What is Form 990-T and when does it apply to IRA investments with MLPs?
I got this weird letter from Vanguard about providing deduction info for some Master Limited Partnership (MLP) investments in my Roth IRA. Apparently they'll decide if 990-T filings are needed if something called Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) from my MLP investment exceeds $1000. Looking at my Roth investments, I bought about 25 shares of EPD at $43 back in 2021, and some more in 3/22. They're currently underwater so I guess I don't need to worry about paying any tax or excise fee (that's what the letter says anyway). I'm just trying to understand: 1. What exactly is Form 990-T? Who has to file it? 2. What is UBI and why is it connected to my EPD investment? And why do they call it an "excise fee" instead of a tax? 3. So if I eventually make $1000+ profit in the future by selling EPD, would I need to pay this excise fee and report income to the IRS on Form 990-T?
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Luis Johnson
Form 990-T is actually a tax return used by tax-exempt organizations, including IRAs, to report "unrelated business taxable income" (UBTI). Even though your Roth IRA is generally tax-exempt, certain investments like MLPs (Master Limited Partnerships) can generate income that's considered unrelated to the tax-exempt purpose of the retirement account. MLPs like EPD often engage in active business operations and pass through income to investors. When held in tax-exempt accounts like your Roth, this creates UBTI. If that income exceeds $1,000 in a year, the IRA custodian (Vanguard in your case) needs to file Form 990-T. The reason it's called an "excise fee" is because it's essentially a tax on income that would normally be tax-exempt - it's the government's way of preventing tax-exempt entities from running businesses tax-free that compete with regular taxable businesses. Since your investment is currently at a loss, you don't need to worry about this right now. But yes, if your EPD investment eventually generates significant income (over $1,000 UBTI), your custodian would file the 990-T and you'd effectively pay tax on that portion, even within your Roth IRA.
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Ellie Kim
•So does this mean I should avoid MLPs in my retirement accounts completely? I have some MPLX in my traditional IRA and never got any letters about this.
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Luis Johnson
•Many investors do avoid MLPs in retirement accounts specifically because of these UBTI complications. The tax advantages that make MLPs attractive in taxable accounts can actually create tax headaches in tax-exempt accounts like IRAs. For your MPLX holdings, it's possible the UBTI generated hasn't crossed the $1,000 threshold that triggers reporting requirements. Different MLPs generate different levels of UBTI, and the amount can vary year to year based on the partnership's operations and profitability.
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Fiona Sand
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Mohammad Khaled
•Does this tool actually work with all brokerages? I have accounts at several different places and dealing with these tax documents is getting ridiculous.
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Alina Rosenthal
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Fiona Sand
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Mohammad Khaled
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Finnegan Gunn
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Miguel Harvey
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Ashley Simian
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Finnegan Gunn
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Ashley Simian
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Oliver Cheng
An important point about MLPs in retirement accounts - the UBTI calculation can be complex. It's not just about whether you sold for a profit. MLPs generate UBTI through their ongoing operations, which flows to your account even if you never sell the shares. So you could potentially trigger Form 990-T filing requirements just by holding the MLP and receiving distributions, even without selling. This is why many investors prefer MLP ETFs (like AMLP or MLPA) in retirement accounts, as they're structured to avoid the UBTI issues.
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Jasmine Hernandez
•Wait so even if I don't sell my EPD shares, I could still end up with this UBTI thing just from holding them? How would I even know how much UBTI is being generated?
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Oliver Cheng
•Exactly. MLPs pass through income (and losses) to partners regardless of whether you sell your shares. This is part of their partnership structure and what makes them different from regular corporations. Your MLP should provide you with a Schedule K-1 each year that breaks down different types of income, including amounts that could generate UBTI. However, the custodian of your IRA (Vanguard) is responsible for tracking this for investments held in your retirement account and filing the 990-T if necessary. That's why they sent you that letter - they're requesting information about possible deductions to offset any UBTI.
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Taylor To
For what its worth, I ditched individual MLPs in my retirement accounts after dealing with this 990-T headache for two years. Switched to the Global X MLP ETF instead, which avoids the UBTI issue completely while still giving exposure to the sector.
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Ella Cofer
•Did you see any difference in the distributions after switching to the ETF? I'm debating doing the same thing but don't want to lose the income.
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Giovanni Rossi
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with some KMI shares in my traditional IRA. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like the key takeaway is that MLPs can generate UBTI regardless of whether you sell them, just from their ongoing business operations. @Jasmine Hernandez - to answer your question about knowing how much UBTI is generated, your MLP should send a Schedule K-1 each year that breaks down the different types of income. But since it's in your IRA, Vanguard handles the tracking and will file the 990-T if your UBTI exceeds $1,000. I'm seriously considering switching to MLP ETFs after reading this. The tax complications seem to outweigh the benefits when holding individual MLPs in retirement accounts. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world info you can't easily find elsewhere!
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Ravi Patel
•@Giovanni Rossi Thanks for the great summary! I m'new to this community but have been lurking and learning so much from everyone s'experiences. I just opened my first IRA last year and was looking at some energy investments, but after reading through all these comments I m'definitely steering clear of individual MLPs. The MLP ETF route seems like the smart move - getting the sector exposure without the tax headaches. It s'amazing how complex these retirement account rules can get! Really appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences with the 990-T forms and UBTI issues.
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Eduardo Silva
Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been dealing with retirement account tax issues for years, I wanted to add a few practical tips for anyone holding MLPs in IRAs: 1. Keep detailed records of ALL correspondence from your custodian about UBTI - you'll need this if questions arise later 2. Don't panic if you get that initial letter from your broker - they're just being proactive about potential 990-T filing requirements 3. Consider the "hassle factor" vs returns when deciding whether to keep MLPs in retirement accounts @Jasmine Hernandez - since your EPD position is currently underwater, you're likely safe from UBTI concerns for now. But if the position recovers and starts generating significant income, you might want to consider the ETF route that others have mentioned. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that some brokers are better than others at handling these MLP tax complications. Might be worth asking Vanguard specifically about their process for tracking and reporting UBTI before you make any major decisions about your holdings.
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Miguel Hernández
•@Eduardo Silva This is incredibly helpful advice! I m'completely new to investing and just started my first Roth IRA a few months ago. I was actually looking at some energy sector investments and had EPD on my watchlist, but after reading through this entire thread I m'realizing I had no idea about these UBTI complications. Your point about asking the broker directly about their MLP handling process is really smart. I m'with Fidelity - has anyone here dealt with them specifically on 990-T issues? It sounds like different brokers might handle this differently based on what people are saying. Also, the MLP ETF route that several people mentioned seems like the way to go for beginners like me. Getting the energy exposure without all the tax complexity makes so much more sense when you re'just starting out. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical knowledge you can t'get from generic investment guides!
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Natalie Chen
This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm relatively new to this community but have been researching retirement account strategies. After reading everyone's experiences with MLPs and UBTI, I'm convinced that MLP ETFs are the way to go for retirement accounts. One thing I wanted to add - I recently spoke with a tax professional about this exact issue, and they mentioned that the UBTI rules apply to all tax-exempt entities, not just IRAs. So if anyone has MLPs in 401(k)s, 403(b)s, or other retirement plans, the same $1,000 threshold and Form 990-T requirements would apply. @Jasmine Hernandez - since you mentioned your EPD shares are currently underwater, you might want to consider this an opportunity to reassess whether individual MLPs make sense in your Roth IRA long-term. The tax-free growth benefit of a Roth could potentially be offset by the UBTI complications if the investment recovers significantly. Thanks to everyone who shared their practical experiences with brokers, tax tools, and IRS interactions. This is exactly the kind of real-world knowledge that makes this community so valuable!
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Oliver Weber
•@Natalie Chen Thanks for pointing out that UBTI rules apply to all retirement accounts, not just IRAs! That s'a crucial detail I hadn t'considered. I have both a 401 k(and) Roth IRA, so this definitely affects my investment strategy across both accounts. Your suggestion about this being an opportunity to reassess makes a lot of sense. Reading through everyone s'experiences here, it seems like the consensus is pretty clear - individual MLPs in retirement accounts create more complications than they re'worth for most investors. The MLP ETF route gives you the sector exposure without the tax headaches. I m'still pretty new to this community too, but the quality of real-world advice here is amazing. It s'one thing to read generic investment articles, but hearing actual experiences with specific brokers, tax tools, and IRS interactions is invaluable. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge - definitely saving me from making some costly mistakes as I build my retirement portfolio!
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Olivia Harris
This has been such an enlightening discussion! I'm fairly new to both investing and this community, but I've learned more about MLPs and retirement accounts in this thread than from hours of online research. The key takeaways I'm getting are: 1. MLPs can generate UBTI in retirement accounts even without selling 2. The $1,000 threshold triggers Form 990-T filing by your custodian 3. MLP ETFs avoid these complications while still providing sector exposure 4. Different brokers handle this differently, so it's worth asking about their processes @Jasmine Hernandez - your situation with EPD being underwater actually gives you a good opportunity to decide whether to stick with individual MLPs or switch to ETFs before any UBTI issues arise. Based on everyone's experiences here, the ETF route seems much simpler for retirement accounts. I'm also impressed by the practical tools people have mentioned - both for analyzing tax documents and actually getting through to the IRS when needed. Those seem like valuable resources for anyone dealing with complex retirement account tax issues. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences. This is exactly why community discussions are so much more valuable than generic financial advice articles!
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Ethan Brown
•@Olivia Harris This thread has been a goldmine of information! As someone who just joined this community, I m'amazed at how generous everyone has been with sharing their actual experiences. I was actually considering adding some EPD to my new Roth IRA after seeing the high dividend yield, but now I understand why that might not be the best idea. The distinction between MLPs generating UBTI from ongoing operations versus just capital gains was completely new to me. I had no idea you could trigger tax complications in a retirement account just from holding certain investments, even without selling them! I m'definitely going to look into those MLP ETFs that @Taylor To and others mentioned. Getting energy sector exposure without the Form 990-T headaches seems like a much smarter approach, especially for someone just starting out like me. Thanks to everyone who shared their broker experiences and tool recommendations too. It s clear'that being proactive about understanding these rules can save a lot of headaches down the road. This community is incredible for getting real, practical advice you can t find'anywhere else!
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Amara Adeyemi
Just wanted to chime in as someone who's been lurking on this community for a while but is new to commenting. This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in my early 30s and just started maxing out my Roth IRA contributions last year. I was actually looking at some MLP investments after seeing the attractive yields, but reading through everyone's real experiences with UBTI and Form 990-T has completely changed my perspective. The idea that you could trigger tax complications in a supposedly tax-free account just from holding certain investments was totally foreign to me. @Jasmine Hernandez - it sounds like you're in a similar boat to where I was a few months ago, trying to understand these complex rules. Based on what everyone has shared, it seems like the MLP ETF route really is the way to go for retirement accounts. You get the energy sector exposure without all the tax filing headaches. I'm also bookmarking some of the tools people mentioned for analyzing investment tax implications. Prevention is definitely better than trying to sort out complicated tax situations after the fact. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, practical advice - this is exactly why I love this community!
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Dylan Mitchell
•@Amara Adeyemi Welcome to commenting! I m'also pretty new here but have been learning so much from this community. Your situation sounds almost identical to mine - I m'in my early 30s and was attracted to those high MLP yields without realizing the retirement account complications. What really opened my eyes in this thread was learning that UBTI can be generated just from holding MLPs, not just from selling them. That completely changes the risk-reward calculation for retirement accounts where you want to minimize tax complications. I m'definitely going to research those MLP ETFs that several people recommended. It seems like the perfect solution - you still get exposure to the energy infrastructure space but without all the Form 990-T headaches. Plus, as someone just starting to build wealth, keeping things simple in retirement accounts makes a lot of sense. Thanks for adding your perspective! It s'helpful to know there are others in similar situations trying to navigate these complex investment rules. This community really is amazing for getting practical, real-world advice from people who ve'actually dealt with these issues firsthand.
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Hannah White
As someone new to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm in a very similar situation to @Jasmine Hernandez. I have some MLP holdings in my traditional IRA that I've been wondering about after getting some confusing paperwork from my broker. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly enlightening - especially learning that UBTI can be generated just from holding MLPs, not just from selling them. I had no idea that certain investments could potentially create tax complications even within tax-advantaged retirement accounts. The consensus here seems pretty clear that MLP ETFs are the way to go for retirement accounts. You get the energy sector exposure and income potential without the Form 990-T headaches. I'm definitely going to research some of the ETF options that @Taylor To and others have mentioned. I'm also impressed by the practical tools and services people have shared for dealing with these tax complexities. It's clear that being proactive about understanding these rules can save a lot of headaches down the road. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, real-world experiences. This is exactly the kind of practical knowledge you can't get from generic investment guides, and it's why community discussions like this are so valuable for investors at all levels!
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Javier Morales
•@Hannah White Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds very familiar - I think many of us have been in similar spots trying to figure out these MLP complexities in retirement accounts. It s'really eye-opening how something that seems straightforward buying (dividend-paying stocks in an IRA can) have these hidden tax implications. I m'also relatively new to investing and this community, but this thread has been incredibly educational. The fact that MLPs can generate UBTI just from their ongoing business operations, regardless of whether you sell, was completely news to me. It really makes you appreciate why so many experienced investors recommend keeping things simple in retirement accounts. The MLP ETF route that everyone s'discussing seems like such a smart compromise - you still get exposure to the energy infrastructure sector and decent income, but without all the Form 990-T complications. I m'definitely going to do some research on the specific ETFs people mentioned. Thanks for sharing your experience too! It s'helpful to know there are others navigating these same questions. This community really is amazing for getting practical advice from people who ve'actually dealt with these issues firsthand rather than just theoretical knowledge.
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Emma Davis
As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through this entire discussion and it's been incredibly educational! I just opened my first Roth IRA a few months ago and was actually considering some MLP investments after seeing the attractive dividend yields. This thread has completely changed my perspective. The concept that certain investments can generate taxable income even within a tax-advantaged retirement account was totally foreign to me. Learning that MLPs can create UBTI just from their ongoing operations - not just when you sell - is a crucial distinction I never would have understood without everyone's real-world experiences here. @Jasmine Hernandez - it sounds like you're getting some great advice from the community. Since your EPD position is currently underwater, this might actually be a good opportunity to reassess whether individual MLPs make sense in your Roth IRA long-term, especially given all the Form 990-T complications people have described. The consensus around MLP ETFs seems really compelling - you get the energy sector exposure and income potential without the tax filing headaches. As someone just starting out, keeping my retirement accounts simple and avoiding unnecessary complications feels like the smart move. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, practical experiences. This is exactly the kind of real-world knowledge that makes this community so valuable for new investors!
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Omar Zaki
•@Emma Davis Welcome to the community! Your timing is perfect - this thread has been such a comprehensive deep dive into MLP complexities that you re'getting years worth of learning compressed into one discussion. I m'also relatively new here and have been amazed by how generous everyone has been with sharing their actual experiences. It s'really striking how many of us newcomers were attracted to those high MLP yields without understanding the retirement account implications. The UBTI concept was completely new to me too - the idea that you could accidentally create tax complications in what s'supposed to be a tax-sheltered account is pretty counterintuitive. Based on everything shared here, the MLP ETF approach really does seem like the perfect solution for retirement accounts. You get the energy infrastructure exposure and decent yields, but without having to worry about Form 990-T filings or UBTI thresholds. For those of us just starting our investment journey, keeping things straightforward makes so much sense. I m'definitely bookmarking this thread as a reference - it s'packed with practical insights you just can t'find in generic investment guides. This community is incredible for getting real-world advice from people who ve'actually navigated these complex situations!
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Paige Cantoni
As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with fascination! I'm in my late 20s and just started contributing to my first Roth IRA last year. I was actually researching energy investments and had MLPs on my radar after seeing those attractive dividend yields, but this thread has been a real eye-opener. The whole concept of UBTI was completely unknown to me - I had no idea that certain investments could potentially create tax complications even within a tax-advantaged retirement account. Learning that MLPs can generate this taxable income just from their ongoing business operations, regardless of whether you sell shares, is such an important distinction that I never would have discovered on my own. @Jasmine Hernandez - your original question sparked such a valuable discussion! It seems like you're getting excellent advice from the community. Given that your EPD position is currently at a loss, this might actually be perfect timing to evaluate whether keeping individual MLPs in your Roth makes sense long-term, especially considering all the Form 990-T complications everyone has described. The overwhelming consensus here about MLP ETFs being a better choice for retirement accounts is really compelling. You still get exposure to the energy infrastructure sector and decent income, but without all the tax filing headaches. As someone just building my investment knowledge, keeping my retirement accounts straightforward and avoiding unnecessary complications definitely appeals to me. I'm also impressed by the practical resources people have shared - both the tax analysis tools and services for actually reaching the IRS when needed. It's clear that being proactive about understanding these rules can save major headaches down the road. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, real-world experiences. This is exactly why community discussions are so much more valuable than generic investment articles - you're getting practical wisdom from people who've actually dealt with these complex situations firsthand!
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Dylan Wright
•@Paige Cantoni Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds exactly like mine when I first started investing - those high MLP yields are really tempting until you understand all the complications they can create in retirement accounts. This thread has been such a masterclass in why it s'important to understand the tax implications of investments before diving in. What really struck me from everyone s'experiences is how the UBTI issue isn t'just theoretical - people here have actually dealt with the Form 990-T filings, the confusing broker letters, and the hassle of trying to get answers from the IRS. It makes the MLP ETF route seem like such an obvious choice for retirement accounts, especially when you re'just starting out. I m'also in my late 20s and building my first serious retirement portfolio, so keeping things simple while still getting good diversification feels like the right approach. The energy sector exposure through ETFs gives us what we re'looking for without the tax headaches that could complicate things years down the road. Thanks for adding your perspective! It s'encouraging to see other newcomers asking the right questions and learning from this community s'collective wisdom. That s'exactly how we avoid making costly mistakes early in our investing journey.
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Gabrielle Dubois
As someone completely new to this community and investing in general, this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I just opened my first Roth IRA a couple months ago and was actually looking at some energy sector investments, including EPD that @Jasmine Hernandez mentioned. Reading through everyone's real experiences with UBTI and Form 990-T complications has completely changed my investment approach. I had no clue that certain holdings could create tax issues even within a tax-sheltered retirement account - the idea that MLPs generate taxable income just from their ongoing operations, not from selling, was totally foreign to me. The consensus here around MLP ETFs being a smarter choice for retirement accounts makes perfect sense. You get the energy infrastructure exposure and income without all the Form 990-T headaches that everyone's described. As a complete beginner, keeping my retirement investments simple while I'm learning definitely feels like the right move. I'm also bookmarking the practical resources people shared - those tax analysis tools and IRS contact services could be lifesavers down the road. It's amazing how much real-world wisdom is packed into this discussion compared to generic investment guides. Thanks to everyone for being so generous with sharing your actual experiences. This is exactly why I joined this community - getting practical advice from people who've navigated these complex situations firsthand is incredibly valuable for someone just starting their investment journey!
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