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NY unemployment claim shows 44 days left after certifying but math doesn't add up - help?

I just certified for my NY unemployment benefits and noticed something strange with my remaining days. Before certifying I had 48 days left on my claim, but after certifying it only dropped to 44 days. Shouldn't it have gone down by 5 days instead of 4? I'm confused about how many actual weeks I have left. Does anyone know how to calculate this correctly? The system shows days not weeks which is making this even more confusing.

maybe u certified late in the week? sometimes the counting gets weird if u dont do it on the right day

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I certified on Sunday like I always do. That's what makes it so confusing.

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This is actually normal. NY unemployment counts in effective days, not calendar days. Each week you claim reduces your balance by 4 effective days, not 5 or 7. Think of it as 4 effective days = 1 week of benefits. So with 44 days remaining, you have 11 weeks of benefits left (44 ÷ 4 = 11). Hope that helps!

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Thank you! That makes so much more sense now. I was thinking it was counting all 7 days of the week. So when they say I have a 26-week benefit period, that's actually 104 effective days?

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Exactly! A standard 26-week benefit period equals 104 effective days (26 × 4). The system is confusing at first, but once you understand the 4-day counting method, it gets easier to track.

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I had the EXACT same question when I first started collecting!! I was counting wrong for weeks and panicking about when my benefits would run out lol. Don't worry about it.

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The NY unemployment system is DELIBERATELY CONFUSING!!! They do this on purpose to trip people up and deny benefits. I had the same issue and when I tried calling to ask about it I couldn't even get through to anyone for THREE WEEKS. By then I had a job interview and didn't even need the answer anymore. The whole system is broken!!!

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wait but this is super confusingto me still. so if its 4 days = 1 week, but a week has 7 days...where do the other 3 days go?? are they just not counting weekends or something?

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It's not about calendar days. "Effective days" is just how NY unemployment measures benefits. Think of it like this: 1 effective day = 1/4 of your weekly benefit amount. So when you certify for a full week, you use 4 effective days and get your full weekly amount. It's just the accounting system they use.

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So I went through exactly this last year and actually ended up getting a very detailed explanation when I finally spoke to a tier 2 specialist. Here's how it works: NY unemployment benefits are calculated using "effective days" which is a term that goes back decades in the system. Each effective day equals 1/4 of your weekly benefit amount. When you certify for a full week, you use 4 effective days. If you work part-time during a week, they reduce the effective days based on how much you earned: - If you work 1 day, they reduce by 1 effective day (you get 3/4 of weekly benefit) - If you work 2 days, they reduce by 2 effective days (you get 1/2 of weekly benefit) - If you work 3 days, they reduce by 3 effective days (you get 1/4 of weekly benefit) - If you work 4+ days OR earn more than your benefit rate, you get 0 effective days (no payment) Your 44 days = 11 full weeks of benefits remaining.

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This explanation is super helpful, thank you! So if I were to work 1 day next week, they would only deduct 3 effective days instead of 4?

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That's correct! If you work 1 day in a week, they'll only deduct 3 effective days from your remaining balance, and you'll receive 3/4 of your weekly benefit amount for that week.

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My friend had this same problem last month and she ended up having to go to the office in person to get it sorted out. Turns out there was some kind of glitch in her account that was counting wrong. Not saying that's what's happening to you but might be worth checking into if the numbers still don't add up after what everyone else is saying.

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I think the explanation about effective days makes sense in my case, but good to know about potential glitches. How long did your friend have to wait at the office?

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Oh she was there FOREVER. Like 3.5 hours. She said next time she'd make an appointment first. But they did fix whatever was wrong.

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wait i just realized something totally different - are u on regular unemployment or some other kind? cuz the rules r different depending on which program ur in

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I'm on regular UI. Just started my claim about 8 weeks ago.

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ok then yea its the 4 day thing everyone else said

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One more thing to keep in mind - when you're getting close to the end of your benefits (like your last 2-3 weeks), make sure you start looking into whether you qualify for an extension. The process takes time and you don't want a gap in payments if you're still unemployed. Even with 11 weeks left, it's good to keep this on your radar.

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That's great advice, thanks! Do you know what the current extension options are in NY for 2025? I'm hoping to find work before then but want to be prepared.

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In 2025, NY offers Extended Benefits (EB) if the state unemployment rate is high enough to trigger it. There's also the possibility of applying for Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) if your job was lost due to foreign trade. Check the NY DOL website about 3-4 weeks before your benefits end for the most current information, as these programs can change.

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm new to NY unemployment and was also confused about the effective days system. Just to clarify - if I have 72 effective days remaining on my claim, that means I have 18 weeks of benefits left (72 ÷ 4 = 18), right? And this applies even if I'm doing partial work some weeks? I want to make sure I'm tracking this correctly for my own budgeting.

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Yes, that's exactly right! 72 effective days = 18 weeks of benefits. And yes, this calculation holds true even with partial work weeks. If you work part-time during any week, they'll just deduct fewer effective days from your balance (like 1-3 days instead of the full 4), so your benefits will actually last longer than 18 weeks. It's smart that you're tracking this for budgeting - I wish I had done that from the start!

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Just want to echo what everyone else has said - the effective days system is definitely confusing at first! I went through the same thing when I started my claim a few months ago. The key thing to remember is that NY uses this 4 effective days = 1 week system for ALL unemployment programs, so once you get used to it, everything makes sense. One tip that helped me: I created a simple spreadsheet to track my remaining effective days after each certification. It really helped with budgeting and planning. Also, if you ever need to call the unemployment office, try calling right when they open at 8 AM - I've had better luck getting through then rather than later in the day.

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That's a really smart idea about the spreadsheet! I'm definitely going to set one up now. And thanks for the tip about calling at 8 AM - I've been trying to reach them during lunch breaks and never get through. It's amazing how much clearer this whole effective days thing becomes once you understand the 4-day calculation. I was panicking thinking I only had like 6 weeks left when I actually have 11!

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I was confused about my remaining days. I had 52 days showing after my last certification and couldn't figure out if that meant 7 weeks or what. Now I understand it's 13 weeks (52 ÷ 4 = 13). Quick question though - does anyone know if the effective days system applies the same way if you're on Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) or is that calculated differently? I have a friend who might be switching from regular UI to PUA and we want to make sure we understand how her remaining benefits would be calculated. Also, @Maria Gonzalez, would you be willing to share a template of that spreadsheet you mentioned? That sounds like exactly what I need to stay organized!

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Hi Sebastian! Yes, you're absolutely right - 52 effective days = 13 weeks of benefits. Regarding PUA, it actually uses the same effective days calculation system as regular UI in New York. So if your friend switches from regular UI to PUA, her remaining benefits would still be calculated the same way (4 effective days = 1 week). The main differences with PUA are eligibility requirements and documentation needs, but the day-counting system stays consistent across all NY unemployment programs. As for the spreadsheet template, I'd be happy to help! I keep it really simple - just columns for: Date Certified, Effective Days Used, Remaining Balance, and Weekly Benefit Amount. You could also add a column for any part-time work to track when you use fewer than 4 days. It's been a lifesaver for planning my finances during this whole process.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm new to NY unemployment and had no idea about the effective days system. I was doing the same math in my head - thinking a week should equal 7 days, not 4. It's really reassuring to see that this confusion is totally normal and that there's actually a logical system behind it. I have 36 effective days remaining on my claim, which if I'm understanding correctly means I have 9 weeks left (36 ÷ 4 = 9). Is that right? I'm also curious - does this 4-day system date back to when unemployment benefits were originally created, or is it something NY adopted more recently? The history behind these systems is always interesting to me. Thanks everyone for breaking this down so clearly!

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! 36 effective days = 9 weeks of benefits remaining. As for the history, the effective days system actually goes way back - it was part of the original federal unemployment insurance framework from the 1930s. The idea was to create a standardized way to measure partial benefits when people worked part-time during their claim period. Instead of trying to calculate complex percentages for every possible work scenario, they created this 4-day system where each "effective day" represents 25% of your weekly benefit amount. New York has been using this system since the state unemployment program began, so it's definitely not new - just poorly explained to claimants! Most people figure it out the same way you did, by asking questions in forums like this one. It really should be better explained upfront when you start your claim.

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Wow, this thread is exactly what I needed! I just started collecting unemployment in NY last week and was completely baffled when I saw my balance went from 104 days to 100 days after certifying. I thought there was an error in the system and was planning to call (though from what I'm reading here, good luck getting through!). The effective days explanation makes perfect sense now - 4 effective days per week means I have 25 weeks of benefits (100 ÷ 4 = 25). What a relief! I was calculating it as calendar days and thought I only had about 14 weeks left. This is definitely something they should explain better when you first file. The whole process is stressful enough without having to decode their counting system. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is a lifesaver for navigating NY unemployment!

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I'm so glad this thread helped you too! I was in the exact same boat when I first started - seeing those numbers drop and thinking something was wrong with the system. The 4 effective days thing really should be explained upfront, maybe even with a simple example showing how 104 days = 26 weeks. It would save so much confusion and stress for new claimants. At least now you know you have 25 weeks to work with, which is much better than the 14 weeks you were worried about! This community really has been amazing for figuring out all these quirks in the NY system.

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This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm currently collecting NY unemployment and had the exact same confusion about the day counting system. I was so worried I was calculating my remaining benefits wrong. I have 80 effective days left, which means I have 20 weeks of benefits remaining (80 ÷ 4 = 20). It's such a relief to finally understand this system! I was literally losing sleep thinking I only had about 11-12 weeks left based on calendar days. One thing I'm still curious about - when you're doing the weekly certification online, does the system show you exactly how many effective days were deducted after you submit? I haven't been paying close attention but want to start tracking this more carefully now that I understand how it works. Thanks everyone for making this so much clearer. The NY unemployment system really needs better documentation about this effective days concept!

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Yes, you're absolutely right - 80 effective days = 20 weeks! And to answer your question about tracking the deductions, the online system does show your updated balance after you submit your certification, but it doesn't explicitly say "X effective days were deducted this week." You have to do the math yourself by comparing your balance before and after certifying. I started writing down my balance before certifying each week so I could track the deductions - it really helps you see the pattern and catch any potential errors. It's frustrating that such basic information isn't displayed more clearly, but at least now you know what to look for!

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I'm so grateful I found this thread! I just filed my first NY unemployment claim two weeks ago and was completely panicked when I saw my balance go from 104 days to 96 days after two certifications. I was calculating it like calendar days and thought I was burning through benefits way too fast. Now I understand it's the 4 effective days system - so 96 days means I still have 24 weeks left (96 ÷ 4 = 24), not the 13-14 weeks I was terrified about! This is such a relief. It's honestly criminal how poorly this is explained when you first apply. I spent hours on the NY DOL website trying to find information about how the day counting works and found nothing clear. Thank goodness for communities like this where people actually explain these things in plain English. I'm definitely going to start that spreadsheet tracking system that was mentioned earlier. Has anyone else noticed other confusing aspects of the NY system that aren't well explained? I want to make sure I don't run into any other surprises!

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