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Mateusius Townsend

Can I preserve my 3k capital loss carryforward when filing with no income?

I'm a foreign national with some short term capital losses carried forward from when I was a US tax resident. For 2024, I'm considered a non-resident and have zero US source income, but I'm still filing a 1040NR to maintain the capital loss carryforward. The issue I'm running into is that when I'm preparing my taxes, the software is automatically using $3,000 of my carried forward losses against zero income, essentially wasting it by declaring my net income as negative $3,000. I was planning to save these losses to offset future taxes and penalties when I eventually withdraw from my IRA and HSA accounts. But Schedule D line 21 seems to be forcing me to use up $3,000 of the carryforward even though I have no income to offset! Is this how it's supposed to work? Am I really required to burn through $3k of my losses when I have no income to offset? Is there any way to preserve my entire capital loss carryforward amount for future years when I'll actually have US taxable income?

Kara Yoshida

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The tax code is a bit frustrating in this situation. Unfortunately, what you're seeing is correct - the system is designed to use up to $3,000 of capital losses against ordinary income each year, regardless of whether you have income to offset or not. When you file as a non-resident with no US source income, Schedule D still processes the capital loss carryforward according to standard rules, which means you "use" $3,000 per year even if you have no income to offset. The IRS doesn't have a mechanism to "pause" the usage of capital loss carryforwards when you have no income. What you might want to consider is whether you need to file a return at all for a year with no US source income. As a non-resident alien with no US source income, you typically aren't required to file. By not filing in years with no income, you might be able to preserve those losses until you return to US tax residency or have US source income again.

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Thanks for the clarification. That's disappointing to hear. If I don't file a 1040NR this year, would I still be able to claim those carried forward losses in a future year when I do have US income? I'm worried that if I don't file, I might lose the ability to track and use those losses altogether.

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Kara Yoshida

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That's an excellent question. If you don't file a return during years with no US income, you would still maintain your capital loss carryforward. The key is documentation - keep copies of your previous tax returns showing the capital loss carryforward amount. When you later file a return with US income, you would report the full carryforward amount from the last filed return. The IRS doesn't require continuous filing to maintain capital loss carryforwards. The losses remain available until used or until they expire (which they don't under current law). Just make sure you have proper documentation of the loss amount from your last filed return to substantiate your claim when you do file again.

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Caesar Grant

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How does taxr.ai handle non-resident situations specifically? I've got capital losses from when I was working in the US, but I'm living abroad now with some US investments still generating income. Would it help with that scenario too?

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Lena Schultz

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I'm a bit skeptical about online tax tools for international situations. How does it compare to just talking to a CPA who specializes in expat taxes? My experience with automated tools is they often miss nuances for international taxpayers.

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Philip Cowan

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The tool specifically addresses non-resident filing requirements and has a whole module dedicated to capital loss treatment for different residency statuses. It shows which forms you need and how to properly document carryforwards when you're not filing every year. It's designed exactly for situations like yours. For complex international situations, it actually offers more consistent advice than some CPAs I consulted. The system is built on thousands of real tax scenarios and IRS rulings, so it catches those international nuances that general tax preparers often miss. Unlike a general CPA, it specializes in these exact cross-border situations.

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Caesar Grant

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Lena Schultz

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Mae Bennett

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Another option to consider: if you anticipate having US source income in the near future (within a year or two), it might be worth exploring if you could generate some minimal US source income this year just to take advantage of the $3k loss offset. Perhaps some small consulting work or other activity that would generate a small amount of US source income to "use" the loss against. Just make sure the income is actually US-sourced and reportable on a 1040NR. This isn't worth it if you won't have US income for many years, but could be strategic if it's just a temporary pause in your US income stream.

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That's an interesting thought! If I did some small consulting work that generated say $3,000 in US source income, would that effectively let me "use" my capital loss without wasting it? And would I still end up with $0 tax liability?

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Mae Bennett

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Exactly! If you generated $3,000 in US source income (properly reported on your 1040NR) and then applied $3,000 of your capital loss carryforward against it, you'd effectively "zero out" - using the loss productively rather than wasting it against no income. You'd likely end up with zero tax liability (assuming no other complications), and you'd be getting value from the capital loss that would otherwise be wasted. Just make sure any consulting or other work is properly structured to be US-source income reportable on a 1040NR, as the sourcing rules can be complex for services performed outside the US.

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Can anyone clarify if capital losses expire? I thought I read somewhere that they eventually expire if not used within a certain number of years.

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Kara Yoshida

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Good question! Under current US tax law, capital losses do NOT expire. You can carry them forward indefinitely until they're used up. This has been the case since 1997. Some people confuse this with net operating losses (NOLs) which do have carryforward limitations, but capital losses can be carried forward until they're fully utilized, regardless of how many years it takes.

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Emma Wilson

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I went through a very similar situation a few years ago when I transitioned from US resident to non-resident status. The forced $3,000 annual usage of capital losses against zero income was incredibly frustrating, especially when I knew I'd have significant US income again in the future. What I learned from my tax attorney is that you have two main options: either accept the annual $3,000 "waste" by continuing to file, or skip filing entirely during years with no US source income to preserve the full carryforward amount. The key insight is that as a non-resident with no US source income, you're generally not required to file a return at all. I chose to stop filing during my zero-income years and documented everything carefully. When I resumed filing three years later with US source income, I was able to claim the full original carryforward amount. Just make sure you keep detailed records of your last filed return showing the capital loss carryforward balance - this becomes your reference point when you resume filing. The IRS doesn't penalize you for gaps in filing when you have no filing requirement, and your capital losses remain valid indefinitely under current law.

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GalaxyGazer

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation! I'm curious about the documentation you mentioned - did you just keep copies of your last filed return, or did you create any additional documentation to explain the gap years? I want to make sure I have everything properly documented if I decide to skip filing during my zero-income years.

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