Would I have to use up $3k in capital loss carried forward if I have zero income?

This is a really good question about capital loss carryovers in a zero-income situation. When you have a capital loss carryover from previous years, the IRS allows you to deduct up to $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing separately) against ordinary income each year. The key point is that this is a "can deduct" situation, not a "must deduct" situation. If you have no income to offset in the current year, you shouldn't be forced to use up the $3,000 deduction. On Schedule D, when completing line 21, you should only be entering the lesser of line 16 or $3,000. If you have no ordinary income to offset (like in your situation), you can enter $0 instead of $3,000. The entire capital loss should continue to carry forward to future tax years. The purpose of the tax code here is to benefit taxpayers by allowing them to offset income, not to force them to use up tax benefits when there's no advantage to doing so.

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Just to add a bit more technical detail to this discussion - the issue is that Schedule D and Form 1040 aren't really designed with your situation in mind. The forms assume you have some income to offset. When you have no income, technically you're supposed to still claim the $3,000 deduction on your return, but then separately track that you didn't actually receive a tax benefit from it. This is called the "tax benefit rule." In future years when you do have income, you can essentially "reclaim" that $3,000 that didn't actually benefit you. However, this requires extremely careful record-keeping and documentation with your returns.

Has anyone actually gone through an IRS audit with this situation? I'm worried about taking this approach and then getting flagged for audit because the IRS system doesn't understand what I'm trying to do. I mean, technically we're following the rules, but it seems like we're doing something the forms weren't designed for. Just wondering if anyone has real experience with how the IRS handles this in practice.

I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm in a very similar situation as an expat with capital loss carryforwards. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like there are multiple valid approaches, but they all require very careful documentation. One thing I'm noticing is that everyone seems to agree on the importance of creating a clear paper trail with detailed statements attached to your returns. Whether you use the tax benefit rule approach that Lydia mentioned, or preserve the full loss with an explanatory statement like others have suggested, the key seems to be transparency with the IRS about what you're doing and why. I'm leaning toward calling the IRS directly using that Claimyr service several people mentioned to get official guidance for my specific situation. It seems like getting confirmation directly from an IRS agent would give me the most confidence in whatever approach I choose. Has anyone found specific IRS publications or guidance documents that address this scenario? I'd love to have some official written guidance to reference in addition to the verbal confirmation from phone calls.