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How are preferred stock dividends taxed in a Master Limited Partnership (MLP) held within an IRA?

I'm worried I may have messed up my retirement account taxes. I recently purchased some preferred units in Energy Transfer (an MLP) within my IRA without considering the potential tax implications. Now I'm concerned about how these dividends are treated for tax purposes. From what I've read online, regular MLP units generate Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI) when held in tax-advantaged accounts like IRAs. But I'm not clear if the preferred units follow the same tax treatment or if they're somehow different. Does anyone know if dividends from preferred units in an MLP are treated the same way as regular units when held in an IRA? Are they also considered UBTI that might trigger tax filing requirements for my retirement account? I'm hoping there's some exception for preferred shares, but I have a sinking feeling I should have researched this before investing.

You're right to be concerned. Unfortunately, preferred units in a Master Limited Partnership like Energy Transfer are generally treated the same as common units for tax purposes when held in an IRA. This means they can potentially generate Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI). The key issue is the underlying business structure of MLPs, not the type of security itself. Since MLPs are pass-through entities, the income they generate - whether distributed to common unitholders or preferred unitholders - typically maintains its tax character. If the MLP's operations generate UBTI, that flows through to all types of unitholders. When UBTI exceeds $1,000 in a tax year within your IRA, the IRA itself (not you personally) would need to file Form 990-T and potentially pay taxes. This creates an administrative headache and potential tax liability within an account that's supposed to be tax-advantaged.

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Wait, so even though preferred shares usually have more fixed dividend-like payments, they're still treated like partnerships for tax purposes? Does this apply to all MLPs or just certain ones? I've been thinking about buying some MLP shares for the yield but definitely don't want the tax headache.

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Yes, that's correct. Despite having more predictable, fixed payments similar to dividends, preferred units in MLPs still retain the partnership tax treatment. This applies to virtually all MLPs because it's based on the company's underlying business structure and how it's classified for tax purposes. The distinction between preferred and common units matters for things like payment priority and stability, but not for the fundamental tax character of the distributions. Both types of units receive partnership income that flows through with its original tax characteristics intact.

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How does taxr.ai handle K-1s from multiple MLPs? I have three different ones across various accounts and trying to figure out which ones might cause UBTI issues in my retirement accounts vs regular brokerage.

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it actually determine UBTI specifically for preferred units when most documentation doesn't clearly separate the tax treatment? Does it just assume all MLP income is potentially UBTI or does it actually analyze the underlying income sources?

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For what it's worth, I learned this lesson the hard way last year with MPLX preferred units in my Roth IRA. My custodian charged me a $300 fee to file the 990-T plus the tax payment itself. I've since moved all my MLP investments (both common and preferred) to my taxable brokerage account. While you do pay taxes on the distributions in a taxable account, at least you benefit from the return of capital portion reducing your tax basis. Plus you avoid the UBTI headache altogether. The tax treatment in a regular account is actually one of the advantages of MLPs - tax-deferred distributions that reduce your basis instead of being immediately taxable.

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Does this apply to all energy companies or just those structured as MLPs? I have some Chevron and Exxon in my IRA but those are regular corporations, right? Not partnerships?

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You're absolutely right to make that distinction. This only applies to companies structured as Master Limited Partnerships. Regular corporations like Chevron and Exxon, even though they're in the energy sector, don't create these UBTI issues when held in IRAs because they're C-corporations, not partnerships. The partnership structure is what creates the pass-through taxation that can generate UBTI. With regular corporations, the dividends you receive in your IRA are just standard qualified dividends, which don't trigger UBTI concerns or require additional tax filings when held in retirement accounts.

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Has anyone considered just calling Energy Transfer's investor relations department directly? I had a similar question about their preferred units last year and they sent me a detailed breakdown of what portion of distributions typically creates UBTI. It varies year to year but they could give you historical percentages.

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Good suggestion! I called Phillips 66 Partners (another MLP) last month with tax questions and they were surprisingly helpful. They even emailed me an FAQ sheet specifically about their securities in retirement accounts.

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Exactly! These investor relations departments deal with these questions all the time. When I called Energy Transfer, they not only explained the historical UBTI percentages but also directed me to resources on their website where they publish annual tax characteristic breakdowns. This information can help you estimate the potential UBTI impact before it becomes a filing issue.

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Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this has been incredibly helpful! Based on all the responses, it's clear I did mess up by not researching this beforehand. The consensus seems to be that preferred MLP units generate UBTI just like common units when held in an IRA. I'm going to take a multi-pronged approach: first, I'll call Energy Transfer's investor relations to get their historical UBTI breakdown as Maria suggested. Then I'll contact my IRA custodian to understand their process for handling Form 990-T filings and any associated fees. Given what Zoe mentioned about the $300 filing fee plus potential taxes, I'm seriously considering moving these holdings to my taxable account before the UBTI becomes a bigger issue. The tax-deferred nature of MLP distributions in a regular brokerage account actually sounds more advantageous than dealing with UBTI complications in my retirement account. Has anyone here successfully transferred MLP units from an IRA to a taxable account, or would that be considered a distribution that triggers immediate tax consequences?

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Unfortunately, you can't directly transfer securities from an IRA to a taxable account - any removal from the IRA would be considered a distribution and trigger immediate tax consequences plus potential penalties if you're under 59½. You'd have to sell the MLP units within the IRA, take a cash distribution (which would be taxable), and then repurchase the securities in your taxable account with after-tax dollars. Before making that move though, I'd suggest waiting to see your actual K-1 and calculating the real UBTI impact. Sometimes the theoretical concern is worse than the actual tax hit. If the UBTI is minimal and your custodian's fees are reasonable, it might be worth keeping the position in the IRA, especially if you believe in the long-term income potential of the preferred units.

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I've been through this exact situation with Energy Transfer preferred units in my IRA. Here's what I learned from my experience: First, yes - preferred MLP units absolutely generate UBTI just like common units. The partnership structure means all the income flows through with its original tax character intact, regardless of whether you hold common or preferred units. Second, don't panic about the immediate impact. In my case, the actual UBTI from Energy Transfer's preferred units was around $800 last year, which stayed under the $1,000 threshold that triggers Form 990-T filing requirements. The key is understanding that not 100% of your distributions will be UBTI - it depends on the underlying income sources of the MLP. Third, I'd strongly recommend getting your hands on last year's K-1 for Energy Transfer (you can usually find these on their investor relations website) to see the historical breakdown of income types. This will give you a realistic picture of what to expect rather than worrying about hypothetical worst-case scenarios. Finally, regarding transferring out of your IRA - as others mentioned, you can't do a direct transfer. But before taking a taxable distribution, wait to see your actual tax impact. The filing fees and potential taxes might still be less costly than the immediate tax hit and loss of tax-advantaged space in your retirement account.

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This is really helpful, Diego! Your point about checking the historical K-1s is smart - I didn't realize you could access previous years' forms on their website. The fact that you stayed under the $1,000 UBTI threshold gives me some hope that maybe I'm not in as bad a situation as I initially feared. Do you happen to remember what percentage of your distributions from the Energy Transfer preferred units ended up being classified as UBTI? I'm trying to get a ballpark estimate of what I might be looking at. Also, did your IRA custodian charge any fees even though you didn't have to file the 990-T, or do they only charge when the filing is actually required? I'm definitely going to look up those historical K-1s before making any hasty decisions about moving the position out of my IRA.

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From my Energy Transfer preferred units, roughly 40-45% of the distributions were classified as UBTI. This was actually lower than I expected based on some of the horror stories I'd read online about MLPs in retirement accounts. My custodian (Fidelity) didn't charge any fees since we stayed under the $1,000 threshold. They only charge their $300 processing fee when they actually have to prepare and file Form 990-T. However, they did send me a letter explaining the UBTI situation and letting me know they were tracking it, which was helpful for my own records. One thing I learned is that Energy Transfer has been pretty consistent in their UBTI percentages over the past few years - usually in that 40-50% range for preferred units. So if you're getting smaller distributions or only held the position for part of the year, you might well stay under the filing threshold like I did.

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