone know how that works?

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Zara Perez

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Yes, the "hold harmless" provision prevents your Social Security benefit from decreasing due to Medicare premium increases. If the COLA increase to your Social Security benefit is smaller than the Medicare premium increase would be, your Medicare premium increase is limited to the amount of your COLA increase. This ensures your net Social Security payment doesn't decrease from one year to the next. For example, if your COLA would increase your benefit by $10, but Medicare premiums are scheduled to rise by $15, your premium would only increase by $10 instead of $15. This doesn't apply to higher-income beneficiaries who pay IRMAA surcharges or those who don't have their Medicare premium deducted from their Social Security.

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Gavin King

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For anyone struggling to reach SSA to discuss their specific COLA or benefit questions, I found a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an agent quickly after weeks of failed attempts. Their website (claimyr.com) has a video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU showing how it works. It basically holds your place in line so you don't have to keep calling back. I used it when I needed to sort out why my benefit amount seemed wrong after the COLA increase, and I got through to a real person in about 30 minutes instead of spending days trying.

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Daniel Rogers

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does it cost money? i spent 2 hours on hold yesterday and then they hung up on me!

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Gavin King

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@profile6 Yes, there is a fee, but it was worth it to me after wasting days trying to get through. They don't handle your personal info - they just connect you with SSA's phone system so you're talking directly to Social Security. After my third disconnection trying to resolve my COLA questions, I was at my wit's end.

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Mohammed Khan

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i might try this. ive called SSA 14 TIMES this month trying to figure out why my medicare premium went up more than my neighbor's who gets the same amount!!!

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Aaliyah Reed

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Going back to the original question - here's a simple example to make it crystal clear: Let's say your gross SS benefit is $2,000/month and Medicare Part B premium is $170/month. Your net check is $1,830. If COLA is 3%, the increase is calculated on the $2,000, giving you a $60 increase (to $2,060). If Medicare then increases by $15 (to $185), your new net check would be $1,875 ($2,060 - $185). So even though you got a full 3% COLA ($60), your actual check only increased by $45 because of the Medicare premium increase. This is why many beneficiaries feel like they don't get the full COLA - other costs are rising simultaneously.

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Thank you for breaking it down with actual numbers! This makes it very clear. I've been on Social Security for 3 years now and always wondered why my increase never seemed to match the percentage they announced on the news.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Just wanted to add that you can also check your exact COLA calculation by looking at your Social Security Statement online at ssa.gov/myaccount. It shows your benefit history and how each year's COLA was applied to your base amount. This helped me understand exactly how much my gross benefit increased versus what my net payment became after Medicare and other deductions. It's really helpful for budget planning since you can see the pattern of how COLA and Medicare premium changes have affected your payments over time.

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That's a great tip about checking the online statement! I'm still pretty new to navigating all the Social Security resources online. Is there anything specific I should look for on the statement to understand the COLA calculations better? I want to make sure I'm interpreting the numbers correctly when I review my account.

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