< Back to IRS

Liam O'Donnell

Tax Implications of Selling K1 Partnership Shares (EPD) in an IRA Account

I've been holding Enterprise Products Partners (EPD) shares in my IRA for about 15 years now and never had issues with UBTI so I'm comfortable keeping it there. While I generally view this as a long-term hold, I was curious about the tax consequences if I ever decided to sell some shares. As an experiment, I sold 125 shares in 2023, and I just received the K1 form but I'm having trouble understanding how this sale impacts my taxes. I'm confused about where exactly on the K1 I should be looking to find information related to this transaction. Can anyone point me to the specific section of the K1 that would show the tax implications from selling these partnership units within an IRA?

Amara Nwosu

•

The good news is that since you sold those EPD shares inside your IRA, the K1 information doesn't directly impact your personal tax return. When you hold MLP units like EPD in an IRA, the account itself is considered the partner, not you personally. If you're looking at the K1 out of curiosity, check Box 20 code V which shows "Net section 751 gain (loss)." This relates to sales of partnership interests. You might also look at Box 8 which shows "Net short-term capital gain (loss)" and Box 9a for "Net long-term capital gain (loss)" which could reflect your sale. But again, these amounts don't flow to your personal return since the transaction occurred in a tax-deferred account.

0 coins

AstroExplorer

•

Wait I'm confused. I thought ANY income from K1s was taxable regardless of account type? I have some MPLX in my Roth and was told I'd still get hit with taxes if it generates certain kinds of income even inside the Roth. Is that not right? Also, does this apply to traditional IRAs differently than Roth IRAs?

0 coins

Amara Nwosu

•

You're thinking of Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI), which can indeed trigger taxes even inside an IRA. If an MLP generates more than $1,000 in UBTI, the IRA itself might owe taxes on that amount regardless of account type (traditional or Roth). This is separate from the capital gains question though. When you sell MLP units inside an IRA, the gains or losses from that sale are sheltered within the IRA's tax structure. The K1 might show various allocations from the sale, but since they're occurring inside the IRA, they don't flow to your personal tax return.

0 coins

After struggling with this exact scenario last year, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which completely solved this issue for me. I had sold some Magellan Midstream partnership units in my retirement account and was equally confused about how to interpret the K1 information. Their system analyzed my K1 and clearly explained which parts applied to my IRA sale and which didn't. Their tool specifically identified the recapture elements and UBTI components so I knew exactly what might trigger taxation even within my IRA. It was much clearer than the vague explanations I got from my accountant.

0 coins

Does it work for regular brokerage accounts too? I have several MLPs in my taxable account and the K1s are driving me crazy each year. Can it pull data directly from the partnership websites or do I need to upload the PDFs myself?

0 coins

Dylan Cooper

•

I'm skeptical this would help more than just calling the partnership directly. EPD investor relations will explain the specific tax treatment for free. Why pay for a service when the company will tell you directly? Also how accurate is this for complex situations?

0 coins

It definitely works for regular brokerage accounts too - actually that's where it really shines because it shows exactly how each line item flows to your tax forms. It has direct connections to most major partnerships so it can pull your K1s automatically once you set up your account with your tax ID. Regarding calling the partnership directly, I tried that route initially. While they can provide general guidance, they typically won't give individualized tax advice. The service analyzes your specific situation including your basis adjustments over time, which the partnership's investor relations department won't track for you. It's especially helpful for complex situations with multiple years of ownership and partial sales.

0 coins

Dylan Cooper

•

I was initially skeptical about taxr.ai but decided to try it after receiving 7 different K1s this year. Complete game-changer! It accurately identified that my MLP sale in my IRA did generate some UBTI that would be taxable, even within the retirement account. The amount was only $437 so it fell under the $1,000 threshold, meaning no actual tax was due. The system also explained which boxes on the K1 related to the sale versus ongoing operations. For anyone dealing with partnership K1s, especially with sales transactions, I highly recommend giving it a try. Saved me hours of research and potentially costly mistakes.

0 coins

Sofia Perez

•

After 20+ attempts to reach someone at the IRS about my K1 questions last tax season, I finally used Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and actually got through to a human at the IRS in about 15 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They connected me with an IRS agent who explained that sales of MLP units in IRAs are generally not reportable on personal returns, but that certain recapture elements can sometimes trigger UBTI which the IRA itself might need to report on Form 990-T if it exceeds $1,000. The agent walked me through exactly how to determine this from my K1.

0 coins

How does this service actually work? Does it just keep calling the IRS for you? Seems like something I could do myself for free if I just kept redialing...

0 coins

There's no way you got through to the IRS in 15 minutes even with some service. I've been trying for MONTHS. And even if you did get through, regular IRS phone reps aren't trained on complex K1 partnership issues. They'd just give generic advice at best.

0 coins

Sofia Perez

•

It uses a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. Then when an actual IRS agent picks up, it calls your phone and connects you directly to that agent. It's not just auto-redialing - it's actually sitting in the queue for you so you don't have to waste your time. Regarding the knowledge level of the IRS agents, I specifically requested to speak with someone in the business tax department once I was connected. The regular agents may offer more generic advice, but they can transfer you to specialists once you're in the system. I was pleasantly surprised by how knowledgeable the business tax specialist was about partnership tax issues.

0 coins

I hate to admit when I'm wrong, but I tried Claimyr last week out of desperation after my previous skeptical comment. Got through to the IRS in about 20 minutes after trying unsuccessfully for over two months on my own. The agent confirmed that for K1 sales in an IRA, I needed to look at Part III of the K1 (boxes 18-20) for any potential tax impacts. In my case, there was some Section 1250 unrecaptured gain in box 20 code N that would have triggered UBTI taxation if it had exceeded the $1,000 threshold. Turns out my MLP sale in my IRA actually did have tax consequences I wasn't aware of!

0 coins

Ava Johnson

•

Remember that even though MLP sales in IRAs aren't reported on your personal return, if your combined UBTI from all K1s exceeds $1,000 in a year, your IRA custodian is supposed to file Form 990-T and pay taxes from your IRA assets. Most people miss this! Check box 20 code V for "Net section 751 gain (loss)" which includes "hot assets" like inventory and unrealized receivables. Also look at code N for "Unrecaptured Section 1250 gain" - both can trigger UBTI even in IRAs.

0 coins

How would I know the total UBTI amount? Does it appear as a single number somewhere on the K1 or do I need to add up multiple boxes? And is my IRA custodian automatically notified about this or is it my responsibility to tell them?

0 coins

Ava Johnson

•

The UBTI amount is shown in Box 20 with code V. It's not a simple single number - you have to identify the specific codes that contribute to UBTI. Mainly look for codes V (Section 751 gain), N (Unrecaptured Section 1250 gain), and sometimes box 1 (Ordinary business income). Technically your IRA custodian is responsible for monitoring this and filing Form 990-T if needed, but in practice many custodians miss this unless you specifically notify them. Most major custodians like Fidelity, Vanguard or Schwab will send you a letter asking for K1 information if they know you hold MLPs, but smaller custodians often don't have systems to track this. It's definitely safer to proactively inform them if you identify UBTI over $1,000.

0 coins

Miguel Diaz

•

Has anyone used TurboTax to handle K1 sales in IRAs? I sold some ET units last year and I'm not sure if I should be entering anything from the K1 I received.

0 coins

Zainab Ahmed

•

TurboTax won't handle the 990-T filing for your IRA if UBTI exceeds $1000. That's a separate form your custodian files. But for your personal taxes, you don't enter K1 info from sales in IRAs. If it was in a regular brokerage account, TurboTax Premium can handle K1 entries.

0 coins

Axel Far

•

Just went through this exact situation with my EPD sale in my Traditional IRA last year. The key thing to understand is that while the sale itself doesn't appear on your personal tax return, you still need to monitor for UBTI implications. For your EPD K1, focus on Box 20 - specifically look for code V (Net section 751 gain) which captures the "hot assets" portion of your sale. This is the most likely source of UBTI from partnership unit sales. Also check if there's any code N (Unrecaptured Section 1250 gain) though EPD typically has minimal depreciation recapture. In my case, selling 200 units generated about $340 in UBTI (Box 20 code V), which was well under the $1,000 threshold so no additional taxes were owed. But it's important to track this annually since UBTI from all sources in your IRA gets aggregated. Pro tip: Keep records of your basis adjustments from previous years' K1s (Box 1 losses and Box 19 distributions) as these affect the gain calculation when you sell. The original poster mentioned holding for 15 years, so there's likely significant basis reduction to account for.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
43,512 users helped today