How to Correctly Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator for Bonuses and Back Pay
I'm hoping someone can help me with some questions about the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator. In 2024, I got a large bonus ($8,500) and some back pay ($7,200) in separate paychecks. For those two checks, I reduced my withholding but still had a small federal amount taken out. Now I need to change my withholding back to normal. Before these special payments, I claimed 0 allowances and had extra money withheld on each check (I prefer getting a refund rather than owing!). I plan to leave line 4b blank on my W-4 to maximize withholding, but I'm not sure what amount to put as additional withholding per paycheck. I have specific questions about using the estimator tool: - Should I enter gross or net pay for the "pay per period/YTD" section? - For the bonus section, do I enter the combined total of my bonus and back pay together? - I itemize deductions but don't know exactly what my mortgage interest will be for 2024 - is it okay to use my 2023 amount as an estimate? I'm freaking out because I ran the estimator using my gross pay and entered the total bonus/back pay in the bonus section, and it showed I'll owe over $9,000! Am I doing something wrong? This would mean I need an extra $350+ withheld from each paycheck just to break even. (I get paid biweekly and file as Single) Let me know if you need more info. Any help would be SO appreciated!
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Lim Wong
The IRS Withholding Estimator can definitely be tricky to navigate, especially with bonuses and back pay in the mix! Let me address your questions one by one. For "pay per period/YTD," you should always use your gross pay (before any deductions). This gives the estimator an accurate picture of your total income. Regarding bonuses and back pay, yes, you should put the total combined amount ($15,700) in the bonus section. The estimator treats these special payments differently from regular income since they're typically withheld at a flat rate. Using your 2023 mortgage interest as an estimate for 2024 is perfectly reasonable. Unless you've significantly changed your mortgage situation, last year's figures should be close enough for a good estimate. If the estimator is showing you'll owe $9,000, there might be something off in your inputs. Double-check that you've correctly entered all withholding that's already happened this year. Also, make sure you've included all tax credits you qualify for, as these can significantly reduce your tax liability.
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Dananyl Lear
•Thanks for the info! What about retirement contributions? Do those go in as pre-tax deductions? And what about HSA contributions? I had the same problem when I tried using the estimator and it said I'd owe thousands even though I've never owed before.
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Lim Wong
•Yes, both 401(k)/retirement plan contributions and HSA contributions should be entered as pre-tax deductions in the estimator. These reduce your taxable income significantly. For the HSA, make sure you're entering the full annual contribution amount you plan to make. Many people miss this and it can make a big difference in the calculation. Also, double-check that you've correctly entered all federal income tax already withheld year-to-date from your paystubs - this is often where the biggest errors happen.
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Noah huntAce420
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Ana Rusula
•Does it work if you have multiple jobs? My wife and I both work and I do some side gig stuff too. IRS calculator is a nightmare for this scenario. And does it actually tell you what to put on your W-4 or is it just general advice?
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Fidel Carson
•I'm skeptical... is this actually worth it? The IRS tool is free and I'm hesitant to share my pay info with some random site. What makes it better than just talking to an accountant?
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Noah huntAce420
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Fidel Carson
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Isaiah Sanders
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Xan Dae
•How does this actually work? Seems too good to be true that they can get you through when the IRS lines are so backed up. Do they just keep calling for you or something?
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Fiona Gallagher
•This sounds like a complete scam. There's no way some third-party service has a special line to the IRS. They're probably just charging people for something anyone could do themselves. I'll stick to waiting on hold like everyone else.
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Isaiah Sanders
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Fiona Gallagher
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Thais Soares
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your bonus and back pay were already paid in 2024 with some withholding, and your regular paycheck withholding was normal until you changed it, you might not need to withhold as much extra as the calculator is showing. The supplemental wage withholding rate is 22% federally. If your bonus+backpay had at least that percentage withheld, you're probably not as far behind as you think. The IRS calculator sometimes gets confused with timing of one-time payments. What might help: try running the calculator again but don't enter the bonus/back pay as separate items. Instead, just make sure they're included in your YTD earnings and YTD withholding totals.
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Kai Santiago
•That's a really helpful suggestion - I didn't realize the calculator might be counting my bonus twice! So to clarify, I should just make sure my YTD earnings include the bonus/back pay amounts, and also make sure the YTD withholding includes what was taken out of those special payments? Then I shouldn't select the separate "I received a bonus" option?
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Thais Soares
•Exactly right. Include the bonus and back pay in your YTD earnings and the withholding from them in your YTD withholding, but don't also enter them separately in the bonus section. That's likely causing the calculator to essentially count them twice. This is especially true if your bonus/back pay already had the standard 22% supplemental wage withholding applied. The calculator is probably assuming you received this money but had no withholding on it, which would explain the large amount it says you need to withhold going forward.
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Nalani Liu
Has anyone used the IRS2Go app for checking refund status? Wondering if its worth downloading or just another headache??
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Axel Bourke
•IRS2Go is actually pretty decent for checking refund status - simple interface and usually accurate. But it won't help with withholding calculations like what OP is asking about. For that you still need to use the web-based withholding estimator on the IRS website.
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Taylor Chen
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with a large bonus and back pay! The key insight from @Thais Soares is spot on - the IRS calculator often double-counts bonuses if you enter them both in your YTD totals AND in the separate bonus section. Here's what worked for me: I only included my bonus/back pay in the YTD earnings and YTD withholding amounts, but left the bonus section blank. This gave me a much more realistic picture of what I actually owed. Also, since you mentioned you prefer getting a refund rather than owing - consider that bonuses are typically withheld at the 22% supplemental rate, which might actually be higher than your regular tax bracket. If you had ANY federal withholding on those special payments, you're probably in better shape than the calculator initially showed. One more tip: make sure you're entering your 401k, HSA, and other pre-tax deductions correctly. These can significantly reduce your tax liability, especially when you have a higher income year due to bonuses. Don't panic about the $9,000 figure - that's almost certainly an error in how the data was entered. Try the method @Thais suggested and I bet you'll see a much more reasonable number!
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TillyCombatwarrior
•This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed! Thank you @Taylor Chen and @Thais Soares for clarifying the double-counting issue. I m going'to try entering my bonus and back pay only in the YTD totals and skip the separate bonus section entirely. You re right'that I did have federal withholding on both payments - not a ton, but definitely something. And I do max out my 401k and contribute to an HSA, so hopefully those pre-tax deductions will help bring down that scary $9,000 figure. I ll report'back once I re-run the calculator with the corrected method. Fingers crossed it shows something much more manageable!
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Ev Luca
I just wanted to add another perspective as someone who works in payroll - the confusion you're experiencing with the IRS withholding estimator is incredibly common, especially when bonuses are involved. One thing that might help is understanding that when you received your bonus and back pay, your payroll system likely treated them as "supplemental wages" and withheld at the flat 22% rate (or possibly used the aggregate method if they were combined with regular pay). This is actually separate from your regular withholding calculation. The issue many people run into with the estimator is that it's trying to project your entire year's tax situation, but it can get confused when you have irregular payments that were already subject to different withholding rules. Before making any drastic changes to your W-4, I'd suggest running the numbers one more time using the method @Thais Soares and @Taylor Chen mentioned - include everything in your YTD totals but don't double-enter the bonus. Also, grab your most recent paystub and make absolutely sure you're entering your year-to-date federal withholding correctly, including what was taken from those special payments. If you're still getting scary numbers after that, it might be worth having a tax professional take a quick look at your situation. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes can spot an input error that's throwing everything off.
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Mei Wong
•This is really helpful context from a payroll perspective! I hadn't thought about the supplemental wage withholding being separate from my regular calculations. That definitely explains some of the confusion I've been having. I'm going to try the corrected method everyone's suggesting - including my bonus and back pay only in YTD totals without double-entering. It's reassuring to know that having ANY federal withholding on those payments puts me in better shape than I initially thought. Quick question though - when you mention the "aggregate method" vs the flat 22% rate, how would I know which one my payroll used? Would that information be somewhere on my paystub from those bonus payments?
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