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How to utilize Foreign Tax Credit carryforward when in highest tax bracket?

Last year I got hit with a surprise when filing my taxes. I had around $9,500 in foreign tax withholdings from my international investments (mostly dividend income from overseas ETFs and some passive income streams). Since this exceeded the simplified credit limit, I had to file Form 1116. The problem came when I realized my income puts me in the highest tax bracket, which meant applying that dreaded 0.5405 adjustment factor to my foreign income. Basically, I only got to claim about half of my foreign taxes as a credit, with the remaining $4,700 or so going into this "carryforward" bucket. I'm completely confused about how I'll ever be able to use this carryforward amount. Since my income isn't likely to change significantly, I'll probably be stuck with the same 0.5405 adjustment next year too. So it seems like I'll just keep adding to this pile of unused foreign tax credits that I can never actually benefit from. Am I missing something here? Is there any strategy to actually utilize these carryforward credits? It feels like I'm permanently losing half of the foreign taxes I'm paying every year.

Diego Chavez

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You're encountering one of the more frustrating aspects of the foreign tax credit system for high-income earners. The limitation exists because the IRS wants to ensure the credit only offsets the portion of your US tax that relates to foreign income. The good news is that you can actually use those carryforward credits, but it may take time. Here are some possibilities: 1) Your foreign tax rate might exceed your US tax rate in future years (happens with currency fluctuations or tax law changes abroad), allowing you to use some carryforward. 2) If your overall income composition changes - like having more foreign income relative to US income - you could use more of the credit. 3) The carryforward doesn't expire for 10 years, so if you have a year with extraordinarily high foreign taxes, you might be able to use some of the backlog. 4) If your income drops in future years putting you in a lower bracket, the limitation might be less restrictive. Many taxpayers in your situation end up using the carryforwards gradually over several years as their tax situations fluctuate. It's not ideal, but it's better than losing the credit entirely.

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick question - how does the calculation change if I include capital gains from foreign stock sales? Would that help with using up more of the carryforward? Also wondering if taking the standard deduction vs itemizing affects this at all?

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Diego Chavez

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Including capital gains from foreign stock sales could potentially help because it changes your foreign-to-domestic income ratio. Capital gains are typically categorized differently (as general income category), so it depends on whether your dividends are qualified or non-qualified. This might allow you to use more of your credit in that specific category. Taking the standard deduction versus itemizing doesn't directly impact the Form 1116 calculation. The foreign tax credit limitation is based on your taxable income and the proportion that comes from foreign sources, which happens after either standard or itemized deductions are applied.

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Sean O'Brien

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Zara Shah

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How exactly does taxr.ai work with this specific issue? Like, do you upload your previous returns and it analyzes your specific situation, or is it more general advice? I've got about $8k in carryforwards from multiple years that I'd love to actually use.

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Luca Bianchi

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I'm skeptical... how can moving investments around help with the FTC limitation? The 0.5405 factor is based on your income bracket, not your investment structure. Sounds like they're just telling you to move money around unnecessarily.

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Sean O'Brien

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You upload your previous returns and investment statements, and it analyzes your specific situation. It identified that I had dividend-heavy foreign investments in taxable accounts while keeping my US investments in tax-advantaged accounts. By swapping these around, I reduced my foreign tax withholding while maintaining my overall investment strategy and asset allocation. The 0.5405 factor does relate to income bracket, but the overall limitation calculation also depends on the ratio of foreign taxable income to total taxable income. By changing which investments generate foreign tax and optimizing my qualified vs non-qualified dividend mix, I was able to utilize more of my credits each year.

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Luca Bianchi

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Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai. I was initially skeptical (as you saw in my previous comment), but decided to try it anyway since I had about $15k in foreign tax credits just sitting unused. The analysis was really eye-opening. Turns out I was making several mistakes with my international dividend stocks. They showed me how to reposition my investments between taxable and retirement accounts, and also identified that some of my foreign investments had unnecessarily high withholding rates that I could reduce through specific holding structures. I've already used about $6k of my previously "stuck" carryforward credits after implementing their suggestions. The best part was seeing how the changes affected my specific situation with actual numbers rather than just general advice.

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If you're having trouble reaching the IRS for guidance on your foreign tax credit situation, try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I wasted HOURS on hold trying to get clarification about my Form 1116 carryforwards, but Claimyr got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 20 minutes. The agent walked me through some specific elections I could make on my return to better utilize my carryforward amounts. There's also a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c After years of frustration with never being able to use my FTC carryforwards, the specific guidance from an actual IRS rep made all the difference. They explained some nuances about the different income categories that my tax software never made clear.

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Nia Harris

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Wait, how does this actually work? Is this just a service that waits on hold for you? How much does something like this cost?

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This sounds like BS honestly. IRS agents aren't going to give you secret tax optimization strategies... they're just going to explain the rules as written. And the rules clearly state how the limitation works. No "special election" is going to magically let you use more foreign tax credits than the limitation allows.

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It's a service that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When they reach a human, they call you to connect with the agent. You don't have to sit through the hold music or keep redialing when disconnected. The agent didn't give me "secret strategies" - they explained how to properly separate my foreign income into the different categories on Form 1116 (passive, general, etc.). My tax software was lumping everything into passive, but some of my income qualified for other categories with different limitation calculations. It wasn't about bypassing rules, just applying them correctly to my situation.

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I need to eat my words from my previous comment. After getting absolutely nowhere with trying to figure out my foreign tax credit situation for months, I tried Claimyr out of desperation. Got connected to an IRS agent who actually specializes in international tax issues (didn't even know they had specialists you could talk to). She explained that I had been incorrectly categorizing some of my foreign income sources, which was making my limitation calculation worse than it needed to be. By correctly separating my passive income from general limitation income on multiple 1116 forms instead of combining them, I was able to use about $3,800 of my carryforward that I thought was permanently stuck. The conversation took about 30 minutes and solved an issue I'd been struggling with for two tax seasons.

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Aisha Ali

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Has anyone considered just switching to the simplified foreign tax credit? If you qualify (foreign taxes under $300 single/$600 married), you can just claim the full amount without dealing with Form 1116 limitations. Maybe restructuring investments to stay under that threshold makes more sense than dealing with these partial credits?

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AstroAlpha

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I wish! My foreign investments generate way too much in foreign taxes to qualify for the simplified credit. I'm talking about $9,500 in foreign taxes last year, so there's no way to get under that $300 threshold without completely overhauling my investment strategy and potentially giving up significant returns. That's why I'm stuck dealing with Form 1116 and these frustrating limitations.

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Ethan Moore

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Random thought - have you considered using a donor-advised fund for your foreign investments? If you're charitably inclined, you could donate appreciated foreign securities to a DAF, get the charitable deduction at full market value, avoid capital gains taxes entirely, AND avoid the foreign tax credit limitations since the DAF would own the assets. Not a solution for everyone but works well if philanthropy is part of your financial plan anyway.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Interesting idea but wouldn't that just be avoiding the problem by giving up the investments entirely? The whole point is to keep the investments while figuring out how to use the tax credits.

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