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What is Form 990-T and who needs to file it for MLPs in retirement accounts?

I just got this letter from Vanguard about providing information on allowable deductions for some MLP investments in my Roth IRA. They mentioned they'll determine if 990-T filings are needed if the Unrelated Business Income Tax (UBIT) from my MLP holdings exceeds $1000. Looking at my Roth portfolio, I purchased about 25 shares of MMP at around $82 back in 2020 and added more in early 2021. They're currently underwater, so I'm guessing I don't need to worry about any tax or excise fee according to their letter. I'm just confused about a few things: 1. What exactly is Form 990-T? Who's required to file it? 2. What is UBI and why is it specifically connected to MMP investments? And why do they call it an "excise fee" instead of a tax? 3. If I eventually make over $1000 profit by selling my MMP shares in the future, would I need to pay this excise fee and report the income on Form 990-T?

Form 990-T is essentially a tax return for tax-exempt organizations (including IRAs) that have unrelated business income. When you hold MLPs (Master Limited Partnerships) like MMP in a retirement account, it can trigger what's called Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI). The reason this happens is because MLPs pass through business income to their partners (you), and when that business income isn't related to the tax-exempt purpose of your retirement account, it becomes taxable. It's a bit strange since most people think retirement accounts are completely tax-sheltered. Your custodian (Vanguard) files the 990-T on behalf of your IRA if the UBTI exceeds $1,000. They're calling it an "excise fee" because this is a special tax situation specifically for tax-exempt entities that have business income. If your MMP investment generates more than $1,000 in UBTI in the future, yes, Vanguard would file the 990-T and pay the tax from your account. This is one reason many financial advisors recommend avoiding MLPs in retirement accounts.

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Thanks for the explanation! So if my MLP investments are currently at a loss, I don't need to worry about this right now, correct? Also, does this mean I should avoid putting MLPs in retirement accounts altogether?

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If your MLP investments are currently at a loss, you likely don't have any UBTI to worry about right now. The UBTI is generated from the operations of the business, not just from capital gains when you sell. As for whether to avoid MLPs in retirement accounts - it depends. Many financial planners do recommend keeping MLPs in taxable accounts where they have different tax advantages. In retirement accounts, the paperwork and potential tax liability can outweigh the benefits. If you're set on owning MLPs, consider MLP ETFs instead of direct ownership, as they typically structure things to avoid generating UBTI.

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Does this service actually help with the forms though? My brokerage sent me the most confusing paperwork ever about my MPLX holdings in my IRA. Like does taxr handle the actual calculations or just give you info?

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I'm a bit skeptical about these kinds of services. Can't you just call your brokerage and have them walk you through it? That's what I did when I got confused about K-1 forms from my pipeline MLP.

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Just wanted to add from my experience - be careful with MLPs like MMP in Roth accounts. Even if you don't have to pay taxes now since they're at a loss, when the K-1s come in, they can be a nightmare. Those K-1 forms will show all kinds of income allocations that might trigger UBTI even if the overall investment is down. I learned this the hard way with MPLX in my Roth. The shares were down like 15% but I still had to deal with the 990-T filing because the partnership had over $1000 in income allocated to me.

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So if I own MLP ETFs instead of direct MLP shares, do I avoid all this hassle? I heard funds like AMLP don't generate UBTI.

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Yes, MLP ETFs like AMLP or MLPA are structured specifically to avoid generating UBTI. They're actually corporations that own the MLPs, not pass-through entities, so they shield you from getting K-1s and dealing with 990-T filings. The tradeoff is that ETFs have their own fees and might not give you the exact same yield as owning MLPs directly. But for retirement accounts, the simplicity is totally worth it. I switched all my retirement account MLP holdings to ETFs after my UBTI headache.

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Has anyone noticed that even if the UBTI is under $1000, you still get a K-1 with all these weird boxes filled out? my brokerage never explained any of this when i bought EPD in my ira. now every year i get a massive k1 package and have no idea what to do with it.

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You should keep those K-1s even if they don't trigger a 990-T filing. If you ever get audited, the IRS might want to see them to verify the UBTI was indeed under the threshold. Also, if you have multiple MLPs, the UBTI from all of them is combined, so individually they might be under $1000 but together they could exceed it.

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This is exactly why I tell people to think twice before putting MLPs in retirement accounts! I made the same mistake years ago with Kinder Morgan Partners in my traditional IRA. The UBTI calculation can be tricky because it's not just about whether your investment is profitable overall - it's about the underlying business income the MLP generates. Even if your shares are down, the pipeline or energy infrastructure might still be generating taxable business income that gets passed through to you. One thing I learned: if you do decide to keep MLPs in retirement accounts, try to consolidate them with one custodian. Having multiple brokerages each handling different MLP positions makes tracking that $1000 UBTI threshold much more complicated since you have to aggregate everything yourself. Also, don't forget that UBTI isn't just from capital gains when you sell - it's ongoing income from the MLP's operations. So even holding underwater positions can still generate tax obligations if the partnership is profitable.

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