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Samantha Howard

Help with IRS Withholding Calculator for Bonus Payment & Job Radius

My husband and I can't seem to get our W4 tax withholding right no matter what we try. In 2022, we ended up owing like $4,800 at tax time which was a nightmare. Then we panicked and overcorrected by adding extra withholding to cover my rental property income, and now we just got a refund of $5,200 for last year. I just found out the IRS has this withholding calculator tool and I'm hoping it'll help us get our 2024 withholding correct so we're not giving the government an interest-free loan OR getting hit with a surprise bill next April. For those who've used the IRS withholding calculator before - I'm confused about how to enter my regular salary vs. bonus pay. Should I include my total gross pay from my regular paychecks? And my husband is considering a job change that might involve commuting outside our normal radius - would that affect our withholding calculation at all? Any tips on using this calculator correctly would be super helpful!

I'm a tax preparer and have walked many clients through the IRS withholding calculator. It's definitely helpful for getting your withholding closer to your actual tax liability. For your question about bonuses - you should include ALL income that will appear on your W-2, including regular salary, bonuses, and other compensation. The calculator is designed to estimate your total tax liability for the year, so it needs the complete picture. If you know you're getting a bonus later in the year, include that amount in your estimated total income. Regarding the job radius question - the physical location of your husband's job doesn't directly affect federal withholding calculations. What matters is your total income and tax situation. However, if the new job would be in a different state or locality with different income tax rules, that would be a separate consideration outside the federal withholding calculator.

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What about retirement contributions? Do those get included in the "gross pay" for the calculator or should we enter our pay after 401k deductions? And if someone has an HSA, does that factor in too?

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For retirement contributions, the calculator has sections where you can enter those separately. Enter your full gross pay before any deductions, then in the appropriate section, you'll enter your pre-tax retirement contributions like 401(k) or 403(b) amounts. This allows the calculator to properly account for the tax benefits of those contributions. For HSA contributions, there's also a specific section for those. Similar to retirement accounts, HSA contributions reduce your taxable income, so the calculator needs to know about them separately from your gross pay to generate accurate results.

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How accurate was it compared to the IRS calculator? I've tried the IRS one before and ended up still owing $700 even though it said I'd get a refund.

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Does it work for married filing jointly situations too? My wife and I always struggle with this since we both work and have weird income situations.

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It was way more accurate than the IRS calculator for me. The IRS one doesn't handle bonuses and variable income very well, but taxr.ai lets you upload actual paystubs so it has real data to work with instead of estimates. For married filing jointly situations, yes it definitely works for that. You can input both spouses' information and it will optimize your combined withholding. It's particularly helpful when both partners work and have different pay structures or benefits. It'll give you specific instructions for each person's W-4.

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I actually tried the service because I was desperate to resolve an issue with my withholding and bonus calculation. Not only did it work exactly as advertised, but I got through to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes (which is miraculous during filing season). The agent helped me understand exactly how to account for quarterly bonuses in my withholding calculations and explained that I had been calculating line 4(c) incorrectly for years. For anyone else struggling with the withholding calculator and bonuses specifically, the agent told me to divide my annual bonus by my pay periods and add that to my regular pay when using the calculator. Made a huge difference in the accuracy!

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Has anyone had issues with the IRS withholding calculator when you have multiple jobs throughout the year? I started a new job in March, and I'm not sure how to account for the W-2 income from my previous employer in the calculator.

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When I was in that situation, I entered the income and withholding from my previous job in the "already withheld" section. There should be fields for income already earned and tax already withheld this year. Then for your current job, you enter the expected income for the remainder of the year.

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Thanks, that makes a lot of sense! I didn't notice that section on the calculator. I'll enter my previous job's details there and then just focus on projecting the new job's income for the rest of the year. Hopefully that gives me more accurate withholding recommendations.

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I found that the IRS withholding calculator isn't great at handling irregular income. My spouse's income varies a lot month to month (sales commissions) and we have rental income too. We ended up just estimating our total annual income, adding about 10% as a buffer, and then calculating what our quarterly estimated tax payments should be to cover the difference that regular withholding won't catch.

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Have you tried using tax software to do a mid-year projection instead? I use TurboTax and just input our estimated full-year numbers around June to see if we're on track. It seems more accurate than the IRS calculator for complex situations.

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