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Katherine Ziminski

When selling a car for profit, I owe capital gains tax. So why can't I claim a capital loss when selling a car below purchase price?

So I've been looking into this whole car selling thing and I'm really confused about the tax situation. I bought a classic Mustang back in 2018 for $28,000, put about $7,000 into restoration, and was planning to keep it as a weekend car. Well, life happened and I had to sell it this year for $22,500 - way less than what I put into it. Here's what I don't understand: if I had sold the car for a profit (like if I'd gotten $40k for it), the IRS would definitely want their share of that as capital gains. But since I took a loss of about $12,500, why can't I claim that as a capital loss on my taxes? It seems completely unfair that profits are taxable but losses aren't deductible. I've looked around online and keep seeing something about "personal use property" but I don't really understand why cars are treated differently than other assets. Can someone explain this in normal human language? I'm doing my taxes for 2024 and trying to figure out if there's any way to recoup some of this loss.

Noah Irving

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This is a great question that confuses a lot of people! The tax code makes a distinction between investment/business assets and personal-use assets, and unfortunately, most cars fall into the personal-use category. Here's the simplified explanation: The IRS only allows capital loss deductions on investment and business property - things you buy with the intention of making a profit. They don't allow deductions for losses on personal-use property (like your car, furniture, boat, etc.) because these items are considered personal consumption rather than investments. Think of it like buying groceries or clothes - you don't get to deduct the "loss" when they depreciate or get used up. The IRS views your personal car the same way - as something you bought for personal use and enjoyment, not as an investment. There are exceptions though! If you can prove you bought the car specifically as an investment (like a rare collector's car you never drove and only held for appreciation), or if you used it exclusively for business, you might be able to claim the loss. But for typical personal vehicles, even classic cars that you drove occasionally, you generally can't deduct the loss.

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Thanks for explaining that, but it still feels extremely unfair. If I had sold that Mustang for $10k more than I paid, they'd have no problem taking taxes from me on the gain! So why not allow the loss when it goes the other way? Also, how would I prove something was purchased as an "investment" vs personal use? I did drive the Mustang on weekends, but it was always my intention to restore it and eventually sell it for more.

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Noah Irving

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You're absolutely right that it feels unfair - many taxpayers share that frustration! The IRS operates on the principle that personal assets are for enjoyment, and depreciation is an expected cost of that enjoyment. When you make a profit though, they view that as unexpected income that should be taxed. Proving investment intent is challenging but possible. Documentation helps - things like business plans showing investment intent, keeping it stored rather than driving it, having it appraised regularly, maintaining records of similar vehicles appreciating, and possibly setting up a formal business entity for your car collecting activities. The key factor is demonstrating that your primary purpose was investment rather than personal enjoyment. Unfortunately, weekend driving would likely classify it as personal use in the IRS's view, even if you also hoped it would appreciate.

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Jade Santiago

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Everyone is missing one important exception! I've been dealing with car losses and capital gains for years. If you can prove the car was purchased PRIMARILY as an investment (NOT for personal use AT ALL), you CAN claim capital losses. I successfully did this with a 1957 Corvette I purchased, stored properly, never drove, and then sold at a loss due to market timing. The key points that the IRS accepted: - Car was never registered for street use - Kept in climate-controlled storage - Professionally maintained with documentation - Had appraisals done regularly - I had a documented history of car investments - Never used for personal enjoyment (no driving) The burden of proof is on you, but it IS possible to claim these losses if you treat the vehicle truly as an investment property.

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Caleb Stone

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How did you document "never used for personal enjoyment"? That seems almost impossible to prove. Did you have to provide some kind of specific evidence?

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Jade Santiago

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Great question - documenting "no personal use" required multiple types of evidence. I kept mileage logs showing the car only moved for maintenance/transportation to shows (which I documented as investment-related activities). The car remained on a trickle charger in storage with security camera timestamps showing it wasn't taken out. I maintained minimal insurance that specifically excluded regular driving coverage. The most compelling evidence was the vehicle's condition - having a professional document that it showed no signs of regular use (original tires, etc.) and expert testimony that driving would have reduced its investment value. The IRS examiner was particularly interested in seeing that I treated it differently from my other vehicles and that my behavior was consistent with investment intent rather than enjoyment.

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Daniel Price

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Just to clarify something that seems to be causing confusion in this thread - there's an important distinction between truly collectible/investment vehicles and regular cars that happen to be a bit special. For a regular car (even if it's a nice classic that you drive on weekends), you generally CANNOT deduct the loss. These are personal-use assets. For cars held EXCLUSIVELY as collectible investments, you potentially CAN deduct losses, but you need extensive documentation showing investment intent. For cars used in a BUSINESS (like a restoration business, car dealer, etc.), losses are generally deductible as business expenses. Most people fall into the first category and can't deduct losses, which is why the general advice is that car losses aren't deductible. Most folks simply can't meet the strict requirements for the exceptions.

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Olivia Evans

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This matches what my tax guy told me. I tried to claim a loss on my Ferrari that I sold for $40k less than I paid after owning it for 5 years. Even though it was rare and collectible, I had put about 7,000 miles on it over the years. Tax guy said the driving killed any chance of claiming it as an investment loss since it showed personal enjoyment/use.

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Freya Nielsen

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This is such a frustrating aspect of the tax code that catches so many people off guard! I went through something similar with a vintage truck I had to sell at a loss during COVID when I needed cash fast. What really helped me understand the situation was learning about the "personal use presumption" - basically, the IRS assumes that unless you can prove otherwise with solid documentation, any vehicle you own is for personal use and enjoyment. Even if you barely drive it, even if it's rare or collectible, the default assumption is personal use. The harsh reality is that the tax code is designed this way intentionally. Personal assets like cars, boats, jewelry, etc. are expected to depreciate as part of their normal use cycle. The IRS views this depreciation as the "cost" of enjoying these items, similar to how you can't deduct the loss when your furniture gets old or your clothes wear out. What I learned from my tax advisor is that if you're serious about treating vehicles as investments going forward, you need to set up that framework BEFORE you buy, not after. This means business entities, proper documentation, storage agreements, maintenance logs, and most importantly - never using them personally. It's a pretty high bar to meet, but it is possible if you're committed to treating it as a true investment rather than a hobby that might make money.

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I wish I had found when I was going through this! The "personal use presumption" concept really helps explain why the burden of proof is so high for claiming these as investment losses. Your point about setting up the framework BEFORE buying is crucial - I think that's where most people (myself included) go wrong. We buy something we genuinely like and hope it appreciates, but we don't treat it like a true investment from day one. By the time we want to claim it as an investment loss, it's too late to establish that documentation trail. Do you know if there's any specific IRS guidance on what constitutes adequate "business entity" setup for vehicle investments? I'm wondering if an LLC specifically for collectible investments would be enough, or if you need something more formal.

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