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my brother works for a home health agency and he says they do this ALL THE TIME because it saves them money on their unemployment insurance rates. they keep everyone on the books as "active" even when they have no work for them. total scam. definitely appeal and mention that you suspect this is why they're suddenly contacting you after months of silence.

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That's exactly what I suspect is happening. They never formally terminated me, but they also never offered me ANY work after my mother-in-law passed. Until I filed for unemployment, that is.

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this - it's incredibly frustrating when agencies pull this kind of stuff. I had a similar experience with a different type of caregiving situation. One thing that really helped me was getting a statement from someone who knew about the specific nature of your employment arrangement. Do you have any documentation from when your mother-in-law was receiving care that shows you were hired specifically as her family caregiver? Medical records, care plans, or even correspondence that mentions your relationship to the patient can be powerful evidence that this wasn't a general healthcare position. Also, if you can get any written confirmation of her passing date from hospice, hospital, or funeral home, that creates a clear endpoint for when your specific job duties ended. The fact that they waited until after your UC claim to suddenly offer work is really telling - make sure to screenshot and save every email they've sent you since filing. You've got a strong case here!

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Thank you so much Philip! I do have some of those documents - the original care plan from her oncologist that specifically names me as her primary caregiver, and I have the death certificate. I never thought about getting documentation from hospice but that's a great idea since they have records of me being listed as the family caregiver. I've been screenshotting all the emails from the agency since they started contacting me. It's just so obvious that the timing is suspicious - months of silence, then suddenly they're blowing up my inbox the day after I file for UC. Really appreciate the advice!

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glad it worked out for u! i swear the PA UC system just randomly throws old messages at us to see if we'll panic lol

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EXACTLY! They hope we'll just give up from confusion. The whole system is designed to make claiming benefits as frustrating as possible. I've been dealing with their broken website for THREE BENEFIT YEARS now and it never improves!!!

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So glad you were able to figure this out! This is exactly why I always tell people to screenshot EVERYTHING with PA UC - their system glitches are notorious for causing panic attacks over old determinations that randomly resurface. For anyone else who might face this issue: always check the actual date stamps on messages, not just when they appear in your dashboard. The PA system has a habit of "refreshing" old notices during maintenance cycles, making them appear new when they're not. Emma, definitely keep that Statement of Benefits PDF saved locally and maybe print a copy too. PA UC has a tendency to make documents mysteriously disappear from dashboards during "system updates." You've got solid proof now that your appeal decision is still valid and active.

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Just wanted to update - my payment finally went through this morning. Seems like it was just the holiday delay. Everyone else get theirs?

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Yep, got mine yesterday afternoon finally! And I took everyone's advice and switched to direct deposit for future payments to avoid these kinds of delays. Thanks everyone for the help and reassurance!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I was starting to freak out because my payment didn't come through yesterday like usual either. Reading everyone's experiences with the Presidents Day delay makes me feel so much better. I had no idea federal holidays could mess with the timing like that. Going to download that Money Network app right now so I get notifications, and definitely looking into switching to direct deposit after this. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it really helps to know you're not alone when these delays happen!

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I used to work as a paralegal helping with UC appeals, and I've seen these cases go both ways. The deciding factor is usually whether the claimant can prove they remained able and available for full-time work despite the freelance activities. Bring a detailed calendar showing when your husband did the freelance work versus when he was job searching, interviewing, etc. Also, if the consulting work was in any way different from his regular occupation (different skills, industry, etc.), make sure to emphasize that. Good luck!

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This is great advice! His consulting was in the same industry but different role - he was doing project planning rather than hands-on manufacturing work. We'll definitely create a calendar showing how limited the consulting hours were compared to his job search activities.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now - got laid off from my retail job in January and have been doing some freelance graphic design work while job hunting. I've been reporting everything but now I'm terrified they'll come after me too! This thread is super helpful though. I didn't realize there was such a specific distinction between "sideline work" and "self-employment" in PA's eyes. Quick question for those who've been through appeals - about how long does the whole process take? I'm worried if I get hit with an overpayment notice, how much time I'd have to prepare a defense. Also, does anyone know if you can get a lawyer for these hearings or is it mostly just you representing yourself? Really hoping your appeal goes well OP! The fact that your husband reported everything and was actively job searching should work in your favor.

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Hey Alberto! From what I've seen in other threads, the appeal process usually takes 4-6 weeks from when you file to when you get a hearing date. You typically have 15 days from the overpayment notice to file your appeal, so don't wait if you get one. You can absolutely have a lawyer represent you at UC hearings, but most people represent themselves since the hearings are designed to be accessible. Some people hire employment lawyers just for consultation to help prepare their case rather than full representation. Since you're doing graphic design (which sounds pretty different from retail work), you might have a good argument that it's truly sideline work. Just make sure you're documenting your job search efforts really well - applications, interviews, networking, etc. That seems to be key from all the advice in this thread!

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my cousin said just ignore it they cant really do anything lol

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This is TERRIBLE advice. PA UC can and will garnish wages, take tax refunds, add penalties and interest, and even put liens on property. Ignoring an overpayment notice is one of the worst things you can do.

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Update: I filed my appeal online yesterday and requested a breakdown of the overpayment calculation. I also found the waiver form and am filling that out as a backup in case the appeal doesn't work. I'm still stressed but feeling a bit more in control now. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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You're doing all the right things! Make sure you keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit and send everything certified mail if possible. Document every phone call too (date, time, who you spoke with). When is your appeal hearing scheduled for?

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