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Naila Gordon

Can I apply for SSDI at age 65 while already receiving retirement benefits?

I'm really confused about my options at this point. I turned 65 two months ago and started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits right away because I needed the income. But my health has gotten much worse since then—I've been diagnosed with severe arthritis and a heart condition that makes it impossible for me to work anymore. Someone told me I might qualify for a higher amount through disability (SSDI), but I'm already getting retirement payments. Is it even possible to apply for disability while already drawing Social Security retirement? Would it increase my monthly payment? I've heard different things from friends and I can't get through to anyone at the local office.

Yes, you can technically apply for SSDI even after starting retirement benefits, but there are important considerations. This is called a "disability freeze" and it primarily protects your future benefit amounts by excluding the low/no earning years due to disability from your benefit calculation. However, at age 65, the potential advantage is limited because: 1. SSDI automatically converts to retirement benefits at your Full Retirement Age (FRA), which is between 66-67 depending on your birth year 2. The maximum benefit would be equal to your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - what you would have received at your FRA 3. If you're already receiving reduced retirement benefits because you claimed at 65 (before your FRA), SSDI could potentially increase your benefit to the full PIA amount The process requires proving your disability began before you reached FRA, and that it meets SSA's strict definition of disability.

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Thank you for explaining this! So if my FRA is 66 and 6 months (I was born in 1959), and I'm receiving reduced retirement benefits now at 65, could I actually see an increase in my monthly payment if approved for SSDI? The medical evidence clearly shows my conditions started before I filed for retirement.

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my sister tried to do this last year got denied twice. social security told her once u take retirement you cant get disability. maybe the rules changed?

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That's not entirely accurate. You absolutely can file for SSDI after starting retirement benefits. However, the disability must have begun before Full Retirement Age, and you must apply within 12 months of disability onset. Your sister's situation might have been different, or she may have received incorrect information from a representative.

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I went through this exact situation in 2023! Started retirement at 65 then got very sick two months later. I filed for disability and after a 5-month process, they approved me and adjusted my benefit to the full amount I would have received at my full retirement age. It was about $430 more per month for me. You definitely can do this but be prepared for a complicated process and lots of medical documentation.

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That's really encouraging to hear! Do you mind if I ask how long the whole process took from application to decision? And did you use a lawyer or handle it yourself?

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This is a somewhat specialized situation that many SSA representatives don't handle regularly. The key points: 1. You need to file SSA-16 (Application for Disability Insurance Benefits) 2. You must prove your disability began before you reach your Full Retirement Age 3. Medical evidence must show you meet SSA's definition of disability (inability to perform substantial gainful activity) 4. If approved, SSA will adjust your benefit to your full Primary Insurance Amount 5. This effectively removes the reduction for claiming early retirement One major challenge is that most local offices are still experiencing significant backlogs, and reaching someone by phone can take hours or even days of attempts. Documentation is absolutely critical in these cases.

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This is so helpful. I've been trying to call my local office for weeks but keep getting disconnected or told the wait time is over 2 hours. Do you know if there's any way to schedule an appointment specifically for this situation?

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does this actually work?? i've been trying to get ahold of someone at SS for 3 weeks about my husband's benefits!

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THE SS SYSTEM IS BROKEN!!!! I tried to do EXACTLY what you're asking about in 2024 and got DENIED even though I had STAGE 4 CANCER!!! They said since I already took early retirement at 63, I couldn't get disability. Then I appealed and suddenly they said I COULD apply but would need to start the whole process over. Then they lost my medical records TWICE!!! I eventually gave up because the stress was making my health worse. Good luck but prepare for a NIGHTMARE!!!

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I'm sorry you had such a difficult experience. There's unfortunately a lot of misinformation even among SSA employees about this specific situation. You absolutely can receive SSDI after starting retirement benefits if your disability began before FRA. It sounds like you encountered representatives who weren't familiar with the policy. If your cancer diagnosis still meets the criteria and you're still under FRA, you might want to consider trying again with skilled representation.

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Thanks but I'm done fighting with them. 8 months of my life wasted on this already. Just warning others what they might face!

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Quick question - I'm confused about something. Isn't SSDI for people who haven't reached retirement age yet? I thought once you're getting retirement benefits, disability isn't an option anymore? That's what my cousin who works for the government told me.

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That's a common misconception. SSDI converts to retirement benefits when you reach Full Retirement Age (66-67 depending on birth year). But if you take early retirement before your FRA and then become disabled, you can still apply for SSDI if the disability began before reaching your FRA. If approved, your benefit would be adjusted to remove the reduction for early retirement. After FRA, though, disability benefits are no longer available.

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Update: I finally spoke with someone at SSA yesterday. They confirmed I can apply for SSDI even though I'm receiving retirement benefits. They said if approved, my payment would increase to what I would have received at my full retirement age. I've started gathering all my medical records from the past year. Thanks everyone for your help and advice! I'll post again when I hear something.

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good luck! hope it works out better for u than my sister!

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my neighbor did this and got back pay too for the months since he got sick. dunno if they still do that but worth asking

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Yes, this is correct. If approved for SSDI after already receiving reduced retirement benefits, you can potentially receive retroactive payments. These would represent the difference between your reduced retirement benefit and your full Primary Insurance Amount for the months since your established disability onset date (after any applicable waiting periods). This is definitely worth discussing during the application process.

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Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who works in disability advocacy. What you're describing is absolutely possible, and I'm glad you were able to speak with someone at SSA who confirmed this. A few additional tips for your application: 1. Make sure to request your complete medical files from ALL providers who have treated your arthritis and heart condition - not just recent visits, but everything since your conditions began 2. Ask your doctors to complete RFC (Residual Functional Capacity) forms specifically describing your limitations 3. Keep a daily symptom diary documenting how your conditions affect your ability to perform basic activities 4. If you have any denials, don't give up - the appeals process often yields better results, especially with proper medical documentation The fact that your conditions are well-documented and clearly began before your FRA works in your favor. Best of luck with your application!

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about keeping a daily symptom diary - that's a great idea. I've been struggling to remember specific details about how my conditions affect me day-to-day when trying to explain it to doctors. The RFC forms are something I definitely need to ask about at my next appointments. I really appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips from your advocacy experience!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and took early retirement last year, but recently developed chronic kidney disease that's progressing rapidly. My nephrologist says I'll likely need dialysis within the next 6 months, which would make working impossible. Reading about the disability freeze and potential benefit increase gives me hope that I might have options. Has anyone here dealt specifically with kidney disease for SSDI approval? I'm wondering if conditions that worsen over time (rather than sudden onset) face different challenges in the approval process.

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I'm sorry to hear about your kidney disease diagnosis. Progressive conditions like CKD can actually be easier to document for SSDI purposes because there's typically a clear medical timeline showing deterioration. The SSA has specific listings for chronic kidney disease (Section 6.02) that include criteria for creatinine clearance levels and need for dialysis. Your nephrologist's documentation will be crucial - make sure they document your current kidney function levels, prognosis, and how the condition limits your daily activities and work capacity. Since you're still under your FRA, you're in a good position to apply. The key is establishing that your kidney disease reached disabling levels before you reach full retirement age. Keep all your lab results and specialist reports - they'll be essential evidence for your case.

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Jessica, I wanted to add to what Amaya shared - kidney disease cases often have good outcomes with SSDI because the medical evidence is so objective. My brother-in-law went through this process two years ago when his kidney function dropped below 30%. The key things that helped his case were: 1) Regular lab work showing declining GFR over time, 2) Documentation from his nephrologist about fatigue and other symptoms affecting his work capacity, and 3) Records showing he was placed on the transplant waiting list. Since you're already working with a nephrologist who can document the progression, you're in a much better position than people trying to prove subjective pain conditions. The fact that dialysis is anticipated actually strengthens your case significantly - SSA recognizes dialysis as automatically disabling under their listings. Don't wait too long to apply though, since you need to establish the disability onset before your FRA. Good luck!

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I've been following this discussion as someone who went through a similar process recently. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of timing your application strategically. Since you're already 65 and receiving reduced retirement benefits, you have a limited window to apply for SSDI before reaching your full retirement age (which sounds like it's 66 and 6 months for you). What really helped in my case was filing the SSDI application as soon as possible after my diagnosis, even while I was still gathering medical records. SSA allows you to submit additional evidence after filing, but they can't backdate your application beyond when you actually filed. Given that you mentioned your health has "gotten much worse" since starting retirement benefits, you'll want to establish a clear timeline showing when your conditions became disabling. Also, don't be discouraged if you get conflicting information from different SSA representatives - this is unfortunately common with these crossover cases between retirement and disability. The policy is clear that you can apply, but not all front-line staff are familiar with these more complex situations. Stay persistent and document everything!

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Ev Luca

This is such valuable advice about the timing aspect! I'm actually in a very similar boat - turned 65 recently and started getting reduced retirement benefits, but my health situation has deteriorated significantly since then. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening because I honestly didn't even know this was an option. The part about not all SSA staff being familiar with these crossover cases really resonates - I called twice last month and got completely different answers from different representatives. One told me it was impossible, another said "maybe" but couldn't explain how it would work. It sounds like I need to be more persistent and maybe ask specifically to speak with someone who handles disability applications rather than just general customer service. Thank you for emphasizing the importance of filing quickly even while gathering records - I was thinking I needed everything perfect before applying but that could cost me precious time!

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