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just wondering what kind of repairs ur doing with the 18k? i need to redo my bathroom but getting quotes for like 30k!!
One more thing to be aware of - you mentioned you're 65. When you reach your Full Retirement Age (66 or 67 depending on birth year), you might want to look into whether you qualify for retirement benefits on your own record. Sometimes people can get higher benefits by switching from survivor benefits to their own retirement benefits (or vice versa). It's worth checking with SSA about this when you reach FRA.
That's really helpful advice! My FRA is 66 and 8 months (born in 1959), so I'm getting close. I'll definitely check with SSA to see if switching would be beneficial when I reach that age. My own work record is decent but my husband had a higher income, so I've assumed survivor benefits would be higher.
Actually, the taxation thresholds for Social Security benefits ($32,000 and $44,000 for married filing jointly) haven't been adjusted for inflation since they were introduced in 1983 and 1993 respectively. Unlike the earnings test limits which increase annually, these thresholds remain fixed unless Congress takes action to change them. There's no current legislation set to change these amounts in the near future.
One more thing to consider - if you're concerned about exceeding income thresholds, you might want to look into whether contributing to a traditional IRA or 401(k) makes sense for your situation. Those contributions can lower your adjusted gross income, which might help keep you under certain thresholds. It's worth discussing with a tax professional who understands how retirement accounts interact with Social Security taxation.
I was in almost exactly your situation last year! I took retirement at 62, then got MUCH worse health-wise at 63. My doctor actually suggested I apply for SSDI since I had to stop working completely. The phone interview was mostly gathering info and was less stressful than I expected. The thing nobody told me was how LONG the whole process would take. It was almost 5 months from my phone interview until I got the decision letter. Then it took another month for the payment adjustment to actually happen. So be prepared to wait... a lot. Oh, and having all your medical records and doctor contact info ready really helps speed things up. And don't get discouraged if they deny you the first time - something like 70% of applications get denied initially. I had to appeal but eventually got approved.
Honestly I wouldn't even bother applying for SSDI if you're already getting retirement. My brother-in-law tried this exact thing and got denied TWICE even though he literally can't walk without a walker now. The whole system is RIGGED against us. They make it impossible to get approved unless you hire a lawyer who takes a huge chunk of your backpay. It's all a scam!
EXACTLY!!! They just want us to give up and go away! I've been fighting for disability for 2 years and they keep saying my condition isn't severe enough even though I can barely get out of bed some days!!!
While the process can certainly be frustrating, it's not accurate to say it's impossible without a lawyer. About 35% of initial SSDI applications are approved. For those who appeal through the hearing level, approval rates rise to about 50%. The Total and Permanent Disability discharge approval the OP already has is actually a positive factor, as it shows another federal program has recognized their disability, though SSA will make their own determination.
One more important point: While any benefits withheld due to the earnings test are not lost forever. When your wife reaches full retirement age, SSA will recalculate her benefit amount to credit back the months when benefits were withheld. This means her monthly benefit will permanently increase at FRA to account for the months she didn't receive benefits due to the earnings test. Many people don't realize this and think withheld benefits are just lost.
Not to get off topic but make sure ur checking the tax implications to! When I retired at 63 I had SS + part time work and got surprised by how social security is taxed when u have other income. Up to 85% of benefits can be taxable if ur over certain thresholds.
Good point. For 2025, if combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits) exceeds $25,000 for an individual or $32,000 for a couple filing jointly, up to 50% of benefits become taxable. Above $34,000 individual/$44,000 couple, up to 85% becomes taxable. Definitely something to consider in retirement planning.
AM I THE ONLY ONE who thinks its RIDICULOUS that we have to jump through all these hoops?? The SSA KNOWS when we reach FRA. They KNOW they've been reducing our benefits. They KNOW when the earnings test should stop applying. WHY do we have to call them and REMIND them to do their jobs!?!? I've been fighting with them for 3 MONTHS over my husband's SSI/SSDI mixup and can't get ANYONE to help!!
Just to clarify - SSI and SSDI are completely different programs with different eligibility requirements. Your husband can't have an "SSI/SSDI mixup" as they're separate applications and systems. SSI is needs-based while SSDI is based on work credits. That might be contributing to your difficulty resolving the issue.
UPDATE: I finally got through to SSA! The agent confirmed there was an error in my case. Apparently, they had me coded incorrectly in their system, which prevented the automatic recalculation at FRA. They're fixing it now and said I should receive the retroactive adjustment within 30-60 days. The agent said the back payment will be for all reduced benefits from June 2024 (my FRA month) through now. Thank you all for encouraging me to keep pushing on this!
My wife and I both filed for SS last year. Mine took 4 weeks, hers took 9 weeks. Same day, same office. Makes no sense! But we both got our payments on time starting in Feb 2024. Don't worry too much yet.
Wow, that's quite a difference for two applications filed at the same time! Did they ever explain why hers took so much longer?
I'm going through exactly the same thing right now! Applied Nov 15 for Feb 1 start date and nothing yet. Haven't slept well in weeks worrying about it. Did you upload your birth certificate and marriage license when you applied? I'm worried because I didn't have those documents scanned and ready when I filled out the application.
If you're worried about missing documents, you can call SSA directly to check if they need anything else from you. Using the Claimyr service I mentioned above can help you get through quickly. Better to find out now than to have your application delayed further!
Update on the ineligible child allocation: Make sure when you contact SSA that you have proof of your son's relationship to you (birth certificate) and proof that he lives in your household. They'll also need to verify he doesn't have income of his own that would reduce his allocation. If he does have any income, they subtract that from the $522 allocation amount. One more tip: When you request the reconsideration, also ask them to continue the original SSI payment amount while the reconsideration is pending. You need to specifically request this within 10 days of the notice date.
Is your son also disabled? Does he get any other benefits? Sometimes that affects the calculations too and makes everything even more confusing! My daughter got SSI but when my son started getting a small survivor benefit after his dad died, they had to recalculate everything and it was a nightmare trying to understand their math.
No, my son isn't disabled and doesn't receive any benefits. That's why I was confused when they didn't seem to include an allocation for him as an ineligible child. It sounds like your situation was even more complicated with multiple benefit types! How long did it take you to get it all sorted out?
my neihgbor said be careful because if you take ss early it might effect your medicare costs later?? something about IRMAA or whatever its called. anyone know about this??
Taking Social Security early doesn't directly affect IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount). IRMAA is an additional premium some people pay for Medicare Part B and Part D if their income is above certain thresholds. It's based on your modified adjusted gross income from your tax return from 2 years prior. So claiming SS early only affects IRMAA indirectly - if taking SS early means your total income is higher in those years before Medicare begins, you might face higher IRMAA charges. But for someone with limited income like the original poster, IRMAA is unlikely to be an issue.
One important thing nobody has mentioned: if you're providing care for your disabled husband and elderly parents, you might want to look into whether your state offers any paid family caregiver programs through Medicaid. Many states have programs where family members can get paid (typically minimum wage) for providing care that would otherwise require a professional caregiver. This would give you some income now and help build up your Social Security credits for future benefits. Regarding your original questions: 1. Yes, you can claim spousal benefits on your husband's SSDI record 2. His SSDI will automatically convert to retirement benefits at his full retirement age 3. The amount typically stays the same during this conversion 4. Taking your own benefit early will reduce it permanently, but shouldn't affect spousal benefits you might be eligible for
I had no idea about paid family caregiver programs! That's definitely something I'll look into. Thank you for that tip and for clarifying about the benefits. I think I'm going to apply for both my retirement and spousal benefits, then look into the caregiver program as well. At least that gives us a starting point to improve our financial situation.
One last important point: The earnings limit only affects your benefits while you're under FRA. Once you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount and give you credit for months they withheld benefits due to excess earnings. So even if you lose some benefits due to working, you'll eventually get the money back in the form of a higher monthly benefit starting at FRA. It's not a true "penalty" - more like a deferral of benefits.
Ugh, all these rules make my head hurt!! I'm 63 and just trying to figure out if I should keep working or not. Why does social security have to be so COMPLICATED?? Every time I think I understand something, there's another rule or exception!
It's definitely complex, but there's a method to the madness. The earnings test is designed to reflect the original purpose of Social Security - replacing lost income in retirement. The rules balance allowing some work while collecting benefits against the program's primary purpose. Once you understand the reasoning, the rules make more sense, even if they're administratively complicated.
Olivia Harris
Regarding Medicare enrollment: You'll need to complete a form called "Request for Employment Information" (CMS-L564) from your husband's employer when you apply. This proves you had qualifying health coverage and helps avoid late enrollment penalties. You can apply for Medicare through SSA up to 3 months before you need coverage to start. Also important: Since you'll both be transitioning to Medicare at the same time, you each need to complete your own enrollment. Your husband's retirement doesn't automatically enroll you, even though you're both on his employer plan currently.
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Noah Ali
•Thank you for this detailed information! That form number is particularly helpful - I'll make sure we have that ready when the time comes. I appreciate knowing we each need to complete separate enrollments too.
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Alicia Stern
One more thing to consider - if your husband starts SS benefits in October but continues working, he'll still be paying FICA taxes on his earnings which slightly increases his benefit amount through something called the Annual Earnings Test Recalculation. SSA automatically recalculates his benefit each year to account for additional earnings. So he could see a small bump in benefits after he fully retires. Most people don't know about this little bonus!
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Chloe Boulanger
•Great point about the AETR! To clarify though, this only happens if the new earnings are higher than one of the 35 highest earning years already being used to calculate the benefit. After 40+ years of work, this might not result in a change, but it's definitely worth knowing about.
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