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Understanding Wash Sale Loss Disallowed on Brokerage 1099 - Can I Still Claim These Losses?

I'm really confused about my tax situation with some disallowed wash sales. My brokerage sent me a 1099 showing about $40k in disallowed wash sales from last year. I've been doing a ton of research and watching YouTube videos about this, and everything I read suggested that as long as I closed all my positions before the end of the 2024 tax year, those losses should still be deductible against my gains. When I talked to my tax preparer about this, he's insisting that these wash sale losses aren't tax deductible at all. I tried explaining my understanding with an example: "If I bought Stock XYZ for $12,000, sold at $19,000, then bought back at $19,000, and finally sold at $6,000 before year-end - shouldn't I only be taxed on the net result? I made $7,000 on the first trade but lost $13,000 on the second trade, for a net loss of $6,000. It feels like my preparer wants to tax me on the $7,000 gain while ignoring my $13,000 loss, which doesn't seem right." His response was: "Your example doesn't apply to your situation. You sold positions at a loss and then rebought the same stocks/options within 30 days or less. This creates wash sale losses which aren't tax deductible. Your brokerage account likely uses first-in-first-out accounting. If you had waited more than 30 days before repurchasing the same investments, your losses would be tax deductible." Can someone please help me understand if I'm completely misinterpreting how wash sales work? Did I reach the wrong conclusion in my research, or am I misunderstanding what my tax preparer is telling me? I thought wash sale losses were just delayed until you completely exit the position, not permanently disallowed.

Andre Dupont

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Your understanding is correct and your tax preparer's explanation is incomplete. Wash sale rules don't permanently disallow losses - they defer them. Here's what's happening: When you sell a security at a loss and buy the same or substantially identical security within 30 days before or after the sale, that's a wash sale. The loss isn't permanently lost - it's added to the cost basis of the replacement shares. When you eventually sell those replacement shares, you'll recognize the previously disallowed loss. The key point is that if you sold ALL positions in that security before year-end and didn't repurchase within the 30-day window crossing into the new year, those losses should be recognized in the current tax year. The $40k in disallowed wash sales should already be factored into your final numbers on the 1099-B. Look at the summary section of your 1099-B. The "Proceeds" and "Cost Basis" columns should already include adjustments for wash sales. The final "Gain/Loss" column reflects your actual taxable gain or loss after all wash sale adjustments. Your broker has already done these calculations for you.

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QuantumQuasar

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But what if you sell at a loss and buy a different but similar stock/ETF? Like selling SPY at a loss and buying VOO right after? Does the wash sale rule still apply since they're not technically the same security but track basically the same thing?

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Andre Dupont

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Great question. The wash sale rule applies to "substantially identical" securities, which is a somewhat gray area. The IRS considers securities to be substantially identical if they're close enough that selling one and buying the other wouldn't significantly change your economic position. For your SPY/VOO example, while they both track the S&P 500, they are issued by different companies and have different expense ratios and possibly different tracking methodologies. Many tax professionals would consider this a legitimate way to avoid a wash sale, but there's no definitive ruling from the IRS on this specific situation. Some conservative tax advisors might still consider it a wash sale since they track the same index.

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Jamal Wilson

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Does it actually look at your specific trading history or just give generic advice? I've got like 500+ trades this year and I'm drowning in wash sale adjustments. My broker's tax documents are practically unreadable.

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Mei Lin

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Has anyone used this for options trading specifically? Options wash sales seem even more complicated since there are different strike prices and expiration dates to consider.

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Mei Lin

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NebulaNinja

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The simple explanation that helped me understand wash sales: 1. When you trigger a wash sale, the loss isn't gone forever 2. The loss gets added to the cost basis of your replacement shares 3. When you eventually sell those replacement shares, you'll recognize the loss 4. If you close all positions before year-end (and don't repurchase within 30 days after), all those deferred losses should be recognized in the current tax year The only time wash sale losses become a bigger problem is when they straddle tax years. If you sell at a loss in December and rebuy in January, that loss gets deferred into the next tax year.

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How does this work with multiple purchases throughout the year? I'm constantly buying and selling the same stocks, sometimes multiple times a week. It's impossible to track which loss belongs to which purchase.

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NebulaNinja

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That's exactly why brokers handle the calculations for you! With frequent trading, the wash sale adjustments become incredibly complex to track manually. Your broker applies the appropriate accounting method (usually FIFO - first in, first out) to match purchases and sales. The good news is that the final numbers on your 1099-B already incorporate all these adjustments. Look at the totals section of your form - the final gain/loss figure already accounts for all wash sale deferrals and adjustments. As long as you closed all positions in that security by year-end (and didn't repurchase within 30 days after December 31), your 1099-B should correctly show your recognizable gains and losses.

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Can I just say how frustrating it is that most tax preparers don't understand trading scenarios? I had a similar situation with wash sales and my CPA kept giving me wrong information. Had to educate myself and basically explain it to him. The IRS rules aren't even that complicated once you understand the principle - wash sale losses aren't disallowed forever, they're just deferred by adjusting the basis of replacement shares.

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Sofia Morales

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The real problem is that there are many CPAs who don't specialize in investment taxation but still take on clients with complex trading situations. I specifically sought out a CPA who works with active traders, and the difference in knowledge was night and day.

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Sarah Jones

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This is exactly why I switched from my general CPA to someone who specializes in trader taxation. The difference in understanding was incredible - my new preparer immediately knew that wash sales defer losses rather than eliminate them permanently. One thing that helped me verify my understanding was looking at my 1099-B more carefully. In Box 1d, if there's a "W" code, that indicates wash sale adjustments were made. But the key is looking at the summary totals - your broker has already calculated your net gains/losses after all wash sale adjustments. Your tax preparer should be using those final adjusted numbers, not trying to manually disallow wash sale losses again. If he's doing that, he's essentially double-counting the wash sale penalty, which would be incorrect. I'd recommend getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in securities transactions. The rules really aren't that complex once someone explains them properly, but unfortunately many general tax preparers just don't encounter these situations often enough to understand the nuances.

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Luca Greco

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This is really helpful advice about finding a CPA who specializes in trader taxation. As someone new to more complex trading scenarios, I'm realizing how important it is to work with someone who actually understands these situations rather than trying to figure it out with a general practitioner. The point about the 1099-B Box 1d "W" code is something I hadn't heard before - that's a great tip for identifying when wash sale adjustments have been made. It sounds like the key takeaway is that if you closed all your positions before year-end, the wash sale losses should already be properly reflected in your broker's calculations, and your tax preparer shouldn't be trying to disallow them again. I'm definitely going to look for a specialist for next year's taxes. Do you have any recommendations for how to find CPAs who specifically work with active traders? Are there particular credentials or certifications I should look for?

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