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Nadia Zaldivar

Investing in MLPs (EPD, HEP, TCP): What tax complications should I prepare for?

I've been looking at adding some Master Limited Partnerships like EPD, HEP, and TCP to my portfolio for the dividend income, but everything I've read online warns that MLPs are a nightmare during tax season. The weird thing is, when I try to research specifically what makes them so complicated, I can't find much beyond "they're different from regular stocks" (which doesn't scare me since I'm comfortable with taxes). From what I understand, the process seems pretty straightforward: 1. I'll get a Schedule K-1 (Form 1065) instead of a 1099-DIV, and I just enter this into my tax software following the prompts. This shows what portion of the cash distributions count as personal income. 2. I need to track my basis by taking my current basis and adjusting it (+/-) based on the current year's net income/loss. This becomes my new basis. 3. When selling, my broker will give me a 1099-B, but I need to manually adjust the cost basis to reflect all the yearly basis adjustments from step 2 during the holding period. Am I missing something major here? This process doesn't seem that difficult. Is there some complicated step that people aren't mentioning that makes MLP taxation such a headache?

You've got the basic process down, but there are a few things that make MLPs more complicated than they seem at first glance. The biggest headache isn't just following the steps - it's that K-1s often arrive very late (sometimes not until March or even April), forcing you to either file an extension or amend your return. Plus, each MLP issues their own K-1 with different formatting and supplemental information. Another complication is that MLPs generate Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI), which can create issues if held in retirement accounts. If UBTI exceeds $1,000, you'd need to file Form 990-T and potentially pay taxes within your tax-advantaged account. Also, when you sell, calculating your adjusted basis is more complex than it sounds. You've been reducing your basis with each distribution (most distributions are return of capital), so you'll likely have significant deferred tax liability. Many investors don't track this properly and get surprised. Finally, if you own MLPs in multiple states, you might need to file state tax returns in each state where the MLP operates - this can be a huge hassle.

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Ev Luca

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Wait, are you saying I might have to file tax returns in multiple states just from owning some MLP shares in my brokerage account? That sounds insane. How many states are we typically talking about?

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Yes, that's exactly what can happen. MLPs operate in various states and pass through income from those operations to partners (including you as a shareholder). Most larger MLPs like EPD operate in numerous states - sometimes 10+ states. The good news is there are typically minimum income thresholds before you're required to file in each state. Many retail investors don't reach these thresholds unless they have substantial MLP holdings. Some states also have provisions that exempt small partners. Tax software can help determine if you need to file in multiple states, and many investors use professional help when dealing with multiple MLPs.

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Avery Davis

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After years of dealing with K-1 nightmares from MLPs, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which has been an absolute lifesaver for handling complicated partnership forms. My first year owning EPD, I was completely overwhelmed by the K-1 and all the different boxes and schedules. The taxr.ai system lets you upload your K-1 documents and it extracts all the data automatically, then explains exactly how to handle basis adjustments and what each line means. Even better, it keeps track of your basis adjustments year-over-year so when you eventually sell, you have an accurate basis calculation. I used to spend hours trying to figure out which boxes affected my basis and how to report everything correctly, but now it takes me minutes.

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Collins Angel

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Does it work with multiple MLPs? I've got positions in both EPD and TCP and each one seems to format their K-1s differently which drives me crazy.

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Marcelle Drum

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I'm skeptical about tax document readers. How accurate is it really? I've had TurboTax mess up my import before and it was a headache to fix. Does it handle the state tax issues too?

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Avery Davis

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Yes, it works with all the major MLPs including EPD, TCP, HEP, and many others. The system is designed to handle the different formats that each partnership uses for their K-1s, which is a huge time-saver compared to manually figuring out where each partnership puts their information. As for accuracy, I was skeptical too at first, but it's been much more reliable than the generic imports from tax software. It's specifically built for partnership K-1s rather than trying to be a one-size-fits-all solution. And yes, it does track state-level information and can help identify which states you might need to file in based on your ownership percentage and the MLP's operations.

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Marcelle Drum

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I wanted to follow up about taxr.ai since I was skeptical in my earlier comment. I decided to try it for my 2024 taxes since I own shares in four different MLPs and dreaded the paperwork. The platform actually exceeded my expectations - it correctly identified all the different income types from my K-1s and showed exactly how they affected my basis calculations. The state tax analysis was particularly helpful since it showed that while my MLPs operated in 14 different states, I only had filing requirements in 2 of them based on my ownership percentages. Saved me from unnecessarily filing in states where I was below the threshold. Definitely made MLP tax reporting much less intimidating than it was in previous years!

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Tate Jensen

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If you're having issues getting in touch with the MLP's investor relations department for tax questions (which happens A LOT), I highly recommend Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They helped me get through to Enterprise Products Partners' tax department during peak season last year when I was completely stuck on a basis calculation issue. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I spent days trying to get through on my own - constant busy signals or being on hold for hours only to get disconnected. Claimyr got me connected within 30 minutes, and I got my specific questions answered about some unusual items on my K-1 that weren't explained in their investor materials.

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Adaline Wong

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How exactly does this work? Do they just call and wait on hold for you? Seems like something I could do myself.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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This sounds like BS. No way they can get through faster than anyone else can. The IRS and these companies have a single phone queue. Nobody can "skip the line" unless they're paying off the companies.

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Tate Jensen

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They don't just call and wait - they use a system that continuously redials until it gets through, then holds your place in line with an automated system. When a representative finally answers, you get a call back to connect with them immediately. It's actually a clever solution that saved me from having to sit by my phone for hours. No, they're not skipping any lines or doing anything shady. They're just using technology to handle the most frustrating part of the process. Think of it like having a persistent assistant who's solely focused on getting through phone systems. These MLP investor relations departments are notoriously understaffed during tax season, and trying to get through on your own can be nearly impossible.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment, my K-1 for TCP arrived with what looked like an error in box 13W that was going to cost me thousands in extra taxes. I tried calling for three days straight with no luck getting through to their tax department. Gave Claimyr a shot as a last resort, and they got me connected within an hour. Turns out there was indeed a reporting error affecting several investors that they were correcting. Without getting that confirmation, I would have either overpaid my taxes significantly or filed with information I suspected was wrong. I'm still annoyed at how inaccessible these MLP tax departments are during filing season, but at least there's a way to break through when you really need answers.

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Don't forget about Form 8938 (Foreign Financial Assets) requirements if your MLP has operations outside the US! I got hit with a penalty because EPD had some Canadian operations that triggered FATCA reporting requirements, and I had no idea I needed to include this on my return. Also, be aware that if the MLP gets acquired or merges (which happens regularly in this space), you'll likely have a taxable event even if you don't sell your shares. This happened to me with Kinder Morgan's reorganization and created a tax nightmare because all my basis calculations changed.

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Oh wow, I hadn't considered the international aspects at all. For the foreign operations reporting, is there a minimum threshold before this becomes an issue? And do most tax software programs flag this automatically or is it something you need to know to look for?

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There are thresholds - for Form 8938, it's generally $50,000 of foreign assets for single filers ($100,000 for joint filers) on the last day of the tax year, or $75,000 at any point during the year ($150,000 for joint filers). But this is for total foreign assets, so if you have other international investments, your MLP exposure could push you over the edge. Most consumer tax software won't automatically flag this unless you specifically answer questions about foreign assets correctly. The issue is that many investors don't realize their domestic MLP investments might include foreign operations. This information is usually buried in the K-1's supplemental information. The best approach is to carefully review the entire K-1 package, including all supplemental statements, or have a tax professional familiar with MLPs review your documents.

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Peyton Clarke

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Something nobody's mentioned yet is that MLP investments can absolutely wreck your tax filing timeline. I've had K-1s arrive literally the last week of tax season (early April) which means either: 1. File an extension and delay your refund 2. File on time then do an amended return later 3. Rush everything last minute and risk errors Plus the first year is the "easy" one. The real headache compounds each year as you track basis adjustments, especially if you're doing dividend reinvestment. I ended up setting up a separate spreadsheet to track everything because TurboTax kept losing my basis info between years.

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Vince Eh

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I'll second this. I've owned EPD for 6 years and every single year their K-1 arrives after March 15th. My accountant charges me extra now because he knows my return will get separated from the batch he processes in February due to waiting on MLP forms.

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Zoe Stavros

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Thanks for this detailed breakdown everyone! As someone who's been considering MLPs for the income, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. I had no idea about the multi-state filing requirements or the FATCA reporting issues. One question I haven't seen addressed - for someone just starting out with maybe $10K-15K in MLP investments, are these complications worth worrying about? It sounds like some of the worst issues (multi-state filings, foreign reporting) might not apply at smaller investment levels due to thresholds. Also, has anyone tried holding MLPs in a taxable account versus tax-advantaged accounts? I know @Lukas mentioned the UBTI issue with retirement accounts, but I'm curious if there are any other considerations for account placement strategy. The late K-1 timing issue alone might be a dealbreaker for me since I usually file early to get my refund quickly. Appreciate everyone sharing their real-world experiences!

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Paolo Rizzo

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Great question about investment size! At $10K-15K, you're probably below most of the scary thresholds people mentioned. The multi-state filing requirements typically have minimum income thresholds (often $500-1000 per state), so smaller positions usually don't trigger filing obligations. Same with the foreign reporting - you'd need substantial holdings to hit those thresholds. However, the late K-1 timing issue affects everyone regardless of investment size. Even a $1000 MLP position means waiting until March/April for your tax forms. If you're someone who files early for quick refunds, this could be really frustrating. For account placement, definitely keep MLPs in taxable accounts. The UBTI issue in retirement accounts is real - I learned this the hard way when I had to file Form 990-T for my IRA. Plus, you lose the tax benefits of the basis adjustments when held in tax-advantaged accounts. One middle-ground approach: consider MLP ETFs instead of direct MLP ownership. You'll get similar exposure but receive regular 1099s instead of K-1s, though you'll give up some of the tax advantages.

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Aidan Percy

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As someone who's been dealing with MLPs for about 8 years now, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help newcomers avoid some common pitfalls: **Timing Strategy**: I've learned to file extensions every year now. Rather than stress about late K-1s, I just plan for it. This gives me time to properly review everything instead of rushing, and honestly, the peace of mind is worth delaying my refund by a few months. **Record Keeping**: Create a dedicated folder (physical or digital) for each MLP from day one. Store your purchase confirmations, all K-1s, and keep a running basis calculation spreadsheet. I can't stress this enough - trying to reconstruct this information years later when you sell is a nightmare. **Software Considerations**: While TurboTax and similar programs can handle basic MLP reporting, they often struggle with complex situations like amendments or multiple MLPs. If you're planning to hold several MLPs long-term, budget for professional tax prep or invest in more robust software. **Exit Strategy**: Before you buy, have a plan for selling. The basis calculations get more complex each year, and if you're not tracking properly, you might end up paying more in taxes than necessary when you eventually sell. The income from MLPs can be attractive, but make sure you're factoring in the additional complexity and potential professional tax prep costs when calculating your real returns.

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Michael Green

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This is incredibly helpful advice! The timing strategy of just planning for extensions makes so much sense - I was getting stressed just reading about people waiting until April for K-1s. Your point about record keeping really hits home. I'm generally pretty organized with my investments, but it sounds like MLPs require a whole different level of documentation. Do you have any recommendations for specific spreadsheet templates or software that works well for tracking the basis adjustments over multiple years? Also, when you mention "complex situations like amendments" - what typically triggers the need to amend MLP returns? Is this something that happens frequently, or more of an edge case to be aware of? The exit strategy point is something I hadn't fully considered. It sounds like the tax complexity actually increases the longer you hold these investments, which is counterintuitive compared to most other investments where long-term holding simplifies things.

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