Form 4562 won't let me use Section 179 carryover from previous year - what am I missing?
I'm completely stuck on this Section 179 carryover situation with Form 4562. It looks like Worksheet 1 is forcing Form 4562, line 1 to only show the amount of Section 179 property I placed in service for 2023. This then affects everything downstream - lines 5, 9, 11, and finally line 12 - which basically means my carryover from 2022 is completely ignored and I'm just creating ANOTHER carryover to 2024. There has to be a way to actually use the carryover amount, right? I mean, what's even the point of having a carryover if you can never recapture it? Am I completely misunderstanding something about how this works? Really appreciate any help on this. My business purchased about $48,000 in equipment last year and I'm trying to maximize deductions while staying compliant.
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Javier Morales
The Section 179 carryover can definitely be used, but the form structure is confusing many people this year. You're right that Worksheet 1 limits Line 1 to only property placed in service in the current tax year. However, the carryover from previous years gets factored in at Line 10 of Form 4562. Look at Line 10 - it should say "Carryover of disallowed deduction from line 13 of your 2022 Form 4562." This is where your previous year's carryover gets added back into the calculation. The form then compares your current year limitation (based on business income) against the total of current year Section 179 plus carryover to determine how much you can actually deduct. The key is to make sure you're completing Line 10 correctly. If that's populated with your carryover amount and you're still seeing issues, it might be related to your business income limitation.
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Natasha Petrova
•Oh, I see what you're saying about Line 10, but I'm still confused. When I put my carryover amount on Line 10, it gets added to my current year election on Line 9, but then on Line 11 it gets limited by my business income again. So if my business income isn't high enough this year either, I just end up with another carryover! Does this mean I can only ever use the carryover if my business income increases significantly in a future year?
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Javier Morales
•You've identified the key limitation correctly. Section 179 deductions (including carryovers) are limited by your business income in each year. So if your business income isn't high enough to absorb both your current year Section 179 election and your carryover, then yes, some portion will carry forward again. The carryover can continue indefinitely until you have sufficient business income to absorb it. Many business owners find themselves in this position, especially after making large equipment purchases. That's why some businesses opt for regular depreciation instead of Section 179 when they anticipate limited business income in the near future. For your $48,000 in equipment, you might want to consider if regular depreciation makes more sense given your business income limitations.
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Emma Davis
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GalaxyGlider
•Does taxr.ai also help with figuring out if you should even use Section 179 vs regular depreciation? My CPA keeps telling me different things each year and I feel like I'm leaving money on the table.
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Malik Robinson
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it actually figure out your previous carryovers? Do you have to upload all your old returns or something? And what about state forms - does it handle those too since some states have different Section 179 limits?
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Emma Davis
•Yes, it definitely helps determine whether Section 179 or regular depreciation is more beneficial in your specific situation. It runs multiple scenarios comparing immediate vs. long-term tax benefits based on your business income projections. For accessing previous carryovers, you can either upload prior returns or enter the information manually. It extracts the relevant data from your previous returns and carries it forward. And yes, it handles state-specific forms and limitations as well - this was especially helpful for me since my state has a much lower Section 179 limit than federal.
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GalaxyGlider
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Isabella Silva
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Ravi Choudhury
•Wait, you actually got through to a real person at the IRS? How long did that take? Every time I call, I get stuck in an endless menu system and eventually get disconnected.
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Malik Robinson
•Yeah right, like the IRS is going to help with complex tax form questions. Most of the time they just tell you to talk to a tax professional. And they're notoriously wrong with their advice sometimes - which doesn't protect you in an audit when they later decide you did it wrong.
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Isabella Silva
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Malik Robinson
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Freya Andersen
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're calculating your business income limitation correctly on Line 11. This is where most people go wrong with Section 179 carryovers. The business income limitation isn't just your net profit from Schedule C or your business. It includes the aggregate income from ALL your actively conducted trades or businesses. So if you have multiple income sources from different businesses, you should be combining them for this limitation.
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Natasha Petrova
•That's a really good point about the business income limitation! I do have a side business that makes about $12,000 per year in addition to my main business. So I should be including income from both when calculating the limitation on Line 11?
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Freya Andersen
•Exactly! You should definitely include income from both businesses when calculating your limitation. The IRS specifically allows you to aggregate income from all actively conducted trades or businesses for the purpose of the business income limitation on Section 179. In your case, adding that additional $12,000 could make a significant difference in how much of your carryover you can utilize this year. Just make sure both businesses are truly "actively conducted" by you - passive investments don't count toward this limitation.
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Omar Farouk
Has anyone tried using bonus depreciation instead of Section 179 to avoid this carryover headache? For 2023, bonus depreciation is 80% instead of 100%, but at least you don't have to deal with the business income limitation.
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CosmicCadet
•Yes! I switched to using bonus depreciation for exactly this reason. With Section 179 I kept creating carryovers I couldn't use. With bonus depreciation, I can immediately deduct 80% of the cost and then depreciate the remaining 20% over the regular recovery period. Just remember that bonus depreciation phases down to 60% for 2024, 40% for 2025, and 20% for 2026 before disappearing completely in 2027 unless Congress extends it.
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Adrian Connor
I had this exact same frustration last year! The key insight that helped me was understanding that Form 4562 is designed to handle multiple scenarios, which makes it confusing for straightforward carryover situations. Here's what I learned: Your carryover from 2022 should go on Line 10, but the critical step many people miss is ensuring your business income limitation on Line 11 is calculated correctly. If your business income is too low to absorb both your current year Section 179 election AND your carryover, then yes, you'll create another carryover. However, there are a few strategies to consider: 1. As Freya mentioned, make sure you're including ALL business income when calculating the limitation 2. Consider splitting your current year purchases between Section 179 and bonus depreciation to optimize your deductions 3. If you know your business income will be higher next year, it might make sense to carry more forward The carryover isn't "lost" - it will continue indefinitely until you have sufficient business income to use it. With $48K in equipment, you definitely want to maximize this deduction when possible!
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