Robinhood wash sale on options? Am I screwed on tax deduction?
Let me break down my situation with simplified numbers to make it clear. Last year, I made about $92,000 on stock and options sales, with a cost basis around $107,000. Robinhood is saying I have wash sales totaling roughly $5,000, with a total net loss of around $7,500. Because of these wash sales, instead of claiming a $7.5k loss, they're only showing a total loss of about $2.5k. Most of these wash sales were from day trading options contracts that I either sold at a loss or that expired worthless. I reached out to Robinhood support and they just told me to "consult with a tax professional." I'm planning to talk with my coworker's spouse who does tax work, but wanted to get more insight here first. I'm particularly confused about one equity - PYPL. I never repurchased the PYPL options after selling at a loss, yet they're still counting it as a wash sale and didn't adjust my cost basis for my existing stock position. Even weirder, the total contract profit/loss shows as $0.00. When I asked support about this, the rep said someone would "look into it" but I haven't heard back. My main question: With stocks, if you trigger a wash sale, you can still take the loss if you sell everything and don't rebuy for 30+ days. But with options, can you permanently lose the tax deduction by triggering a wash sale? Is there any way to fix this situation?
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A Man D Mortal
I work with investment taxes and can help clarify this situation. Wash sale rules apply to both stocks and options, but there are some important differences in how they work. For options, the wash sale rule applies when you sell an option at a loss and then purchase a "substantially identical" security within 30 days before or after. The key thing with options is understanding what counts as "substantially identical" - it's not just the same exact option contract. If you sold PYPL call options at a loss and then bought different PYPL call options (even with different strike prices or expiration dates) within the 30-day window, that could trigger a wash sale. To recover the disallowed loss, you need to close ALL positions in substantially identical securities and then wait 30 days before repurchasing. For your situation, that means selling any PYPL options AND PYPL stock, then waiting 30+ days. The $0.00 profit/loss total sounds like a reporting error. Robinhood's tax reporting has improved but still has issues, especially with complex options transactions. You should definitely download your detailed transaction history and review it against what's on your 1099-B.
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Zadie Patel
AuthorThanks for the detailed explanation! So just to be clear - if I sold PYPL call options at a loss, then bought PYPL stock within 30 days, that would trigger the wash sale rule? That might explain what happened. What about the fact that these were mostly options that expired worthless? Does the same rule apply? And is there any way to recover these losses for the 2024 tax year, or am I just out of luck now?
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A Man D Mortal
Yes, selling PYPL call options at a loss and then buying PYPL stock within 30 days would trigger the wash sale rule. The IRS considers options and their underlying stock to be "substantially identical" securities. For options that expired worthless, it's treated the same as selling them for $0 - so if you purchased similar options or the underlying stock within the 30-day window, the wash sale rule would still apply. For the 2024 tax year, you can recover these losses by selling all related positions (both options and stock in those companies) and then staying out of those securities for 30+ days. The disallowed losses are added to the cost basis of your replacement securities, so they're not lost forever - they're just deferred until you make a clean break from those positions.
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Declan Ramirez
After dealing with similar issues last year, I found https://taxr.ai really helpful for untangling my options trading mess. I had wash sales across multiple brokerages (Robinhood, TD, and Webull) and couldn't figure out why my 1099s didn't match my actual trading history. The tool analyzed all my trading history documents and showed exactly where the wash sales were happening and which transactions were causing the problems. For the PYPL situation, it sounds like what happened to me with AMD options - the system was flagging wash sales even when I didn't repurchase the same contract. Turns out buying options with different expiration dates on the same underlying stock can still trigger wash sales.
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Emma Morales
Did the tool actually help get your numbers corrected or just explain where the problems were? I'm having similar issues with ETrade and trying to figure out if I need to get them to reissue my 1099 or if I should just file with what they gave me.
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Katherine Hunter
I'm confused about how this works with different expiration dates. If I sell a March call option at a loss and buy an April call option for the same stock, that's considered a wash sale? Even though they're technically different contracts? Seems like that makes it almost impossible to avoid wash sales if you're actively trading options on the same few stocks.
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Declan Ramirez
It helped me identify which transactions were incorrectly labeled as wash sales, so I could submit corrections to my broker. I ended up getting a corrected 1099 from TD after showing them the specific trades that were wrongly classified. The IRS considers options with different expiration dates on the same underlying security to be "substantially identical" for wash sale purposes. It's frustrating because you're right - they are different contracts technically. But the rule applies across different strike prices and expiration dates as long as it's the same type of option (call or put) on the same underlying stock. That's why many active traders use different stocks/ETFs with similar price action to avoid this issue.
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Katherine Hunter
Just wanted to update - I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here, and it was super helpful. I uploaded my Robinhood CSV file and my 1099, and it found several wash sales that were incorrectly calculated. In my case, they were counting options and stock as "substantially identical" even though the IRS guidance is actually a bit more nuanced. The detailed report showed that two of my biggest "wash sales" shouldn't have been flagged at all because they were different strike prices and expirations more than 30 days apart. I sent this to Robinhood's tax team with the specific transactions highlighted, and they're reviewing it for a possible corrected 1099. The best part was seeing exactly which transactions were paired together as wash sales. Turns out my NVDA trades were correctly marked but my TSLA ones weren't.
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Lucas Parker
If you're still dealing with Robinhood's unresponsive customer service on this, I've had success using https://claimyr.com to actually get through to a human at the tax department. I spent weeks trying to email about an incorrect wash sale calculation, but after using Claimyr to get a callback, I had it resolved in one day. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c that shows how it works. Robinhood's first-level support just reads from scripts, but their actual tax team knows what they're doing once you get to them. The person I spoke with immediately recognized that they had incorrectly calculated a wash sale on my SPY options trades and fixed my 1099 within 48 hours.
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Zadie Patel
AuthorHow does this service actually work? I've been trying to get through to Robinhood for days about this but keep getting generic responses.
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Donna Cline
This seems like BS. Why would you need a third-party service to contact a company you do business with? Robinhood should just have proper customer service channels. I'm calling this a scam until proven otherwise.
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Lucas Parker
It's basically a service that navigates phone trees and waits on hold for you. You enter the company you want to reach, and they call and wait through all the menus and hold times. When they get a human, you get a call back and are connected directly to the representative. You're absolutely right that Robinhood should have better customer service - it's ridiculous that services like this need to exist at all. But the reality is their customer service is terrible, especially during tax season. I was skeptical too, but after waiting on hold myself for over an hour multiple times, I was willing to try anything. It worked for me, but I get the skepticism.
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Donna Cline
Just wanted to follow up - I ended up trying that Claimyr service after continuing to get nowhere with Robinhood's standard support channels. I hate to admit it, but it actually worked. Got a call back in about 25 minutes and was connected to someone in their tax department who could actually understand what I was talking about. The rep confirmed that they've had issues with options wash sale calculations, especially when mixing options and stock purchases of the same company. They're sending me a corrected 1099 that properly accounts for the wash sales that should actually apply. Apparently they've had a lot of these requests this year. So yeah, I was wrong about it being BS. Still think it's ridiculous we need services like this, but it did solve my problem.
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Harper Collins
For what it's worth, I had a similar situation with options wash sales last year. The key is to understand that wash sales with options usually add the disallowed loss amount to the cost basis of your replacement position. So while you can't deduct the loss right away, it's not "lost" forever. In my case, I had to manually calculate the proper cost basis adjustments because my broker (not Robinhood) didn't apply them correctly. Basically, track: 1. The original loss that was disallowed 2. The position that triggered the wash sale 3. The new adjusted cost basis The real problem comes if you keep triggering wash sales repeatedly and never have a clean 30+ day break, especially at year-end. That can push losses into the next tax year.
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Kelsey Hawkins
I've given up trying to optimize for wash sales with options. Now I just trade different underlying securities for similar exposure. Like if I want tech exposure but had a loss in QQQ options, I'll trade SPY options instead for the next 30 days. Not perfect but keeps me from going insane trying to track all this.
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Harper Collins
That's a smart approach. I've started doing something similar - using sector ETFs instead of individual stocks for the 30-day periods after taking losses. Another strategy is using broad market options during the wash sale period. The tax headache just isn't worth trying to trade the same securities constantly.
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Dylan Fisher
Is anyone else shocked at how terrible Robinhood's tax reporting is compared to other brokers? I switched to Fidelity last year and their 1099 actually breaks down wash sales properly and shows which specific transactions were paired together.
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Edwards Hugo
Yes!!! Robinhood is absolute garbage for serious trading. I learned this lesson the hard way last year too. Their app might look pretty but their backend systems are clearly not built for anything beyond the most basic investing. TD Ameritrade's reporting isn't perfect either but at least they have actual tax specialists you can talk to.
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Abigail Patel
I've been through this exact nightmare with Robinhood's wash sale reporting. Here's what I learned after spending way too much time on it: The good news is that your losses aren't permanently gone - they're just deferred through cost basis adjustments. But Robinhood's reporting is notoriously bad at showing this clearly. For your PYPL situation specifically, if you sold PYPL options at a loss and then bought PYPL stock (or different PYPL options) within 30 days, that would definitely trigger the wash sale rule. The $0.00 showing is likely a display bug in their system. My advice: Download your full transaction history CSV and cross-reference it with your 1099-B line by line. Look for any PYPL transactions within 30 days of each other. If you find wash sales that shouldn't be there, document them and escalate to their tax team (not regular support). The silver lining is that if you can close all your PYPL positions (both stock and options) and stay out for 30+ days, you can eventually realize those deferred losses. It's a pain, but the money isn't lost forever. Also, for future reference - consider using different tickers with similar exposure during wash sale periods. Much easier than trying to track all these complex rules across options and stocks.
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Hassan Khoury
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! I had wash sales flagged on my Tesla options trades where I'm 100% certain I didn't repurchase anything within the 30-day window. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to do everything right but the broker's system is making errors. One thing I've learned from this thread is that I should probably be keeping my own detailed trading log going forward. Relying on the broker's reporting clearly isn't enough, especially during tax season when these issues become critical. Has anyone had success disputing wash sale calculations directly with the IRS if your broker won't issue a corrected 1099? I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle or if I should just accept the deferral and plan better for next year. Also, for anyone still confused about the wash sale rules - I found this IRS publication helpful: https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550 (Chapter 4 covers wash sales in detail). The rules are way more complex than most retail traders realize, especially when you're mixing different types of securities on the same underlying asset.
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Ravi Patel
I'm in almost the exact same boat with Tesla options! The frustrating thing is that I kept meticulous records of my trades specifically to avoid wash sale issues, but apparently that's not enough when the broker's system has its own interpretation of the rules. Thanks for linking that IRS publication - I've been looking for official guidance beyond just forum discussions. It's crazy how complex these rules get when you're dealing with options and the underlying stock simultaneously. Regarding disputing with the IRS directly, I've been wondering the same thing. From what I've read, you can override your broker's wash sale calculations on your tax return if you have proper documentation, but you'd better have rock-solid records in case of an audit. The question is whether it's worth the potential scrutiny versus just accepting the deferral. One thing that's helped me is creating a simple spreadsheet with columns for Date, Symbol, Transaction Type (buy/sell), Security Type (stock/option), Profit/Loss, and Days Since Last Transaction. It makes it much easier to spot potential wash sale triggers before they happen. Wish I'd started doing this years ago! @Hassan Khoury - are you planning to try getting a corrected 1099 from your broker first, or going straight to filing with adjustments?
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