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Seraphina Delan

Do W2 Tax Estimators Include Money Already Withheld from My Paycheck?

I'm trying to evaluate job offers between several W2 positions after being self-employed with substantial tax write-offs for years. I've created a spreadsheet to compare incomes, but I'm confused about how W2 taxes work compared to self-employment. When I use online tax estimator tools like NerdWallet or TurboTax and input all my details, I get annual tax estimates, but I'm not sure how to interpret them: 1. Do these tax estimator tools show the TOTAL amount of tax I'll owe for the entire year? 2. Or are they showing what I'll owe BEYOND what's already being withheld from each paycheck? 3. If it's the total annual tax, and my employer withholds more than this amount over the year, would I get a refund for the difference? How exactly does that work? Any additional insights would be super helpful! Creating this comparison calculator between self-employment and W2 income has been way more complicated than I expected. I want to make sure I'm making an apples-to-apples comparison of my take-home pay in both scenarios.

Jabari-Jo

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Those tax estimators typically show your TOTAL tax liability for the year. This is the complete amount you'll owe the IRS, regardless of withholdings. Your employer will withhold estimated taxes from each paycheck based on your W-4 form. At the end of the year, if your employer withheld more than your actual tax liability, you'll get a refund. If they withheld less, you'll need to pay the difference when you file. For comparison purposes, remember that with W2 employment, your employer pays half of your FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare), which is about 7.65% of your income. As a self-employed person, you're paying the full 15.3% yourself, which is a significant difference.

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Thank you for explaining! So if I understand correctly, if the tax estimator says I'll owe $15,000 for the year, and my employer ends up withholding $18,000 total from my paychecks, I'd get a $3,000 refund? Also, should I be accounting for the employer's portion of FICA as an "invisible benefit" when comparing W2 to self-employment income?

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Jabari-Jo

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Yes, exactly! If the estimator shows $15,000 in total tax liability and your employer withholds $18,000 throughout the year, you'd receive a $3,000 refund when you file. Absolutely consider the employer portion of FICA as a benefit when comparing. When self-employed, you're paying the full 15.3% (though you can deduct half on your taxes). With W2 employment, you only pay 7.65% directly, with your employer covering the other 7.65%. It's definitely an "invisible benefit" worth factoring into your calculations.

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Marcus Marsh

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Another thing to consider when comparing income: health insurance costs! When self-employed, you can deduct your entire premium on Schedule 1, but as a W2 employee, you typically pay your portion with pre-tax dollars if it's an employer plan. Run the numbers both ways - sometimes the self-employment health insurance deduction is more valuable than you'd think, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket.

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That's really helpful! Do retirement contributions work similarly between the two? With self-employment I've been using a SEP IRA, but I know W2 jobs often have 401ks with matching.

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Marcus Marsh

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Retirement contributions have some important differences. With self-employment, SEP IRAs let you contribute up to 25% of your net earnings, potentially much more than the employee contribution limits for a 401(k). However, employer matching on 401(k)s is essentially free money that you don't get when self-employed. Even a modest 3-5% match can be worth thousands annually. Plus, some employers offer additional profit sharing that can greatly increase total retirement savings. I'd pay special attention to the vesting schedule for any potential employer match - some companies require several years of employment before the match is fully yours.

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I was in your exact situation 2 years ago! One thing those calculators almost never account for properly: state taxes and how they interact with federal deductions. Make sure to run state-specific calculations too, especially if you're considering jobs in different states. Some states don't tax certain types of income or have weird rules about W2 vs self-employment.

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Cedric Chung

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Good point! I live in Texas (no state income tax) but was considering a remote position for a California company. Do you know if that means I'd have to pay CA state taxes even though I don't live there?

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