How to claim investment loss on First Republic Bank stocks that I never sold?
I'm in a bit of a pickle with my First Republic Bank stocks. I invested around $5.5k and now the bank's been acquired, but I never actually sold my shares. I've been trying to figure out how to claim this loss on my taxes since technically I still "own" the worthless shares. When I tried to fill out Schedule D, it seems like I need to list every transaction, but since I never sold, I'm not sure what to put. Someone suggested I should just use December 31st of last year as a sell date (even though that's not true). That seems sketchy though. I did try to sell them recently but the trading platform won't let me use market price - it's forcing me to enter a limit price which I don't really understand. I have no clue what number to put in to sell all my shares. Does anyone know the right way to handle claiming a loss on stocks that basically went to zero but weren't technically sold? I'd really appreciate any guidance on this and the whole limit price thing too. Thanks!
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Ethan Davis
What you're dealing with is a special situation called a "worthless security" claim. Since First Republic Bank was acquired by JPMorgan Chase in May 2023, your shares weren't technically worthless - they were converted to JPMorgan shares at a specific ratio. You have three options: 1. If you received JP Morgan shares in the acquisition, you haven't actually realized a loss yet. Your cost basis transfers to the new shares. 2. If your shares became completely worthless, you can claim them as a capital loss in the year they became worthless (2023). You would report this on Schedule D, using December 31, 2023 as the date of worthlessness and $0 as the sales price. 3. If you're trying to sell shares now through a limit order, you need to look up the current market price of the security and set your limit price at or slightly below that price if you want to sell quickly. Remember that capital losses can offset capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year, with remaining losses carried forward to future years.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thanks for the detailed explanation. So if I understand correctly, if I did receive JPMorgan shares in the conversion, my original cost basis would just transfer over? How would I know if that happened? I honestly haven't been paying much attention to my account since the whole thing went down. Also, if I did get JPMorgan shares but they're worth significantly less than my original investment, is there any way to claim that partial loss?
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Ethan Davis
•You should check your brokerage account statements or transaction history from around May 2023 - you would have received some notification about the acquisition and what happened to your shares. If you received JPMorgan shares, they would appear in your portfolio, replacing the First Republic shares. If you did receive JPMorgan shares in the conversion, your original cost basis would indeed transfer over to these new shares. You wouldn't be able to claim a loss until you actually sell the JPMorgan shares. The tax code doesn't allow you to claim a "partial loss" while still holding the replacement security - you need a realization event (like selling) to trigger the capital loss.
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Liam Fitzgerald
Saw a lot of comments here but wanted to add something important: You need to be careful about the date you claim the security became worthless. For First Republic, the FDIC took it over on May 1, 2023, so technically that would be the date of worthlessness, not December 31. Also, if you received any compensation as part of the JPMorgan acquisition, even pennies on the dollar, you'd need to report that as proceeds rather than $0. The IRS is pretty strict about documentation for worthless security claims because they get abused a lot. I'd recommend either getting documentation from your broker confirming the shares became worthless or have proof you received minimal/no compensation in the acquisition.
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Aisha Abdullah
•Thanks for pointing that out. So should I use May 1, 2023 as the date on Schedule D instead of December 31? And what if my broker doesn't provide any specific documentation about worthlessness? When I log into my account, I can see the shares but they just show a very minimal value (like $4 total now vs my $5.5k investment).
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Yes, using May 1, 2023 (or whatever date your specific shares were affected) would be more accurate than December 31st. The IRS prefers actual dates when possible. For documentation, print out or save PDF statements showing the value before and after. If your shares show a minimal value rather than zero, you technically haven't had a complete worthless security event - you would need to actually sell those nearly worthless shares to claim the loss. That's likely why your broker is asking for a limit price - they need you to execute an actual sale to dispose of those low-value shares. I'd recommend setting a limit price at or slightly below the current shown value (the $4 you mentioned) to ensure the order executes. Once sold, you'll have an actual realized loss you can claim on your taxes without any gray areas.
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PixelWarrior
Has anyone actually used TurboTax to handle this kind of situation? I'm trying to figure out where exactly to enter this in the software and it's not very clear.
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Amara Adebayo
•In TurboTax, you'd go to the investments section and select "Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other" and then choose "I'll enter my investment income." When you get to the capital gains section, you can enter it as a regular stock sale but with $0 (or whatever minimal amount you received) as the proceeds. In the description field, make sure to write "Worthless security - First Republic Bank" as others have suggested.
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Giovanni Moretti
I went through something very similar with my Credit Suisse shares when they collapsed. The key thing I learned is that you need to determine whether you actually received anything in the acquisition or if your shares truly became worthless. For First Republic specifically, most retail shareholders received minimal compensation (often just a few cents per share) when JPMorgan acquired the bank. If this happened to you, you'd report it as an actual sale transaction on Schedule D - use the actual acquisition date (May 1, 2023), your original cost basis as the purchase price, and whatever minimal amount you received as the sale proceeds. However, if your shares genuinely became completely worthless with zero compensation, then you can claim them as worthless securities. The IRS allows you to treat the worthless security as if you sold it on the last day of the tax year it became worthless. Check your brokerage statements from May 2023 carefully - there should be some record of what happened to your First Republic shares. Most brokers sent out detailed notices about the acquisition process. If you can't find this info, call your broker directly - they're required to have records of corporate actions like this. The limit order issue you're having suggests your shares still have some minimal trading value, which means you haven't had a true "worthless security" event yet. You'd need to actually execute that sale to realize the loss for tax purposes.
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Niko Ramsey
•This is really helpful context about Credit Suisse - I didn't realize the situation might be similar. You're right that I should dig deeper into what actually happened during the acquisition. I've been avoiding looking at my statements because the whole thing was so stressful, but it sounds like I need to bite the bullet and figure out the exact details. The fact that my shares still show some minimal value in my account probably means I did receive something in the acquisition process, even if it was just pennies. So I'm likely looking at an actual sale transaction rather than a worthless security claim. That actually makes more sense with what my broker is asking me to do with the limit order. Thanks for the practical advice about calling the broker directly - I hadn't thought of that but you're absolutely right that they should have all the corporate action records. Much better than trying to piece it together from confusing statements.
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GalacticGuardian
I went through a similar situation with Washington Mutual back in 2008, so I understand the confusion. The key thing to remember is that bank failures are treated differently than regular stock worthlessness for tax purposes. Since you mentioned your shares still show some value ($4 vs your $5.5k investment), this suggests you likely received some minimal compensation in the JPMorgan acquisition rather than having truly worthless securities. This is actually the most common scenario for retail shareholders in bank failures. Here's what I'd recommend: First, contact your broker and ask for the "corporate action statement" for First Republic Bank from May 2023. This will show exactly what happened to your shares - whether they were converted to JPMorgan stock, cash, or some combination. Most retail shareholders received a small cash payment (often around $0.10-0.50 per share) as part of the acquisition. If you did receive compensation, you'll report this as a regular stock sale on Schedule D using May 1, 2023 as the sale date, your original purchase price as the cost basis, and whatever amount you received as the proceeds. The loss will be the difference. For the limit order issue - if your account shows $4 total value, try setting your limit price at $0.01 per share or whatever the current bid price shows. This should execute immediately and give you the realized loss you need for your tax return. Don't use the "worthless security" provision unless your shares truly received zero compensation, as the IRS scrutinizes these claims heavily.
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LordCommander
•This is exactly the kind of detailed, practical advice I was hoping to find! Your Washington Mutual experience really helps put this in perspective. I had no idea that bank failures were treated differently from regular stock worthlessness - that explains why I was getting confused trying to apply general "worthless security" rules. The corporate action statement approach makes perfect sense. I've been trying to piece together what happened from my regular monthly statements, but asking specifically for the corporate action documentation should give me the clear picture I need. And you're absolutely right about not using the worthless security provision unless I truly received zero compensation - I definitely don't want to invite IRS scrutiny by claiming something incorrectly. Your suggestion about setting the limit price at $0.01 per share is really helpful too. I was overthinking the limit order because I didn't understand that I just needed to set it low enough to execute immediately. If my total position is only worth $4 now, that should definitely work to close out the position and give me the realized loss for my tax return. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it's given me a much clearer roadmap for handling this situation properly.
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Freya Christensen
I've been dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my CPA. The most important thing is to distinguish between a true "worthless security" and a security that was acquired at a minimal value. Based on your description, it sounds like your First Republic shares likely went through the JPMorgan acquisition process rather than becoming truly worthless. Here's what you should do: 1. **Get the facts first**: Call your broker and request the "Corporate Action Notice" for First Republic Bank from May 2023. This will tell you exactly what happened - whether you received cash, JPMorgan shares, or nothing at all. 2. **If you received ANY compensation** (even pennies): This is a regular sale transaction. Use the actual acquisition date, your original cost basis, and whatever you received as proceeds on Schedule D. 3. **For the limit order problem**: Since your shares show $4 value, set your limit price at or below the current bid price (maybe $0.01 per share). This will execute immediately and create the taxable event you need. 4. **Avoid the worthless security claim** unless you truly received zero compensation. The IRS audits these heavily, and if you received even minimal payment, it doesn't qualify. The good news is that either way, you'll be able to claim most of your $5.5k as a capital loss. The documentation from your broker will make everything clear and defensible if questioned.
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Lucas Bey
•This is incredibly helpful guidance! I've been putting off dealing with this situation for months because I was so overwhelmed by the complexity, but your step-by-step approach makes it feel much more manageable. The distinction between a worthless security vs. an acquired security is something I completely missed when I was initially researching this. I was getting caught up in all the IRS publications about worthless securities when what I really needed to understand was the corporate action process. Your point about calling the broker for the Corporate Action Notice is spot on - I should have done that from the beginning instead of trying to decipher my regular account statements. And I really appreciate the specific guidance on setting the limit price. I was paralyzed by not knowing what number to enter, but setting it at $0.01 per share makes perfect sense if I just want to execute the sale quickly. One quick question - when you say "current bid price," where would I typically find that information? Is it shown in my brokerage account somewhere, or do I need to look it up elsewhere? I want to make sure I'm setting the limit order correctly so it actually executes. Thanks again for sharing your CPA's advice - this has given me the confidence to finally tackle this properly!
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Carmen Vega
•To find the current bid price, log into your brokerage account and look up your First Republic Bank holdings. Most platforms will show you a quote screen with "Bid" and "Ask" prices when you click on the stock symbol. The bid price is what buyers are willing to pay, so setting your limit order at or slightly below that number should execute quickly. If your broker's platform doesn't clearly show bid/ask prices (some simplified interfaces hide this), you can also just set your limit price really low - like $0.001 per share - which will essentially become a market order and execute at whatever the best available price is. Given that your total position is only worth $4, we're talking about fractions of pennies per share anyway. Another option is to call your broker directly and ask them to execute a "market order" to sell all your First Republic shares. They can do this over the phone and it will close out your position immediately at the current market price, whatever that may be. Sometimes the phone approach is simpler than trying to navigate the online limit order system, especially for these odd situations with nearly worthless securities.
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Talia Klein
I went through this exact same situation with my First Republic shares last year, and after working with my tax preparer, here's what we discovered: The key is determining what actually happened during the JPMorgan acquisition. Most retail shareholders of First Republic did receive some minimal compensation - often around $0.00-$0.50 per share - rather than having truly "worthless" securities. Since your shares still show $4 value in your account, this strongly suggests you received something in the acquisition process. Here's my recommendation: 1. **Contact your broker immediately** and ask for the "Corporate Action Statement" or "Reorganization Details" for First Republic Bank from May 1, 2023. This document will show exactly what you received. 2. **For your limit order issue**: Set your limit price at $0.01 per share (or whatever minimal amount ensures execution). Since your total position is only worth $4, this will execute immediately and give you the realized loss you need. 3. **Report it as a regular sale on Schedule D**: Use May 1, 2023 as the sale date, your original $5.5k as the cost basis, and whatever minimal amount you received as proceeds. 4. **Avoid claiming "worthless securities"** unless you truly received $0. The IRS heavily audits these claims, and if you received any compensation (even pennies), it doesn't qualify. The bottom line: You'll still be able to claim nearly your entire $5.5k loss as a capital loss, but make sure you have proper documentation from your broker first. Don't let the complexity paralyze you - this is actually a fairly straightforward transaction once you get the right paperwork.
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Lincoln Ramiro
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been procrastinating on this for way too long because it seemed so complicated, but you've laid out a clear path forward. The fact that you went through the same situation with First Republic makes your advice especially valuable. I'm going to call my broker first thing tomorrow to get that Corporate Action Statement. It sounds like once I have that documentation, everything else should fall into place pretty easily. And I really appreciate the specific guidance on the limit order - setting it at $0.01 per share makes perfect sense given how little my position is worth now. One thing that's been bothering me is whether I missed some deadline for claiming this loss. Since the acquisition happened in May 2023, am I still able to report this on my 2024 taxes if I sell the shares now? Or should this have been reported on my 2023 return? I'm worried I might have messed something up by waiting so long to deal with this. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's given me the confidence to finally get this sorted out properly!
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