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Anastasia Fedorov

What am I doing wrong with the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet? So confused!

I'm trying to file my taxes without any help this year and I'm getting really stuck on the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet. Just can't wrap my head around how this is supposed to work. For my 2023 Schedule D, I ended up with: Line 15: ($8,021) Line 16: ($8,021) Line 21: ($3,000) When I think about it logically, I should have a carryover of ($5,021) for my 2024 taxes, right? But when I try to follow the worksheet instructions, I'm getting lost. Line 1 tells me to enter the loss from 2023 Line 15, which is ($8,021). Then Line 2 says to enter Line 21 as a positive number, so 3000. Line 3 says to combine those numbers, but enter 0 if it's zero or less. Working through the rest of the worksheet with this approach, my Line 13 would end up as 8,021. That can't be right... or is it? I feel like I'm missing something obvious here. Can anyone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong with this Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet? Thanks in advance!

StarStrider

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You're almost there, but there's a small misunderstanding with how the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet works. The worksheet is designed to help you track losses that exceed the $3,000 deduction limit that can be carried forward to future tax years. For your situation with Line 15 showing ($8,021) and using $3,000 on Line 21, your carryover calculation should work like this: The total capital loss from Schedule D Line 15 is $8,021. The IRS only allows you to deduct $3,000 of capital losses against ordinary income in a single tax year. This means $5,021 gets carried over to the next tax year. When completing the worksheet, make sure you're following the line instructions exactly. The worksheet will walk you through calculating both short-term and long-term carryovers separately, which then combine to your total carryover amount.

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Thanks for the response! I think I'm still getting confused on the worksheet itself. When I go through it step by step, Line 1 is ($8,021), Line 2 is 3000, and Line 3 says to add these together. That would be ($5,021), but then it says to enter 0 if the result is 0 or less. So would I enter 0 or ($5,021) on Line 3?

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StarStrider

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You would enter 0 on Line 3. The worksheet is designed this way because a negative number at that point indicates you have a loss carryover situation. Entering 0 there and continuing through the worksheet will ultimately result in your $5,021 carryover being calculated correctly. Remember that the worksheet is separating your losses into short-term and long-term components. As you continue through the rest of the worksheet (lines 4-13), it will guide you to the correct carryover amount. The $5,021 should appear on line 8 and/or line 13, depending on whether your original losses were short-term, long-term, or a combination of both.

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That sounds interesting, but does it work if I have both short-term and long-term losses? My situation is kind of complicated because I have losses from multiple stock sales plus some crypto that tanked last year.

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CosmicCruiser

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Another approach is to double-check your capital loss work with multiple methods. I always calculate my carryover losses in three ways: 1. Using the IRS worksheet 2. Doing a simple calculation (total loss minus $3,000) 3. Using tax software to verify If all three methods give you the same $5,021 carryover amount, you're probably doing it right. Just remember that short-term and long-term losses are handled differently, which is why the worksheet seems more complicated than just subtracting $3,000 from your total loss.

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I tried the multiple methods approach and got different answers each time, which is making me even more confused. Does the worksheet split the $3,000 deduction between short-term and long-term losses in a specific way? My losses were all from stock sales if that makes a difference.

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CosmicCruiser

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The worksheet does handle short-term and long-term losses differently, and that's likely why you're getting different results. For capital losses, there's a specific order of operations the IRS requires. First, short-term losses offset short-term gains. Then, long-term losses offset long-term gains. After that, if you still have net losses in either category, those net losses can offset gains in the other category. Only after all that, if you still have net losses overall, can you deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income. The worksheet is designed to walk you through this process step by step to ensure the correct ordering. For stock sales, whether they're considered short-term or long-term depends on how long you held them before selling (less or more than a year).

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Aisha Khan

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Quick tip from someone who makes this mistake every year: make sure you're not confusing lines on Form 8949 with Schedule D lines! The numbering is different and I always mix them up.

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Ethan Taylor

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Omg yes this! I was pulling my hair out last year because I was looking at the wrong form entirely when trying to do my capital loss carryover. Make sure you're using the numbers from Schedule D (the summary form) not Form 8949 (where you list all your individual transactions).

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