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Can I switch from early SS retirement to SSDI at 63 after getting TPD loan discharge?

I started collecting Social Security retirement at 62 because I needed to cut back my work hours and couldn't afford to without some income. I'm 63 now and my health has gotten much worse. I was injured a few years back and it's still causing serious problems, plus I have other medical conditions that are getting worse. I just got approved for Total and Permanent Disability discharge for my student loans, which was a huge relief. Now I'm trying to apply for Social Security Disability (SSDI) since my conditions have worsened and I can barely work at all anymore. The problem is that since I'm already getting retirement benefits, I couldn't submit my SSDI application online. I completed all the paperwork, but now I have to do a phone interview with someone at SSA. I'm really nervous about this call and worried I'll mess something up or they'll deny me. Has anyone successfully switched from early retirement to disability benefits? What should I expect during this phone interview? Will they try to trip me up or ask trick questions? Any advice would be so appreciated!

AstroAce

i went thru this last year. had taken early retirement at 62 then got really sick. the phone interview isnt as scary as u think. they mostlt just verify info from ur application and ask about doctors. make sure u have ALL ur doctors names phone #s and addresses ready. also list of medications. they might ask about daily activities too like can u cook clean etc. good luck!!

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Thank you! That makes me feel a bit better. Did you have to wait long after the phone interview to hear back? And did they backpay you the difference between retirement and disability?

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What you're trying to do is switch from reduced retirement benefits to disability benefits. This is possible and actually quite common. If approved for SSDI, you'll receive the higher disability benefit amount instead of your reduced retirement amount. For the phone interview: 1) Have a complete list of all medical providers with contact information 2) Know exact dates of when your condition worsened (after you took early retirement) 3) Be able to clearly explain how your condition prevents you from working 4) Have documentation from your TPD loan discharge as supporting evidence The approval for TPD loan forgiveness is helpful but SSA uses different criteria for disability. Your medical records will be the most important factor. The disability benefit amount will be what you would have received had you initially filed for disability instead of early retirement.

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Thanks for all this detail! I have most of this information ready but I hadn't thought about the exact dates when my condition worsened. I'll need to go back through my medical records and get those clear before the call. Do you know if they'll request my medical records or do I need to send those in myself?

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SSA is TERRIBLE about phone interviews!!! I had one scheduled last month and they never called!!! Then they said I missed the appointment when I called to follow up! Now I'm waiting another 3 weeks for a new appointment. The whole system is broken!!

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm afraid of! Did they give you any way to confirm the appointment before the scheduled time? I'm already anxious about the call itself, but now I'm worried they might not even call when they're supposed to.

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Mei Zhang

I successfully switched from early retirement to SSDI last year. Here's what you need to know: The phone interview is primarily to gather information about your medical conditions, treatment history, and how your disability affects your ability to work. This is called a Technical Interview. Be honest about your limitations but don't exaggerate. After this call, your case will be sent to Disability Determination Services (DDS) in your state. They'll request your medical records directly from your providers - you don't need to send them yourself. If approved, your benefit will be adjusted to what you would have received had you filed for disability initially instead of early retirement. This removes the early retirement reduction penalty. However, there are some important things to understand: 1. They'll look at your disability onset date carefully - this needs to be supported by medical evidence 2. Backpay may be limited to 12 months from application date 3. The TPD approval helps but SSA has different criteria 4. Be prepared for a possible denial and appeal process My best advice: document everything, be specific about your limitations, and follow up regularly on your claim status.

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I got denied twice before getting approved on appeal. The whole process took almost 18 months! Make sure you answer their questions exactly - don't ramble or go off topic during the interview. And if they deny you, APPEAL right away. Don't give up and don't start a new application.

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That sounds like it might be really helpful! I'm worried about missing their call for the interview, but I also need to call them with a question before the scheduled interview. I'll check out that video, thanks!

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AstroAce

make sure u have ur work history for last 15 yrs too!!! they asked me all about that and i wasnt prepared had to call back

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Good point! I have most of it but I need to double check some dates from jobs I had 10+ years ago. Better to have too much information than not enough!

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One important thing to understand is that if you're approved for SSDI after taking early retirement, your benefit amount will be adjusted. When you took retirement at 62, your benefit was reduced by about 30% from your full retirement age amount. If approved for disability, you'll receive your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what you would get at full retirement age. The difference between these amounts can be substantial. For example, if your full retirement age benefit would have been $2,000, you're currently receiving approximately $1,400 in early retirement. If approved for SSDI, you could receive the full $2,000. Also, be aware that there's a 5-month waiting period for disability benefits, but since you're already past that, it shouldn't affect you. You could potentially receive retroactive benefits for up to 12 months before your application date if you can prove your disability began during that period.

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That's really helpful to understand the financial side better. My early retirement benefit is about $1,650 now after the COLA, so getting the full amount would make a huge difference for me. I'm pretty sure I can document that my condition has gotten significantly worse in the past year, so hopefully that will help with my case.

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The phone ppl dont decide if u get approved anyway. They just take down info. Its the medical review ppl who decide. They never even talk to u directly. System is messed up

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I was in almost exactly your situation last year! I took retirement at 62, then got MUCH worse health-wise at 63. My doctor actually suggested I apply for SSDI since I had to stop working completely. The phone interview was mostly gathering info and was less stressful than I expected. The thing nobody told me was how LONG the whole process would take. It was almost 5 months from my phone interview until I got the decision letter. Then it took another month for the payment adjustment to actually happen. So be prepared to wait... a lot. Oh, and having all your medical records and doctor contact info ready really helps speed things up. And don't get discouraged if they deny you the first time - something like 70% of applications get denied initially. I had to appeal but eventually got approved.

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That waiting time sounds rough. Did they at least backpay you once you were approved? And did you have to keep calling to check on the status or did they keep you updated?

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Honestly I wouldn't even bother applying for SSDI if you're already getting retirement. My brother-in-law tried this exact thing and got denied TWICE even though he literally can't walk without a walker now. The whole system is RIGGED against us. They make it impossible to get approved unless you hire a lawyer who takes a huge chunk of your backpay. It's all a scam!

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EXACTLY!!! They just want us to give up and go away! I've been fighting for disability for 2 years and they keep saying my condition isn't severe enough even though I can barely get out of bed some days!!!

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Mei Zhang

While the process can certainly be frustrating, it's not accurate to say it's impossible without a lawyer. About 35% of initial SSDI applications are approved. For those who appeal through the hearing level, approval rates rise to about 50%. The Total and Permanent Disability discharge approval the OP already has is actually a positive factor, as it shows another federal program has recognized their disability, though SSA will make their own determination.

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