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Honorah King

Do Robinhood wash sale rules apply differently to options trading?

Hi everyone, wanted to get some insight on a frustrating tax situation with my options trades. I'll simplify the numbers to make this easier to understand. Last year I made around $110,000 trading stock options on Robinhood, with a cost basis of approximately $125,000. My total wash sales according to Robinhood are about $5,000, giving me a net loss of around $8,000. But because of these wash sales, instead of reporting the full $8k loss, they're only showing a $3k loss on my 1099. Most of these wash sales were from day trading options contracts that I either sold at a loss or that expired worthless. I've already contacted Robinhood support and they just told me to "talk to a tax professional" (super helpful, right?). I'm planning to speak with my buddy's wife who does tax work, but thought I'd check here first. I'm particularly confused about one stock - PYPL. I never repurchased the PYPL options that triggered the wash sale, yet Robinhood didn't adjust my cost basis for my existing stock position. Even weirder, the total contract profit/loss for PYPL shows $0.00, which makes no sense. When I asked about this, the customer service rep just said "someone would look into it"... My main question: With stocks, I know you can trigger a wash sale but still claim the loss if you sell the position and don't rebuy within 30 days. But with options, can you permanently lose the tax deduction by triggering a wash sale? Does Robinhood handle this correctly?

Oliver Brown

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The wash sale rules do apply to options, but there are some important nuances that many brokers (including Robinhood) don't always handle correctly. Here's what you need to know: For options, a wash sale occurs when you sell an options contract at a loss and then purchase a "substantially identical" security within 30 days before or after the sale. The tricky part is determining what counts as "substantially identical" with options. The IRS considers options to be "substantially identical" if they're for the same underlying stock, have the same strike price, and have the same expiration date. So if you sold PYPL call options with a $150 strike expiring in June at a loss, and then bought PYPL call options with the same strike and expiration within 30 days, that's a wash sale. However, if you sold PYPL call options and then bought PYPL stock, or PYPL options with different strike prices or expiration dates, the IRS guidance is less clear. Some tax professionals argue these aren't substantially identical, while others take a more conservative approach. To answer your specific question: No, you don't permanently lose the deduction with options wash sales. The disallowed loss gets added to the cost basis of the replacement position. If you close all positions before year-end and don't repurchase within 30 days, you should be able to claim the loss.

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Honorah King

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! So if I understand correctly, since I never repurchased those specific PYPL options after selling them at a loss, Robinhood probably shouldn't be treating them as wash sales? Do you think it's worth pushing them to correct my 1099, or should I just claim the proper loss on my tax return and be prepared to explain if audited? Also, any idea why the total profit/loss would show as $0.00 for these contracts? That seems like a clear error to me.

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Oliver Brown

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You're right that if you never repurchased substantially identical PYPL options, they shouldn't be treated as wash sales. Robinhood's automated systems sometimes incorrectly flag transactions. It's definitely worth contacting them again with the specific details and requesting a corrected 1099. The $0.00 profit/loss display is almost certainly a reporting error. This happens when their system fails to properly calculate the net result of multiple transactions. I've seen this issue before with complex options trading patterns. When you contact them, specifically ask them to review the calculation methodology for that particular position.

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Mary Bates

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I was in a similar situation last year with Robinhood and options wash sales. I spent WEEKS going back and forth with their support trying to get things fixed with no luck. Then I found this service called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that helped me straighten everything out. What they do is analyze your trading history and tax documents to identify reporting errors. You upload your Robinhood statements and 1099, and they generate a detailed report showing exactly where the mistakes are. In my case, they found about $12,000 in incorrectly reported wash sales that I was able to reclaim as legitimate losses. The best part was they gave me a document explaining exactly how to report it correctly on my taxes, which my accountant used to file properly. Saved me thousands in taxes I would've overpaid.

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Does taxr.ai work with other brokers too? I've got accounts with both Robinhood and TD Ameritrade, and I swear they calculate wash sales differently. It's driving me crazy trying to figure out what's accurate.

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Ayla Kumar

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I'm a bit skeptical about these tax services. How do you know they're interpreting the rules correctly? The IRS guidance on options wash sales is notoriously vague. Did your accountant confirm their analysis was correct? Did you end up getting audited?

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Mary Bates

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Yes, they work with all the major brokers including TD Ameritrade. They actually specialize in reconciling differences when you have multiple brokers because that's when things get really messy with wash sales being calculated differently. The service was recommended by my accountant actually. He said their analysis was spot-on and backed by tax code citations. He was impressed with the detail in their report. I did have to pay him less since I came with the analysis already done - he just had to verify and file. And no, I didn't get audited! The documentation they provide is specifically designed to withstand scrutiny if questioned.

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Ayla Kumar

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Just wanted to follow up on my skeptical comment about taxr.ai. I decided to try them out since I was in a similar situation with about $6,500 in questionable wash sales on options trades. I have to admit I was impressed. They found that my broker had incorrectly applied wash sale rules to options with different strike prices and expirations that shouldn't have been considered "substantially identical." Their report broke down exactly which transactions were improperly flagged, with references to the specific IRS guidelines that supported their position. My tax bill ended up $2,200 lower after correctly reporting these trades. The documentation they provided gave me confidence that I could defend the positions if questioned. For anyone dealing with complex options trading and wash sales, it's definitely worth checking out.

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How does this Claimyr thing actually work? I've been trying to get through to a human at Robinhood for ages about a similar issue. Their chat support is useless for complicated tax questions.

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Ayla Kumar

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Sounds too good to be true honestly. Robinhood is notorious for having terrible customer service. You're telling me this service somehow magically gets you to the front of their queue? I've been waiting weeks for a response about my incorrect 1099.

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It's pretty straightforward - they use a combination of technology and dedicated representatives who know exactly how to navigate phone systems. They basically sit on hold for you and when they get through to a human, they call you and connect you directly to that person. No more getting stuck in phone trees or waiting for hours. They don't get you to the "front of the queue" - they just handle the waiting part for you. With Robinhood specifically, they know which options to select and when to call to minimize wait times. Once you're connected with someone, you explain your situation directly. In my case, the first-level support person actually transferred me to their tax specialist team once I explained the options wash sale issue.

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Ayla Kumar

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Kai Santiago

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One thing to watch out for with options wash sales that nobody's mentioned yet - the "substantially identical" rule gets SUPER complicated with spreads and other multi-leg strategies. For example, if you close a vertical spread at a loss, then open a similar spread with slightly different strikes within 30 days, are those substantially identical? Most brokers will automatically flag them as wash sales, but tax professionals are divided on whether that's correct. The IRS hasn't provided clear guidance specifically for complex options strategies, which leaves a lot of room for interpretation. This is why you get different answers from different tax pros.

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Lim Wong

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What about rolling options? Like if I have a covered call that's going against me, and I roll it out to a later expiration date at the same strike price? I do this all the time and have no idea how it's being reported for wash sale purposes.

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Kai Santiago

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Rolling options is another gray area. Technically, when you roll an option, you're closing one position and opening another with a different expiration date. Since the expiration is different, many tax professionals argue this shouldn't trigger wash sale rules. However, many brokers (especially Robinhood) automatically flag these as wash sales anyway because their systems are programmed conservatively. If you're regularly rolling options, you should review your 1099 carefully. The disallowed loss from the closed position should be added to the cost basis of your new position. If you ultimately close all positions and stay out for 30+ days before year-end, you should be able to claim the full economic loss.

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Dananyl Lear

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Has anyone successfully gotten Robinhood to correct a 1099 for options wash sales without using one of those services mentioned? I'm in a similar situation but would prefer to handle it myself if possible.

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I managed to get them to fix mine last year, but it took persistence. The key was submitting very specific examples with transaction IDs showing exactly where their reporting was wrong. Generic complaints got me nowhere. I compiled a spreadsheet of all my trades, highlighted the ones incorrectly marked as wash sales, and explained why each one didn't meet the "substantially identical" criteria. I submitted this through their support portal and followed up every 48 hours until they escalated it to their tax team. Took about 3 weeks total, but they did eventually issue a corrected 1099. Be prepared to cite specific IRS regulations though - that seemed to be what finally got their attention.

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Finnegan Gunn

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I've been dealing with similar issues with Robinhood's options wash sale reporting. One thing that helped me understand the problem better was pulling my own trade history and manually calculating what should and shouldn't be wash sales based on the IRS criteria. For options, the key factors are: same underlying stock, same strike price, AND same expiration date. If any of these differ, there's a strong argument that they're not "substantially identical." However, Robinhood's system seems to flag anything with the same underlying as a potential wash sale, which is overly broad. In your PYPL case, if you never repurchased options with identical terms within the 30-day window, those definitely shouldn't be wash sales. The $0.00 profit/loss display is almost certainly a system glitch - I've seen this happen when their automated calculations get confused by expired contracts. My advice: Document everything with specific transaction dates and contract details. When you contact support, reference the specific IRS Publication 550 language about "substantially identical securities" and ask them to review each flagged transaction individually rather than relying on their automated system. It's frustrating, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease with Robinhood. Keep escalating until you reach someone who actually understands options taxation rather than just reading from a script.

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Amara Adebayo

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to options trading and had no idea about the specific criteria for "substantially identical" securities. I've been getting wash sale flags on what seem like completely different contracts just because they're for the same underlying stock. Quick question - when you say "same expiration date," does that mean the exact same expiration, or would weekly options vs monthly options for the same week potentially be considered different? I've been trading both SPY weeklies and monthlies and I'm wondering if that affects the wash sale treatment. Also, has anyone had success citing IRS Publication 550 specifically when dealing with Robinhood support? I'm wondering if mentioning specific tax code sections actually helps or if their first-level support just ignores it.

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Great question about the expiration dates! Yes, it needs to be the exact same expiration date for the IRS to consider options "substantially identical." So SPY weeklies expiring on Friday and SPY monthlies expiring that same Friday would be considered the same, but weeklies vs monthlies with different expiration dates would not trigger wash sales. Regarding citing IRS Publication 550 - it definitely helps, but you need to get past the first-level support. The initial chat representatives usually don't understand tax regulations and will just give you generic responses. However, once you get escalated to their tax specialist team (which you can request specifically), mentioning Publication 550 Section 4 about wash sales and providing the specific language about "substantially identical securities" carries a lot more weight. I'd recommend having the exact quote ready: "Substantially identical securities include the same stock in the same corporation." For options, this has been interpreted to require same underlying, strike, AND expiration. The more specific you can be with regulatory citations, the more likely they are to take your case seriously and actually review the transactions rather than just defending their automated system. One tip: when you escalate, specifically ask to speak with someone who handles "complex options taxation issues" rather than general customer service. That usually gets you routed to someone with actual knowledge of these rules.

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I've been following this thread closely as I'm dealing with a similar situation. Just wanted to add another perspective on the "substantially identical" issue that might help others. I had a case last year where I was trading AAPL options - sold some $150 calls expiring in March at a loss, then bought $155 calls expiring in April within the wash sale period. Robinhood flagged this as a wash sale, but when I challenged it, they eventually agreed it shouldn't have been flagged since both the strike price AND expiration date were different. The key insight I learned from my tax attorney is that the IRS applies the "substantially identical" test very strictly for options. Even a $5 difference in strike price or one day difference in expiration is enough to make them NOT substantially identical. This is different from stocks where small differences might still be considered substantially identical. What really helped me was creating a simple table showing: - Original contract: Underlying, Strike, Expiration, Sale Date - Replacement contract: Underlying, Strike, Expiration, Purchase Date - Days between transactions - Why they're NOT substantially identical This visual format made it much easier for Robinhood's tax team to understand why their automated system was wrong. I'd recommend anyone dealing with this issue to document it the same way - it really cuts through the confusion and gives them something concrete to work with. For what it's worth, after getting my corrected 1099, my additional deductible losses were about $8,400. Definitely worth the effort to fight these incorrect wash sale designations.

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Derek Olson

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This is exactly the kind of systematic approach I needed to see! Thank you for sharing that table format - it makes so much sense to document it visually rather than trying to explain it in paragraphs. I'm dealing with a similar situation where Robinhood flagged SPY options as wash sales even though they had different strikes and expirations. Your example with AAPL gives me confidence that these should definitely be challengeable. Quick follow-up question: when you submitted this to Robinhood, did you go through regular support channels or did you have to escalate to get someone who understood the nuance? And roughly how long did the whole process take from initial challenge to receiving the corrected 1099? Also, did your tax attorney charge a lot for helping with this? I'm trying to weigh whether it's worth getting professional help or if the documentation approach you described is enough to handle it myself.

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