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Honestly, don't touch your retirement money if you can avoid it. I withdrew $15k from my 401k for school 5 years ago and I MASSIVELY regret it. That $15k would be worth almost $25k now with market growth. Plus I paid about $5k in taxes and penalties, so the real cost was like $30k for my $15k tuition. I'm now playing catch-up with my retirement and it sucks. Look into Pell grants, scholarships for returning students, payment plans, or even a 0% intro APR credit card if you can pay it off within the promo period.
This. Time in the market is so valuable. Each dollar you take out now could be worth $5-10 by retirement age. I'd add that many community colleges have payment plans where you can pay monthly without any loans or interest. Also worth checking if your employer has any education benefits - many companies offer tuition assistance up to $5,250 tax-free per year.
Michael, before you make any withdrawals, I'd strongly recommend checking with your school's financial aid office first. Many universities have emergency aid funds, work-study programs, or payment plans that could help bridge the gap without touching your retirement savings. Also, since you're 29 and returning to school, you might qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit which can give you up to $2,000 back on your taxes for qualified education expenses. If you do end up needing to access your 401k, the rollover to IRA strategy mentioned above is definitely the way to go to avoid that 10% penalty. One more thing - have you looked into whether your state offers any grants for adult learners returning to school? Many states have programs specifically for people in your situation that don't require repayment.
These codes got me stressing so hard I started dreaming in numbers 𤣠The IRS needs to make this stuff easier to understand for regular folks istg
Been dealing with these codes for months and finally figured it out! Code 290 = they're adding tax/adjustments to your account (bad news usually), Code 291 = they're reducing/removing previous assessments (good news!). If you see both, it means they made an adjustment then partially or fully reversed it. The key is looking at the dates and amounts to see the timeline. Pro tip: the cycle dates next to these codes tell you when each action happened, so you can follow the story of what the IRS did to your return š
This is a great point about framing the negotiation properly. I'd add that your friend should also consider the timing element here - if the business continues operating with losses, that sweat equity partner will keep receiving negative K-1s that could complicate their personal tax situation. Another angle to consider: since this partner never contributed cash, they likely don't have sufficient "basis" to deduct all the losses that have been allocated to them anyway. This means they may have suspended losses on their personal return that they can't currently use. A clean exit might actually be more valuable to them than continuing to accumulate unusable tax losses. Your friend might want to get a tax professional to calculate what the partner's actual tax basis is versus their capital account balance. These are often very different numbers, and the basis calculation might show that the partner's economic position isn't as strong as the capital account balance suggests. The key is documenting everything properly so the buyout is structured in a way that's defensible to the IRS and fair to all parties involved.
This is exactly the kind of analysis that gets overlooked in these situations! The distinction between capital account balance and tax basis is crucial here. Most people assume they're the same, but they can diverge significantly, especially when losses exceed a partner's actual economic investment. For a sweat equity partner who never put in cash, their initial basis would typically be just the value of services they contributed (if any was recognized as income). All those allocated losses over the years may have created suspended losses they can't even use on their personal returns. Maya's point about timing is spot-on too. If the business keeps losing money, this partner will keep getting hit with K-1s showing more losses they probably can't deduct. A buyout that lets them exit cleanly - even for less than the "full" negative capital account - might actually improve their overall tax situation. Has anyone dealt with a situation where the suspended losses actually made the partner MORE willing to accept a lower buyout amount? I'm curious if that leverage point has been effective in similar negotiations.
I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times, and the suspended loss angle is absolutely critical leverage that most people miss. In one case, we had a sweat equity partner with a $85k negative capital account who was demanding full payment. When we calculated their actual tax basis (which was essentially zero since they never contributed cash), we discovered they had over $70k in suspended losses sitting on their personal return that they couldn't use. We presented this analysis showing that continued partnership ownership would likely generate more unusable losses, while a buyout - even at a significantly reduced amount - would allow them to trigger some of those suspended losses as a capital loss on the sale of their partnership interest. The partner ended up accepting a $15k settlement because they realized the alternative was continuing to receive K-1s with losses they couldn't deduct, plus the complexity of tracking suspended losses for potentially years. The key is getting a tax professional to run the numbers on both the capital account AND the tax basis/suspended loss calculation. Often the partner's actual economic position is much weaker than the capital account suggests, especially when they never contributed actual capital but have been allocated years of losses. This analysis completely changes the negotiation dynamic and often leads to much more reasonable settlement amounts.
This suspended loss analysis is brilliant and something I never would have thought to consider! As someone new to partnership taxation, can you explain how exactly the suspended losses would get triggered in a buyout scenario? Also, when you presented this analysis to the partner, did you need to show them their actual personal tax returns to prove the suspended loss situation, or were you able to demonstrate this just from the partnership records? I'm trying to understand how to build this kind of leverage analysis without overstepping boundaries in terms of accessing someone's personal tax information. The $85k to $15k settlement is a huge difference - that kind of analysis could save the original poster's friend tens of thousands of dollars if applied correctly to their situation.
Just want to point out that for 2024, the threshold for payment apps to send 1099-Ks is $5,000, not the $600 threshold they were initially planning. So depending on how much you paid your babysitter, they might not even get a 1099-K from Venmo at all. Also, make sure your payroll service marked these payments as household employee wages, not independent contractor payments. That classification makes a big difference in how everything is handled tax-wise.
Thanks for mentioning the threshold change! Our total payments were about $4,200 so maybe this won't even be an issue? And yes, our payroll service definitely has her classified as a household employee with all the proper withholding. I was just panicking about the potential for confusion if she got both forms.
If your total payments were $4,200, then you should be under the current $5,000 threshold for 2024, so Venmo likely won't issue a 1099-K at all. This threshold has been a moving target - it was supposed to drop to $600 but they pushed it back again. Even if a 1099-K is issued erroneously, the advice others have given about how to handle it on the tax return is solid. Since you've properly classified her as a household employee and are handling withholding correctly, you've done everything right. The paper trail from your payroll service will make it clear these aren't self-employment earnings if there's ever any question.
Does anyone know if this impacts household employees who didn't receive a W-2? I paid my house cleaner through Venmo all year (about $6,000 total) but didn't use a payroll service. Now I'm worried they'll get a 1099-K and have to pay self-employment taxes when they're technically a household employee.
You've actually identified a different issue. If you paid someone $2,400 or more in 2024 as a household employee, you're required to provide a W-2 and pay employer taxes. Without the payroll service, you should have been handling this yourself by getting an EIN, filing Schedule H with your return, etc. Since you didn't treat them as a household employee for tax purposes, they will indeed likely be classified as self-employed based on the 1099-K they'll receive from Venmo (since you exceeded the $5,000 threshold). At this point, they will need to pay self-employment taxes.
@e6cbb7815e22 You may want to consider consulting with a tax professional about potentially filing a corrected return or amended paperwork to properly classify your house cleaner as a household employee retroactively. While it's more complicated now, it might save your cleaner from having to pay the full self-employment tax burden. You could still file Schedule H with your 2024 return to report the household employee wages and pay the employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes. You'd also need to issue a W-2 (even though it's late) and potentially pay some penalties, but this could be much less costly for your cleaner than them having to pay both the employee and employer portions of Social Security/Medicare taxes as self-employed. The key question is whether correcting this classification now would be worth the penalty fees versus having your cleaner pay the higher self-employment taxes. A tax professional familiar with household employee rules could help you run the numbers.
Paolo Conti
Has anyone had experience with using 529 funds for required technology purchases? My program requires us to have specific software and a laptop meeting certain specifications. Are these definitely qualified expenses?
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Dmitry Volkov
ā¢Yes, computers, software, and related technology are qualified 529 expenses IF they're used primarily for educational purposes during your enrollment. This was officially added to the qualified expense list in 2015 with the PATH Act. Just make sure you keep documentation showing the technology is required or recommended by your program, or at minimum, demonstrate how it's necessary for your coursework. Save the purchase receipts and any emails or documents from your school mentioning technology requirements.
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Paolo Conti
ā¢Thanks! That's a relief. My program actually sent us a detailed "required technology specifications" document, so I'll definitely save that along with my purchase receipts. Good to know the PATH Act explicitly added this - gives me more confidence when using my 529 funds for these purchases.
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Isabella Ferreira
Just wanted to add another important consideration for your 529 planning - make sure you understand the "enrolled at least half-time" requirement for room and board expenses. The IRS requires you to be enrolled at least half-time at an eligible institution for housing and food costs to qualify as 529 expenses. Also, regarding your security system question - while utilities like water and electricity are generally accepted as part of housing costs, security systems fall into more of a gray area since they're not essential utilities. I'd be conservative with that one unless you can show it's required by your lease or building management. For meal expenses, stick to reasonable grocery costs and occasional dining out. The key word is "reasonable" - the IRS looks at whether your food expenses align with what a typical student would spend in your area. Keep your receipts organized by month so you can track whether you're staying within your school's meal allowance limits.
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Noah Ali
ā¢This is really helpful information about the half-time enrollment requirement! I hadn't considered that aspect. Quick question - does "half-time" have a specific credit hour definition, or does it vary by school? My program has some flexibility in course load, so I want to make sure I stay above whatever threshold is required. Also, regarding the security system expense, you're probably right about being conservative. I think I'll skip using 529 funds for that and stick to the clearly qualifying expenses like rent and utilities. Better safe than sorry when it comes to potential penalties. The meal expense guidance is spot on too. I'll track my food spending monthly and compare it to my school's published meal plan costs to make sure I'm staying reasonable. Thanks for the practical advice!
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