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Quick update to my earlier advice - when you file for unemployment, make sure to report that you've earned wages that weren't paid. There's a specific question about this in the application. This is important because TWC calculates your benefit amount based on your earnings, and you want those unpaid wages included. For your wage claim, you'll need to provide: - Your employment dates - Your regular pay rate - Hours worked that weren't paid - Names of managers/supervisors - Any written promises of payment And yes, file the unemployment claim ASAP because it can take 2-3 weeks for the first payment even after approval.

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Thank you for the detailed info. I have all of this documentation ready. I'm going to file both claims today. Really appreciate everyone's help with navigating this!

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I went through something similar with a roofing company in Houston. They kept giving me the runaround for 3 weeks about my final check. What finally worked was sending them a certified letter stating I would file a wage claim with TWC if payment wasn't received within 5 business days. Got my check 2 days later! But honestly, don't even waste time with that - just file both claims now like everyone said. The construction industry pulls this stuff all the time thinking workers won't know their rights. Also, when you file for unemployment, make sure to keep detailed records of your job search activities from day one. TWC can audit those records anytime.

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I DID take one of their training programs last month for basic accounting and it was actually pretty good! The instructor was knowledgeable and they provided certifications that look decent on a resume. So while you're definitely not required to go, they're not all bad if you actually want to learn something new. Just depends on your situation I guess.

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That's good to know! If my job search drags on for a few more months, maybe I'll consider adding some complementary skills. Did they have any business management courses for trades? That might actually be useful for eventually starting my own HVAC business.

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They had a small business essentials class that covered basic accounting, marketing and management stuff. Might be worth asking about if you're thinking of going independent eventually!

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I'm in a similar situation - got laid off from my manufacturing job 3 weeks ago and already had two of these "training opportunity" calls. The first specialist was pretty aggressive about enrolling me in some welding certification program, even though I've been welding for 8 years and have multiple certs already. What bothered me most was how they made it sound like I was missing out on some amazing opportunity that might not be available later. Classic sales pressure tactics! I politely declined and explained my experience level, but she kept pushing for like 10 minutes. Good to see everyone confirming these are totally optional. I'm sticking to my job search strategy and keeping detailed records like others suggested. Thanks for posting this question - clearly a lot of us are dealing with the same thing!

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Wow, that's exactly what happened to me! The "limited availability" pressure tactic is so annoying when you already have the skills they're trying to train you on. It's like they have a script they follow regardless of your background. I'm glad I trusted my instincts and declined - sounds like we're both handling this the right way by focusing on actual job opportunities instead of redundant training.

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Anyone else notice how they always deposit the money on weird days? Like never when you expect it lol. Sometimes its tuesday sometimes thursday... driving me nuts trying to budget!

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OMG YES! Last month they paid me on a Wednesday, then the next payment was Friday, now it's back to Wednesday. Pick a day and stick with it, TWC!! 🤦‍♀️

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Just wanted to add - once you start receiving payments, they usually come 2-3 business days after you request them (as long as you request on your assigned day). The exact day can vary like others mentioned, but it's typically within that timeframe. Also, your first payment might take a little longer since it's your first time in the system. Don't panic if it doesn't show up immediately! And definitely set up direct deposit if you haven't already - it's faster than waiting for a debit card to arrive in the mail.

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Just to add something important - your friend should gather any evidence of his job search efforts while this is being resolved. Texas currently requires 3 work search activities per week to remain eligible for benefits. Even though his claim is denied right now, if he wins the appeal, he'll need to prove he was doing the required work searches during this waiting period to receive backpay for those weeks. Have him document everything and keep screenshots of job applications.

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Thank you for mentioning this! He hasn't been doing work searches because he thought he needed to fix the denial first. I'll let him know he needs to start right away and keep records. Does registering on WorkInTexas.com count as one of the activities?

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Yes, initially registering on WorkInTexas.com counts as one work search activity, but only for the first week. After that, he needs 3 new activities every week (job applications, interviews, resume submissions, etc). Make sure he knows that for each activity he needs to record the date, company name, position, method of contact, and result.

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I work for a legal aid organization and see these employment verification denials all the time. A few additional things your friend should know: 1) He can request a copy of his entire TWC file through a Public Information Act request - this will show exactly what the employer told TWC when they were contacted. Sometimes employers give contradictory information that helps your case. 2) If he has any old work emails, employee handbook, name badge, uniform, or even photos of himself at work, include those with the appeal. Visual evidence can be very persuasive. 3) Consider having coworkers write brief affidavits (sworn statements) about his employment there. They don't have to testify at the hearing, but written statements under oath carry weight. 4) The employer's refusal to verify employment could actually constitute interference with unemployment benefits, which is illegal in Texas. Document every interaction he's had with them about this issue. The appeal hearing is his best shot - TWC hearing officers deal with dishonest employers regularly and know what to look for. With his W-2 and paystubs, he has a strong case. Good luck!

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This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the Public Information Act request - that could really expose if the employer is lying or being inconsistent. He definitely has some old work photos on his phone from company events and I think he still has his employee ID badge somewhere. The interference with unemployment benefits angle is interesting too. His former boss was pretty aggressive when he called asking for employment verification and basically told him to "stop bothering" them about it. Should he document that conversation somehow even though it already happened? Really appreciate you taking the time to share your expertise! This gives us a much clearer roadmap for building a strong case.

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this belongs in a social security forum not unemployment lol

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Fair point, but I thought people here might have experience with how TWC benefits specifically interact with Social Security. Seems like I was right since I got some helpful answers!

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I went through this same panic when I first started collecting unemployment last year! It's definitely confusing because you think "benefit = earnings" but that's not how Social Security works. What helped me feel better was logging into my SSA.gov account and seeing that all my previous work credits were still there - unemployment doesn't erase what you've already earned. One thing to keep in mind is that if you do any freelance or gig work while on partial unemployment (which TWC allows up to your weekly benefit amount), THAT income would count toward Social Security if you pay the self-employment taxes on it. So there are still ways to earn credits even while collecting benefits. Good luck with your job search!

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That's such a relief to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I was definitely in panic mode thinking I was somehow losing everything I'd built up. I hadn't thought about the gig work angle - that's actually a really good point about still being able to earn some credits while on partial unemployment. I might look into some freelance opportunities in my field while I'm job searching. Thanks for the encouragement and practical advice!

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