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Ivanna St. Pierre

Capital Loss Carryover: Can I Apply More Than $3,000 From Prior Year Losses?

So I'm totally confused about my capital loss situation. Last year (2023) I had a pretty bad investment year and ended up with a capital loss of around $24,000. I carried over about $21,000 of that loss to this year (2024). I've always been under the impression that you can only apply $3,000 of carried-over capital losses against ordinary income each year. Like, I thought I'd be using $3,000 this year, then another $3,000 next year, and so on until I used up all $21,000 of the carryover (which would take 7 years). But I'm doing my taxes in TurboTax right now, and it's applying WAY more than $3,000 of my carried-over loss for 2024. Like, it's using a big chunk of it all at once. This doesn't match what I thought I knew about capital loss carryovers. Is TurboTax making a mistake, or am I misunderstanding something about how capital loss carryovers work? Can you actually use more than $3,000 of carried-over losses in a single year?

The $3,000 limit only applies to capital losses that offset ordinary income, not capital gains. Here's how it works: If you have capital gains in the current year, your carried-over losses will first offset those gains dollar-for-dollar with no limit. For example, if you have $10,000 in capital gains in 2024, TurboTax will use $10,000 of your carried-over losses to offset those gains completely. After offsetting any capital gains, then the $3,000 limit applies to how much of the remaining loss can offset your ordinary income (like wages). So if you have $21,000 in carried-over losses and $10,000 in capital gains, TurboTax would use $10,000 to offset the gains, then allow $3,000 more against ordinary income, leaving $8,000 to carry forward to next year. This is likely why TurboTax is applying more than $3,000 of your carried-over losses - you probably have some capital gains in 2024 that are being offset.

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So just to clarify - if I made $12,000 in stock gains this year, and I'm carrying over $15,000 in losses from last year, TurboTax would first wipe out all $12,000 in gains using my losses, and THEN still allow me to claim $3,000 against my regular income? That would use up $15,000 total of my loss carryover in one year?

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Yes, that's exactly right. Your $15,000 in carried-over losses would first offset your $12,000 in capital gains completely. After that, you can use up to $3,000 of the remaining losses against your ordinary income like wages or interest. So in your example, you would use all $15,000 of your carryover losses in one year - $12,000 against capital gains and $3,000 against ordinary income. If your carried-over loss was larger, say $18,000 instead of $15,000, you'd use $12,000 against capital gains, $3,000 against ordinary income, and still have $3,000 to carry forward to next year.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - be careful if you have different types of capital gains/losses (short-term vs long-term). The IRS requires you to offset short-term losses against short-term gains first, and long-term losses against long-term gains first. Only after you've matched short-to-short and long-to-long can you use remaining losses of one type to offset gains of the other type. This might be another reason why TurboTax is applying your losses differently than you expected. Schedule D walks through this calculation step by step, and the worksheets can get complex when you have carryover losses from prior years along with current year gains and losses of different types.

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Thanks for bringing that up! Actually my situation is even more complicated because I do have both short and long term losses carried over. I didn't realize there was a specific order for applying them. Is there a simple way to verify that TurboTax is doing this correctly?

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The best way to verify TurboTax is handling this correctly is to look at Form 8949 and Schedule D in your tax return. Form 8949 separates your transactions into short-term and long-term, then Schedule D combines and nets them properly. On Schedule D, check lines 6-7 for short-term gains/losses and lines 14-15 for long-term gains/losses. Then line 21 should show your combined loss carryover from last year properly distributed between short and long-term. If you want to really verify the calculations, you can manually work through the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet from last year's instructions to see how your $21,000 carryover should be split between short and long-term.

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The way I remember this rule is: "Losses offset gains without limit, then up to $3000 against regular income per year." I lost over $40k in the 2022 market crash and have been working through my carryovers. In 2023, I had $12k in new gains, so I was able to use $12k of my carryover losses against those gains, plus another $3k against my regular income. That used up $15k of my carryover in just one year. TurboTax is likely correct in your situation. Most tax software handles this calculation very well. Just make sure you correctly entered your 2023 carryover amount from last year's return.

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Is there a way to strategize around this? Like should I try to bunch my capital gains into certain years to use up my loss carryovers faster? Or is there no real advantage to that?

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There can be some strategic advantages to bunching capital gains, but it depends on your overall tax situation. If you're going to have large loss carryovers for many years anyway, accelerating gains to use them up faster might make sense - especially if you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in future years. However, you also need to consider the timing of when you'd naturally want to sell investments. Don't let the tax tail wag the investment dog. If you have investments you were planning to hold long-term, forcing sales just to use up loss carryovers might not be optimal from an investment perspective. One thing to keep in mind is that unused capital loss carryovers never expire - they can be carried forward indefinitely until used up. So there's no rush unless you have other tax planning reasons to accelerate the gains.

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Great question! You're definitely not alone in being confused about this - it's one of the most misunderstood aspects of capital loss carryovers. Everyone here has given you solid advice, but let me add one practical tip: pull up your 2023 tax return and look at the "Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet" (usually found in the instructions or generated by your tax software). This worksheet should show exactly how your $21,000 carryover breaks down between short-term and long-term losses. Then look at your 2024 Schedule D to see what capital gains you have this year. TurboTax is almost certainly applying your carryover losses correctly - first against any 2024 capital gains (with no dollar limit), then up to $3,000 against ordinary income. The key insight that helped me understand this: the $3,000 annual limit only applies to the portion of capital losses that reduce your regular income (wages, interest, etc.). There's no annual limit on using capital losses to offset capital gains. So if you made some good investments this year that generated gains, that would explain why TurboTax is using more than $3,000 of your carryover. Trust the software on this one - it's handling a complex calculation that most people (myself included) would mess up if doing manually!

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This is such a helpful summary! I'm new to dealing with capital loss carryovers and this whole thread has been incredibly educational. I had the same misconception as the original poster - I thought you could only use $3,000 total per year, period. The explanation about losses offsetting gains first with no limit, then the $3,000 limit only applying to ordinary income, finally makes sense. I've been avoiding selling any profitable investments because I thought I'd "waste" my loss carryovers, but now I understand I can actually use them strategically. One follow-up question - when you mention the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet, is that something that gets automatically generated by tax software like TurboTax, or do you have to manually create it?

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The Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet is automatically generated by most tax software including TurboTax - you don't need to create it manually. When you enter your capital gains and losses, the software calculates how much loss you can use in the current year and how much carries forward to next year. In TurboTax, you can usually find this information in the "Review" section under Forms, or by looking at the detailed Schedule D. The software will show you a breakdown of how your prior year carryover losses are being applied against current year gains and ordinary income. If you're doing taxes by hand (which I don't recommend for complex situations like this!), you'd find the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet in the IRS instructions for Schedule D. But honestly, given how intricate these calculations can get with multiple years of carryovers and different types of gains/losses, tax software is definitely the way to go. The key thing is that you should be able to see in your tax software exactly how much of your carryover is being used this year and how much is being carried forward to 2025. This transparency helps you understand why more than $3,000 is being applied if you have current year capital gains.

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This whole discussion has been incredibly enlightening! I had the exact same misconception as you, Ivanna - I thought the $3,000 limit applied to ALL capital loss usage, not just losses against ordinary income. I've been sitting on some winning stocks for over a year because I was afraid of "wasting" my $18,000 loss carryover from 2022. Now I realize I could actually sell those positions and use my carryover losses to completely offset the gains without any annual limit restriction! Reading through everyone's explanations, especially the breakdown about how losses first offset gains dollar-for-dollar with no limit, then up to $3,000 more against regular income - this completely changes my tax planning strategy. I feel like I've been leaving money on the table by not understanding this rule properly. TurboTax is definitely doing the right thing in your situation. The software is actually much smarter about these complex capital loss calculations than most of us give it credit for. Thanks everyone for clearing this up!

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I'm so glad this thread helped clarify things for you too! I was in a similar boat - had about $15,000 in loss carryovers and was being way too conservative with my investment strategy because of this misunderstanding. What really opened my eyes was realizing that capital losses are actually meant to be used efficiently, not just trickled out at $3,000 per year. The IRS designed the rules so that if you have investment gains, your losses can offset them completely - it's only when you don't have gains that you're limited to the $3,000 against regular income. This has completely changed how I think about tax-loss harvesting and rebalancing my portfolio. Instead of avoiding all gains to "preserve" my loss carryovers, I can now make better investment decisions knowing that any gains will be offset by my existing losses first. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion - it's been like getting a free tax education! Sometimes the best learning happens in community forums like this where real people share their experiences and confusion.

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I've been carrying forward about $8,000 in losses from 2022 and have been so confused about how they work. Like many others here, I thought I was stuck using only $3,000 per year no matter what. I actually called my tax preparer last month asking why they applied more than $3,000 of my carryover losses, and they tried to explain it but I still didn't really get it until reading all these explanations. The way everyone broke down that losses first offset gains with NO limit, then the $3,000 limit only applies to ordinary income - that finally clicked for me. What's really helpful is seeing the practical examples people shared. Like Atticus asking about $12,000 in gains and $15,000 in carryover losses, and getting confirmation that yes, you'd use ALL $15,000 in one year ($12,000 against gains + $3,000 against ordinary income). Those concrete numbers make it so much clearer than trying to parse IRS publications. I'm definitely going to go back and double-check my 2024 return now that I understand this better. I may have been too conservative in my investment decisions this year because I didn't want to "waste" my loss carryovers. Turns out I was actually missing opportunities to use them efficiently! Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences.

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This has been such an educational thread! I'm completely new to dealing with capital losses and was actually dreading having to figure this out for my 2024 taxes. I had a rough year in 2023 with about $11,000 in losses that I'm carrying forward, and like everyone else here, I assumed I was stuck with the $3,000 per year limitation no matter what. Reading through all these examples really helps put it in perspective. I've actually been avoiding selling some investments that have recovered well this year because I thought it would "waste" my carryover losses. Now I understand that if I have $5,000 in capital gains this year, I could use $5,000 of my carryover losses to offset those gains completely, plus still get the $3,000 deduction against my regular income. That would use up $8,000 of my $11,000 carryover in one year! It's amazing how a basic misunderstanding of this rule can completely mess up your investment strategy. I feel like I need to go back and reconsider some of my decisions this year. Better late than never to learn this properly! Thanks to everyone for making this complex topic so much clearer with real examples and practical explanations.

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Wow, this entire thread has been like a masterclass in capital loss carryovers! I can't believe how many of us had the exact same misconception about the $3,000 limit applying to ALL loss usage instead of just losses against ordinary income. I've been dealing with a $16,000 loss carryover from my disastrous 2022 crypto investments, and I've been so paralyzed about making any moves in my regular stock portfolio because I thought I'd be "wasting" my losses if I realized any gains. Reading everyone's explanations about how losses first offset gains dollar-for-dollar with NO annual limit has completely changed my perspective. The lightbulb moment for me was Elin's explanation early in the thread - if you have $10,000 in capital gains and $21,000 in loss carryovers, you use $10,000 of the losses against the gains, then $3,000 more against ordinary income, leaving only $8,000 to carry forward. I had been thinking it would take 7+ years to use up those losses at $3,000 per year, but actually having investment gains ACCELERATES the process! This is going to completely change how I approach my portfolio rebalancing and tax planning. Instead of avoiding all gains to "preserve" my loss carryovers, I can now make smarter investment decisions knowing that any gains will be efficiently offset by my existing losses first. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and clearing up this widespread confusion!

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I'm so glad I found this discussion! I'm completely new to dealing with investment losses and honestly felt pretty overwhelmed trying to understand how carryovers work. Like so many others here, I had completely misunderstood the $3,000 rule and thought it was a hard cap on ALL capital loss usage each year. I'm in a similar situation with about $9,000 in losses I need to carry forward from some bad investment decisions last year. I've been holding onto some stocks that have done well this year because I was afraid of "using up" my loss carryover too quickly. Now I'm realizing that's backwards thinking! The way everyone explained it with concrete examples really helps - especially seeing how if I have $6,000 in capital gains this year, I could use $6,000 of my loss carryover against those gains plus still get the $3,000 deduction against my regular income. That would actually be GOOD for my tax situation, not wasteful. This community is amazing for helping newcomers like me understand these complex tax rules. I feel much more confident about managing my investments now that I actually understand how the loss carryover system is supposed to work. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge so generously!

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Amara Eze

This has been such an incredibly helpful discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation - about $13,000 in loss carryovers from 2023, and I've been absolutely puzzled by how TurboTax was handling them this year. Like so many others here, I was completely wrong about thinking the $3,000 limit applied to ALL capital loss usage. I had no idea that losses can offset capital gains dollar-for-dollar with no annual limit, and that the $3,000 restriction only applies to losses used against ordinary income like wages. What really drives this home for me is that I've actually been making some decent gains this year - probably around $7,000 in capital gains from stocks that have recovered. Instead of being worried about TurboTax "using up" my loss carryover too quickly, I should be celebrating that it's working exactly as intended! My losses are first wiping out those $7,000 in gains completely, and then I still get to use $3,000 more against my regular income. This means I'll use $10,000 of my $13,000 carryover in just one year, which is actually fantastic for my tax situation. I was dreading having to carry these losses forward for 4+ years, but now I realize that having investment gains actually helps me use them up more efficiently. Thank you everyone for making this so clear with real examples and patient explanations. This thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with capital loss carryovers!

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Mei Wong

This entire thread has been a game-changer for me too! I'm relatively new to investing and had some significant losses in 2023 that I'm carrying forward - about $14,500. Like everyone else, I was completely confused about how these carryovers actually work in practice. What's been most eye-opening is realizing that capital gains actually HELP you use up your loss carryovers faster, not slower. I had been avoiding taking any profits this year because I thought it would somehow interfere with my ability to claim the full $3,000 deduction. Turns out that's completely backward! Reading through all these examples, especially seeing how losses first offset gains with no limit before the $3,000 rule even kicks in, has completely changed my investment strategy. I actually have about $5,000 in unrealized gains right now that I was hesitant to take, but now I understand that taking those gains would let me use $5,000 of my carryover losses PLUS still get the full $3,000 against my ordinary income. This community really shows the power of people sharing their real experiences and confusion. Sometimes these complex tax rules make so much more sense when explained by regular people dealing with the same situations rather than trying to decode IRS publications. Thank you all for such a thorough and helpful discussion!

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This thread has been absolutely incredible! As someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted, I finally had to jump in because this exact situation has been driving me crazy for months. I have about $19,000 in capital loss carryovers from some really poor investment decisions in 2022-2023, and I've been so confused watching TurboTax apply way more than $3,000 of them this year. Like literally everyone else here, I was convinced there was some kind of software error because I "knew" you could only use $3,000 per year, period. Reading through all these explanations - especially the clear breakdown that losses first offset capital gains with NO LIMIT, and only then does the $3,000 cap apply to ordinary income - this has completely blown my mind. I actually have about $8,000 in capital gains this year from some recovery in my tech stocks, so TurboTax was correctly using $8,000 of my carryover losses against those gains, plus allowing another $3,000 against my regular income. What really gets me is that I've been beating myself up thinking I was somehow "wasting" my loss carryovers by having gains this year. Turns out having those gains is actually helping me use up the carryovers more efficiently! Instead of taking 6+ years to exhaust them at $3,000 annually, I'm using $11,000 in just one year. This community is amazing for helping people understand these complex rules through real examples and shared experiences. Thank you all for such patient and thorough explanations - you've saved me from making some seriously bad investment decisions based on my misunderstanding!

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This has been such an enlightening thread for all of us! I'm also new to dealing with capital loss carryovers and had the exact same confusion. I've been carrying forward about $12,000 in losses from some bad stock picks in 2023, and when I saw TurboTax applying more than $3,000 of them this year, I was convinced something was wrong. Like everyone else here, I had completely misunderstood how the system works. I thought the $3,000 was a hard cap on ALL loss usage, not realizing it only applies to losses used against ordinary income. The explanation that losses first offset capital gains dollar-for-dollar with no annual limit has been a total revelation. I actually have about $4,000 in capital gains this year from some investments that recovered, so now I understand that TurboTax is correctly using $4,000 of my carryover losses against those gains, plus the full $3,000 against my regular income. That's $7,000 of my $12,000 carryover used in one year - much faster than the 4 years I was expecting! This thread really shows how valuable community knowledge sharing is. Sometimes complex tax rules are much clearer when explained through real examples by people dealing with the same situations. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share their experiences and help newcomers like me understand these tricky concepts!

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