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Hugh Intensity

Where to find my TIN (taxpayer identification number)? Is it the same as my SSN?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to complete some tax paperwork for a new job, and they're asking for my TIN (taxpayer identification number). I'm honestly confused about what this actually is. Is my TIN the same thing as my social security number? Or is it something completely different that I need to apply for? The HR department just sent me this form with barely any instructions, and I don't want to put the wrong information. Any help would be really appreciated!

Danielle Mays

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For most individual U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is indeed your Social Security Number (SSN). The IRS uses several types of TINs depending on your situation: If you're a U.S. citizen or resident alien, your 9-digit SSN is your TIN. You can find it on your Social Security card, previous tax returns, W-2 forms, or other tax documents. If you're not eligible for an SSN but need to file taxes (like certain non-resident aliens), you'd use an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN), which also has 9 digits and starts with the number 9. For businesses, the TIN is usually an Employer Identification Number (EIN), which you'd get by applying with the IRS. For your freelance work, unless you've set up a formal business entity, you'll likely just use your SSN as your TIN.

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Roger Romero

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Thanks for explaining! Quick question - I'm starting a small side business but haven't officially registered it or anything. Should I still just use my SSN or do I need to get an EIN even for a small unregistered business?

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Danielle Mays

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You can use your SSN for a sole proprietorship business that doesn't have employees. Many freelancers and independent contractors operate this way. However, getting an EIN might be beneficial even for a small business. It helps keep your personal and business finances separate, adds a layer of privacy (since you won't have to give clients your SSN), and will be necessary if you ever decide to hire employees or form an LLC or corporation. You can get one free from the IRS website and it's a pretty simple process.

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For most U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is indeed your Social Security Number (SSN). The IRS uses different types of TINs depending on your situation. If you're a U.S. citizen or permanent resident, your 9-digit SSN serves as your TIN for tax purposes. You'll find it on your Social Security card, previous tax returns, or other official documents where your SSN appears. If you're not eligible for an SSN (like some non-residents or foreign entities), you might need an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) or an Employer Identification Number (EIN) instead. But for a typical job in the U.S., they're almost certainly just asking for your SSN.

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Beth Ford

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So if I have a small side business, would I use my SSN as the TIN or would I need to get a separate EIN? I've been using my social for everything so far but wondering if that's correct.

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If you're operating as a sole proprietor (meaning you haven't formed a separate legal entity like an LLC), you can absolutely use your SSN as your TIN for your side business. Many small business owners do exactly that when starting out. If you want to separate your personal and business finances more clearly or if you plan to hire employees, you might want to get an EIN. It's free to apply on the IRS website, and you'll get the number instantly in most cases. Some people also prefer using an EIN instead of their SSN for privacy reasons, even if they don't strictly need one.

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Nina Chan

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Your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is actually an umbrella term that includes several different types of tax IDs. For most individual U.S. citizens, your Social Security Number (SSN) serves as your TIN for tax purposes. If you're filling out financial paperwork as an individual, you'd generally use your SSN when they ask for a TIN. However, if you're operating a business, you might have an Employer Identification Number (EIN) which would be your TIN in that context. If you're not a U.S. citizen and don't have an SSN, you might have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) instead, which also falls under the TIN category.

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Ruby Knight

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Thanks for explaining! I always thought TIN was something completely different. So just to clarify - if I'm just a regular employee filing my personal taxes, my TIN would just be my social security number?

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Nina Chan

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Yes, that's exactly right! If you're filing as an individual for your personal taxes, your Social Security Number is your TIN. You'd enter your 9-digit SSN whenever a form asks for your TIN. If you're self-employed or own a business, you might have applied for an EIN (Employer Identification Number), which would serve as your TIN for business-related matters. But for most regular employees, the SSN is the TIN you'll use on virtually all tax and financial documents.

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For most U.S. citizens and permanent residents, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is indeed your Social Security Number (SSN). The IRS uses different types of TINs for tax administration purposes, with SSN being the most common type. If you're a U.S. citizen or permanent resident with work authorization, you almost certainly use your SSN as your TIN on tax documents. You'll find your SSN on your Social Security card, and it follows the format XXX-XX-XXXX. Other types of TINs include Employer Identification Numbers (EINs) for businesses, Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITINs) for certain non-citizens, and Adoption Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ATINs) in specific adoption situations.

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Melissa Lin

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Thanks for the explanation. What if I'm not a U.S. citizen and don't have a SSN? I'm on a work visa. Do I need to apply for one of those other TIN things you mentioned?

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If you're on a work visa and authorized to work in the U.S., you should have been issued a Social Security Number. Check with your visa documentation or visit a local Social Security office to apply for one if you haven't received it yet. If you're not eligible for an SSN due to visa restrictions, you would need to apply for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) using Form W-7. This is common for certain visa holders, dependents, or spouses who need to file taxes but aren't eligible for an SSN.

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Romeo Quest

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Does this tool also help with figuring out which forms you need to file? I'm confused about whether I need to use my SSN or get an EIN for my side business.

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Val Rossi

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Sounds too good to be true honestly. How does it actually work? Like do you upload your tax docs and personal info to some random website?

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Logan Stewart

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Does it actually explain the differences between all these tax numbers? I'm getting forms for my side gig and they're asking for different numbers than my regular job and I'm so confused.

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Niko Ramsey

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How secure is uploading your tax docs to a website though? Seems risky with all the identity theft these days.

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Does it help with other tax questions too? I always get stuck on deductions I might be missing as a freelancer.

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Anna Kerber

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Romeo Quest

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai - it was actually super helpful! I asked specifically about my situation with my side gig and whether I needed an EIN. Turns out I could use just my SSN for now since I'm a sole proprietor without employees. The system walked me through everything and even showed me exactly where to put my SSN on Schedule C. Saved me a trip to an accountant for sure!

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Mikayla Brown

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Does taxr.ai work for more complicated tax situations? I'm a freelancer with income from multiple sources and I'm always confused about which numbers go where on forms.

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Joy Olmedo

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I'm a bit skeptical about uploading sensitive documents to any online service. How secure is this? Do they store your tax docs and personal info?

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For freelancers, it's actually perfect because it can handle all kinds of tax documents - W-9s, 1099s, and even helps identify which business expenses might be deductible. It's designed to untangle exactly those complicated situations with multiple income sources. Regarding security, I had the same concern initially. They use bank-level encryption and don't store your actual documents after analysis - that was a must for me. They explain their security measures on the site, but what convinced me was that they don't even ask for your full SSN when using the basic features.

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai that the other user mentioned. It was genuinely helpful for sorting out my freelance tax situation! Not only did it clarify the TIN question (which is indeed my SSN), but it also helped me understand which form to use for my different income sources. The document analyzer pointed out deductions I was missing too - apparently my home internet counts partially as a business expense since I work remotely. Would definitely recommend checking it out if you're confused by tax terminology.

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Eve Freeman

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If you're still confused about your TIN after getting answers here, you might want to call the IRS directly. But good luck with that! I spent 3 hours on hold last month trying to sort out my TIN situation when I lost my social security card. Then I found Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) which was a total game-changer. They got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes who confirmed everything about TINs and helped me request a replacement card. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Seriously wish I'd known about this sooner!

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Wait how does that actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible. Does this service somehow jump the queue?

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Val Rossi

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This sounds like a scam. There's no way to skip the IRS phone lines. They're government controlled and everyone has to wait their turn. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Eve Freeman

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It doesn't actually skip the queue in the way you're thinking. The service basically keeps dialing and navigating the IRS phone tree for you, then calls you when they get a human. So you don't have to waste hours with your phone on speaker listening to that awful hold music. No, it's definitely not a scam! It's just an automated system that does the waiting for you. It keeps dialing the IRS repeatedly using their algorithms to hit the best times when agents are available. I was skeptical too, but I was desperate after multiple failed attempts. They only connect you with the official IRS number, and they don't ask for any personal info - they just call you when they get through to an agent.

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Val Rossi

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I'm eating my words right now. After complaining about Claimyr sounding like a scam, I was still desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my TIN situation (needed clarification about my ITIN renewal), so I tried it anyway. It actually worked?? Got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes instead of the 2+ hours I spent the day before. The agent confirmed everything I needed to know about my ITIN renewal process. Still surprised this actually exists, but definitely grateful I gave it a chance.

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Just wanted to update after checking out taxr.ai - it was actually super helpful! I uploaded last year's tax return and some 1099 forms, and it immediately identified several missed deductions I could've taken as a freelancer. It also clearly explained that my SSN was indeed my TIN for individual purposes, and showed me exactly where to enter it on different forms. Already filed my quarterly taxes with the new info and should be saving about $430!

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Jabari-Jo

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If you need to contact the IRS to confirm any TIN information or have questions about which number to use, good luck getting through! I spent THREE DAYS trying to reach someone at the IRS about my TIN situation when I started freelancing. After being hung up on repeatedly, I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that got me through to a real IRS agent in under 45 minutes. They have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed that for individual contractors, your SSN is your TIN, but she also walked me through when an EIN might be better. Saved me so much frustration trying to get a simple answer!

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Kristin Frank

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Wait how does this actually work? Does it just call the IRS for you or something? I'm confused.

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Micah Trail

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Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. I'll believe it when I see it. Been trying to reach them about my refund for 2 months.

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Jabari-Jo

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It basically holds your place in the IRS phone queue so you don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. When an agent is about to pick up, it calls your phone and connects you directly to the IRS agent. I was skeptical too! But after trying for 3 days on my own, I was desperate. It worked exactly as advertised - I was connected to an actual IRS agent in about 37 minutes without having to stay on hold the whole time. I asked all my TIN questions and got everything sorted out. Definitely worth it if you're getting nowhere trying to call yourself.

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Sean Matthews

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Speaking of tax confusion - I spent THREE DAYS trying to call the IRS to ask about my TIN situation for my small business. Constant busy signals and disconnections. Then I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that actually got me through to a real IRS agent in about 20 minutes! They have this demo video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. The agent confirmed everything about my TIN vs EIN question immediately. Would've saved me so much time if I'd known about this earlier!

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Ali Anderson

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Wait, how does that even work? I thought it was literally impossible to get through to the IRS phone lines. Is this some kinda priority service or something?

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Zadie Patel

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Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. I've tried everything and have spent hours on hold. This sounds like just another scam trying to make money off desperate taxpayers.

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Sean Matthews

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It's not a priority service in the way you might think. They basically use an automated system that calls the IRS repeatedly for you and navigates through the phone tree until it gets a spot in line. Then it calls you and connects you directly to the IRS. You don't skip the line - you just don't have to do the tedious part of trying to get into the queue. And I get the skepticism - I felt the same way! But after wasting days trying myself, I was desperate. The difference is that their system can make hundreds of call attempts when the lines are busy, versus the few times most of us would try before giving up. I talked to a real IRS agent who answered my TIN questions completely.

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Caden Turner

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Just to add my 2 cents - I recently had to track down my TIN for some investment paperwork. If you've filed taxes before, your TIN (likely your SSN) is listed on previous tax returns. Check your Form 1040 from last year - your SSN should be right at the top next to your name. Saves you having to dig out your actual social security card if you can't find it.

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Great advice, but what if this is my first year filing? I just turned 18 and I'm not sure where to find my SSN since my parents handled everything before.

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Caden Turner

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If this is your first year filing, your SSN is on your Social Security card - that blue and white card you may have received when you were younger. If you can't find your card, you can also check other official documents like health insurance cards, bank statements, or school records that might have it listed. If you still can't locate it, you can request a replacement Social Security card online through the Social Security Administration website, or visit a local SSA office with identification documents. Your parents should also have this information if they claimed you as a dependent on their previous tax returns.

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Isaiah Cross

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If you're trying to get tax info or confirmation about your TIN from the IRS directly, good luck getting through to them! I spent DAYS trying to call about a similar issue. Finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and it was a game-changer. They hold your place in the IRS queue and call you when an agent is about to answer. Saved me literally hours of waiting on hold. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Got through to an actual IRS agent who confirmed my TIN details and answered some other questions I had about my tax filing. Couldn't believe how easy it was after struggling for so long.

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Kiara Greene

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How does this actually work? Do they somehow skip the line or do you still have to wait the same amount of time?

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Joy Olmedo

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible. I find it hard to believe any service could actually fix that problem.

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Isaiah Cross

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They don't skip the line - you still have the same wait time, but their system holds your place in the queue so YOU don't have to sit there listening to that awful hold music. They basically call the IRS, wait in line for you, and then call you when they're about to connect with an agent. Then they connect you directly to the IRS person. As for it sounding too good to be true, I felt exactly the same way! I was super skeptical. The way it works is surprisingly simple though - there's no magic trick, they're just handling the waiting part so you can go about your day. I was prepared to be disappointed but honestly it worked exactly as advertised. Waiting on hold for hours is what's truly terrible.

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Micah Trail

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Well I'm eating my words. After commenting earlier, I tried Claimyr out of desperation about my refund issue. Not only did I get through to the IRS in under an hour (after trying for literally MONTHS on my own), but the agent actually helped me sort out why my refund was delayed - turns out there was a mismatch between my TIN/SSN on one of my 1099 forms. They're releasing my refund next week! I was so sure this wouldn't work but I'm genuinely shocked.

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Nia Watson

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Just wanted to add - make sure when you're submitting your TIN that the name you provide EXACTLY matches what's on your Social Security card. I had issues filing last year because I used my married name on some forms but my SS card still had my maiden name. Caused a huge headache with mismatched TINs in the system!

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Is there any way to check if your name and SSN/TIN match in the IRS systems before filing? I recently got married and changed my name on some documents but not others.

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Nia Watson

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You can verify your information matches by checking your Social Security Statement online through the SSA.gov website - create an account and make sure your name there matches what you're using on tax documents. Another option is to request a Wage and Income Transcript from the IRS (available online if you create an account on IRS.gov), which shows what information employers have reported under your SSN. If there are discrepancies, you'll need to update your name with Social Security before filing taxes to avoid processing delays.

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Harmony Love

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Don't overthink this! For 99% of people, your TIN is just your social security number. I got super confused about this when I started my first job too. The HR paperwork makes it sound more complicated than it is. Just put your SSN wherever they ask for TIN and you're good to go.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Yeah but what about for non-US citizens? My wife isn't eligible for an SSN yet but she needs a TIN for our joint filing.

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Zadie Patel

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Well, I'm eating my words. After being totally skeptical about Claimyr, I tried it yesterday because I was desperate to resolve my TIN/EIN confusion for my new LLC. I was honestly shocked when I got a call back saying they'd reached the IRS. Spent about 15 minutes on hold (way better than my previous attempts) and then talked to an actual agent who walked me through exactly which number to use on which forms. Can't believe I wasted so many hours trying to call myself. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong, and yeah, the service actually works.

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Does anyone know if international students use their SSN as their TIN too? My girlfriend is here on a student visa with an SSN and she's confused about what to put on her tax forms.

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Danielle Mays

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If your girlfriend has a valid SSN issued by the Social Security Administration, then yes, she should use that as her TIN on tax forms. If she doesn't have an SSN but needs to file taxes, she would need to apply for an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) using Form W-7. Many international students who aren't authorized to work in the US but need to file taxes for scholarship income or treaty benefits use ITINs.

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If anyone else is confused about all the different types of TINs, here's a quick breakdown I learned from my accountant: - SSN (Social Security Number): For individuals/personal taxes - EIN (Employer Identification Number): For businesses - ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number): For individuals who need to file taxes but aren't eligible for an SSN - PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number): For professional tax preparers - ATIN (Adoption Taxpayer Identification Number): Temporary number for pending adoptions Most individuals just need to know their SSN serves as their TIN!

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This is super helpful! Quick question - I have both a personal SSN and an EIN for my side business. If I'm filling out a W-9 for a client of my business, which one should I use as my TIN?

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If you're filling out a W-9 for your business, you should use your EIN as the TIN on that form. That's exactly what the EIN is for - to separate your business activities from your personal tax situation. When you use your EIN on the W-9, any 1099s your clients issue will be tied to your business rather than directly to you personally. This helps maintain the separation between your personal and business finances, which is particularly important if you have an LLC or corporation.

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Emma Morales

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does anyone know how to get a copy of your ssn/tin if you lost your card? my wallet got stolen last month and i need my number for a job application 😩

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You don't need the physical card to know your SSN! Check your tax returns, W-2s, bank statements, or credit reports - your SSN is on all of those. If you really can't find it anywhere, you can request a replacement card at ssa.gov or visit a local Social Security office, but there's a limit to how many replacement cards you can get in your lifetime.

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Joy Olmedo

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Well I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After seeing it mentioned here, I tried it when I needed to call about a missing tax refund (thought it might be related to a TIN issue). After three failed attempts to reach the IRS on my own, I gave it a shot. The service actually worked! Got a call back about 1.5 hours later and was connected immediately to an agent who helped resolve my issue. For anyone who's dealt with IRS hold times, you know this is basically a miracle. Sometimes I'm too skeptical for my own good!

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Evelyn Kelly

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One more thing to be aware of regarding TINs - make sure whatever you put on your job paperwork matches what's on your Social Security card EXACTLY. My wife had an issue where her hyphenated last name was entered incorrectly (missing the hyphen) and it caused a big headache with the IRS later because her TIN/SSN was associated with a slightly different name in their system vs. her employer's system.

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Paloma Clark

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Does this apply to middle names too? My social security card only has my middle initial but I usually write out my full middle name on forms. Could this cause problems?

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Evelyn Kelly

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Yes, it absolutely applies to middle names too! The name on tax documents should match your Social Security card precisely. If your card only shows a middle initial, then that's all you should use on tax forms. When there's a mismatch, the IRS automated system may flag it, potentially delaying processing of returns or causing notices to be sent. I've seen people have refunds held up for weeks over seemingly minor discrepancies like this. It's one of those small details that can save a lot of hassle later.

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Heather Tyson

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I'm a dual citizen and got really confused about this. For anyone in a similar situation: if you're a US citizen regardless of where you live, your TIN is your SSN. If you're a foreign person doing business in the US, you'd typically get an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) by submitting Form W-7 to the IRS.

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Raul Neal

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Thanks for mentioning this! My partner is here on a work visa and was totally confused about what to put on his tax forms.

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Zara Ahmed

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Hey Hugh! I totally get the confusion - I went through the exact same thing when I started my first job. For most U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is simply your Social Security Number (SSN). They're the same thing in your case. When your HR department asks for your TIN on tax forms, just enter your 9-digit Social Security Number. You can find it on your Social Security card, previous tax returns if you've filed any, or other official documents like bank statements. The confusion often comes from the fact that "TIN" is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax ID numbers - SSNs for individuals, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens, etc. But for a regular employee filling out job paperwork, your SSN is your TIN. Hope this helps clear things up! Don't stress about it - it's way more straightforward than it initially seems.

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Hey Hugh! I totally understand the confusion - TIN questions can be really overwhelming when you're starting a new job. For most U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is exactly the same as your Social Security Number (SSN). When your HR department asks for your TIN on those forms, just use your 9-digit SSN. You can find it on your Social Security card, any previous tax documents like W-2s or 1040 forms, or even on bank statements. The reason it seems confusing is that "TIN" is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax identification numbers - SSNs for regular individuals, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens who need to file taxes, etc. But for a standard employee situation like yours, your SSN serves as your TIN. Don't worry about putting the wrong information - if you're a U.S. citizen using your SSN, you're doing it right! The paperwork makes it sound more complicated than it actually is.

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Henry Delgado

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation as Hugh - just started my first "real" job after college and was totally confused by all the tax paperwork. It's reassuring to know that for most of us, TIN is just our SSN. I was worried I'd missed some step in getting a separate tax ID number or something. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly!

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Debra Bai

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This is such a helpful explanation! I've been putting off filling out my new job paperwork because I was so confused about this TIN vs SSN thing. I kept thinking there was some separate application process I needed to complete first. It's really reassuring to know that for most of us regular employees, it's just our Social Security Number. Thanks for breaking down why they use the term "TIN" instead of just saying SSN - the umbrella term explanation makes so much sense now!

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Hey Hugh! I totally get your confusion - this tripped me up when I started my first job too. The good news is that for most U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is exactly the same as your Social Security Number (SSN). When HR asks for your TIN on those tax forms, just enter your 9-digit SSN. You can find it on your Social Security card, any previous tax documents if you've filed before, or even on bank statements or other official paperwork. The reason it seems confusing is that TIN is actually an umbrella term covering different types of tax IDs - SSNs for individuals, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens, etc. But for a regular employee like yourself, your SSN serves as your TIN. Don't stress about it - you're not missing any steps or separate applications. Just use your SSN wherever they ask for a TIN and you'll be all set!

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing about this for days thinking I was missing some crucial step. It's such a relief to know that my SSN is my TIN - I was overthinking it completely. Thanks for explaining it so clearly, especially about TIN being an umbrella term. Now I can finally fill out these forms with confidence!

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LunarLegend

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Hey Hugh! I completely understand your confusion - I had the exact same question when I started my first job out of college. The good news is that for most U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is simply your Social Security Number (SSN). They're the same thing! When your HR department asks for your TIN on those tax forms, just enter your 9-digit Social Security Number. You can find it on your Social Security card, any previous tax returns if you've filed before, or on other official documents like bank statements or W-2s from previous jobs. The confusion happens because TIN is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax identification numbers depending on your situation - SSNs for individual citizens, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens who need to file taxes, etc. But for a regular employee filling out standard job paperwork, your SSN is your TIN. Don't worry about putting the wrong information - if you're using your SSN as a U.S. citizen, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do. The forms make it sound more complicated than it actually is!

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Thanks for this clear explanation! I'm actually in a similar boat as Hugh - just started a new job and was totally overwhelmed by all the tax terminology on these forms. It's such a relief to know that for most of us, TIN is just our SSN. I was worried I'd missed some important step or needed to apply for a separate number somewhere. Your breakdown of the different types of TINs is really helpful too - now I understand why the forms use this umbrella term instead of just saying "SSN." Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this so thoroughly!

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Lourdes Fox

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Hugh, you're definitely not alone in this confusion! As everyone has mentioned, your TIN is indeed your Social Security Number for most U.S. citizens. I just wanted to add one practical tip that helped me when I was in your shoes - if you're ever unsure about which number to use on a specific form, look for the instructions or fine print on that particular document. Most legitimate tax forms will explicitly state "Enter your Social Security Number" or "TIN (SSN for individuals)" to help clear up the confusion. Also, keep your Social Security card in a safe place at home rather than carrying it in your wallet - you really only need to reference the number, not the physical card itself. Most people have their SSN memorized after using it a few times on forms. Once you get through this first round of job paperwork, you'll feel much more confident about these tax terms!

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Liam Cortez

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Hugh, I completely understand your confusion! When I first started working, I had the exact same question and was worried about messing up my tax paperwork. For most U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is exactly the same as your Social Security Number (SSN). So when your HR department asks for your TIN, just use your 9-digit SSN that you'll find on your Social Security card. The reason this seems confusing is that TIN is actually a broad category that includes different types of tax ID numbers depending on your situation: - SSN for individual U.S. citizens (which is what you'll use) - EIN (Employer Identification Number) for businesses - ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) for certain non-citizens But for regular employment paperwork as a U.S. citizen, your SSN serves as your TIN. You're not missing any steps or applications - just enter your Social Security Number wherever they ask for a TIN and you'll be all set! The forms make it sound way more complicated than it actually is. Don't stress about it - you've got this!

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Luca Conti

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This is such a helpful thread! I was literally in the same boat last month when I started my new job. The HR forms made it sound like I needed some special tax ID number that I'd never heard of. It's really reassuring to see that so many people have had this same confusion and that the answer is actually pretty straightforward. Thanks to everyone who's explained this - definitely saving this thread for future reference when I inevitably forget and panic again next tax season!

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Liam O'Reilly

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Hey Hugh! I totally understand your confusion - this is one of those things that sounds way more complicated than it actually is. For most U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is simply your Social Security Number (SSN). They're the exact same thing! When you're filling out that job paperwork and they ask for your TIN, just enter your 9-digit Social Security Number. You can find it on your Social Security card, any previous tax documents if you've filed before, or even on bank statements or other official paperwork where your SSN appears. The reason this seems confusing is that "TIN" is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax identification numbers depending on your situation - SSNs for individual citizens, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens, etc. But for regular employment paperwork as a U.S. citizen, your SSN serves as your TIN. Don't worry about putting the wrong information - if you're using your SSN, you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do. The HR department probably uses "TIN" on their forms because it's the official IRS terminology, but they're really just asking for your Social Security Number. You've got this!

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Oliver Schulz

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Hey Hugh! I totally get the confusion - I was in the exact same boat when I started my first job. The good news is that for most U.S. citizens, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is simply your Social Security Number (SSN). They're the same thing! When your HR department asks for your TIN on those forms, just enter your 9-digit SSN. You can find it on your Social Security card, previous tax returns if you've filed any, or other official documents like W-2s or bank statements. The reason it seems confusing is because TIN is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax ID numbers - SSNs for individuals, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens, etc. But for a regular employee like yourself, your SSN serves as your TIN. Don't stress about it - you're not missing any steps or separate applications. Just use your SSN wherever they ask for a TIN and you'll be all set! The paperwork makes it sound way more complicated than it actually is.

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Oscar Murphy

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Hey Hugh! I completely understand your confusion - this is actually one of the most common questions people have when starting new jobs. The good news is that for U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is exactly the same as your Social Security Number (SSN). When your HR department asks for your TIN on those tax forms, simply enter your 9-digit Social Security Number. You can find this number on your Social Security card, any previous tax documents you might have, or even on bank statements or other official paperwork. The confusion happens because TIN is an umbrella term that covers several different types of tax identification numbers depending on your situation: - SSN for individual U.S. citizens (this is what you'll use) - EIN for businesses - ITIN for certain non-citizens who need to file taxes But for standard employment paperwork as a U.S. citizen, your SSN is your TIN. You don't need to apply for anything separate or additional - just use the Social Security Number you already have. Don't worry about making a mistake - if you're entering your SSN when they ask for a TIN, you're doing exactly the right thing! The forms often use official IRS terminology which can make simple things sound more complicated than they are.

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Nia Thompson

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Hey Hugh! I totally get your confusion - I was in the exact same situation when I started my first job after college. The terminology on those HR forms can be really intimidating! For most U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is simply your Social Security Number (SSN). They're the same thing! When the forms ask for your TIN, just enter your 9-digit SSN. You can find your SSN on your Social Security card, any previous tax documents if you've filed before, or even on bank statements or other official paperwork where it appears. The reason this seems confusing is that "TIN" is actually an umbrella term that covers different types of tax identification numbers: - SSN for individual U.S. citizens (which is what you'll use) - EIN for businesses - ITIN for certain non-citizens who need to file taxes But for regular employment paperwork as a U.S. citizen, your SSN serves as your TIN. You don't need to apply for anything separate - just use the Social Security Number you already have! Don't stress about it - the forms make it sound way more complicated than it actually is. You're doing fine, and using your SSN when they ask for a TIN is exactly what you're supposed to do.

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QuantumQuasar

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Hey Hugh! I totally understand the confusion - this tripped me up when I first started working too. For most U.S. citizens like yourself, your TIN (taxpayer identification number) is exactly the same as your Social Security Number (SSN). When your HR department asks for your TIN on those forms, just enter your 9-digit SSN. You can find it on your Social Security card, previous tax returns if you've filed any, or other official documents like bank statements. The confusion comes from the fact that TIN is actually an umbrella term covering different types of tax ID numbers - SSNs for individuals, EINs for businesses, ITINs for certain non-citizens, etc. But for regular employment paperwork as a U.S. citizen, your SSN is your TIN. Don't worry about putting the wrong information - you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do by using your SSN when they ask for a TIN. The forms make it sound more complicated than it really is!

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