Stock Tax Harvesting: How to write off worthless tickers like IRNTQ and HMNY when they can't be sold anymore?
So I'm stuck with this annoying tax situation. I've got some absolutely worthless stocks in my portfolio (including IRNTQ and HMNY among others) that I can't even sell anymore because they're not even trading on the OTC markets now. I'm trying to figure out how to actually harvest these losses for tax purposes since I obviously lost real money on these investments. The stocks basically went to zero and now I can't find them anywhere to sell - they've been delisted or something. My big question is: How do I claim these losses on my taxes? Do I need to get some special documentation from my broker to show the IRS these are worthless? Is this considered a capital loss or some kind of gambling loss? I've already tried looking through my brokerage account but there's no obvious "claim this worthless stock" button, and I'm not sure if I need a specific form from them before filing. Any advice on the proper way to report these completely worthless investments would be really appreciated!
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Paolo Romano
Those abandoned securities can definitely be claimed as a capital loss - you don't need to actually sell them to realize the loss if they're genuinely worthless. This falls under the "worthless securities" provision in tax code. Your broker should be able to provide you with a worthless security form or written confirmation that can be attached to your tax return. Call their customer service line and specifically ask for documentation for "worthless securities" - they deal with this fairly regularly. When filing, you'll report these on Schedule D and Form 8949 with code "W" for worthless. The date of the "sale" would be the last day of the tax year in which they became completely worthless (December 31), and the sale price would be $0. You'll use your original cost basis as the loss amount.
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Amina Diop
•Thanks for the info! What happens if my broker won't provide that form? The smaller trading app I use has terrible customer service and hasn't responded to my emails about this.
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Paolo Romano
•If your broker won't provide documentation, you can still claim the loss but should gather alternative evidence. Document your attempts to contact them (save emails), take screenshots of your account showing the securities, and look for public information showing when the stocks were delisted or became worthless - SEC filings, news articles, etc. For smaller trading apps, try escalating to a supervisor or using their social media support channels instead of email. Sometimes they respond faster when it's public. If all else fails, you can still file with your own documentation, but be prepared to substantiate your claim if questioned by the IRS.
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Oliver Schmidt
After dealing with a similar situation last year with some defunct biotech stocks, I found this tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was super helpful for documenting worthless securities. It helped me pull together all the evidence I needed to claim my losses properly. I scanned my old trade confirmations and it extracted all the relevant purchase info, then it found documentation of when the stocks were delisted. Made it way easier to file everything correctly on my Schedule D without wondering if I was doing it right.
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Natasha Volkov
•How exactly does the tool work with these delisted stocks? Does it connect directly to your brokerage account or do you have to manually upload statements?
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Javier Torres
•Sounds interesting but I'm a bit skeptical. Does it help with determining the exact date when securities became worthless? That's the tricky part I'm trying to figure out with some of my holdings.
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Oliver Schmidt
•The tool doesn't connect to your brokerage directly - you upload your statements or trade confirmations and it extracts the data. It has a document scanner that pulls all the relevant info like purchase dates, prices, and quantities. For determining worthless dates, it actually has a database of corporate actions including bankruptcies, delistings, and company dissolutions. It found the exact dates my stocks were delisted and provided SEC filing references that established when they officially became worthless. That was the most helpful part since I was struggling to document that precisely.
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Javier Torres
Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was actually really helpful. I was skeptical at first but it found the exact SEC filings showing when HMNY (MoviePass parent company) was officially declared worthless. The tool generated a complete report with all my transaction details and the relevant SEC documentation showing the worthless date. My tax preparer said it was exactly what she needed to properly code everything on my Schedule D with the "W" code. Saved me hours of hunting down documentation!
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Emma Wilson
If you're still having trouble getting your broker to help with documentation, try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I used it to finally get through to my broker's tax department after weeks of being stuck in their automated phone system. They have this demo video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was trying to get a worthless security letter for some penny stocks that disappeared from my account and kept hitting dead ends with customer service. Claimyr got me connected to an actual human at my brokerage within 15 minutes, and I had the documentation I needed the next day.
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QuantumLeap
•Wait, how does this actually work? You pay someone to wait on hold for you? I'm confused about how they get you through faster than you could yourself.
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Malik Johnson
•This sounds like snake oil. How could a third party possibly get you through a phone queue faster? The broker's phone system doesn't know who's calling, it just puts everyone in the same queue.
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Emma Wilson
•It's not that they get you through faster - they wait on hold so you don't have to. Their system keeps you in the queue and calls you back when a real person finally answers. For my broker, that was a 2+ hour wait that I didn't have to sit through. The real benefit is they navigate the phone trees correctly - I was apparently selecting the wrong options before which is why I kept getting disconnected. They know which exact options to select to reach tax departments at most major brokers, which saved me from the frustration of getting transferred around.
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Malik Johnson
I take back what I said about Claimyr. Decided to try it yesterday after spending 3 hours on hold with my broker and getting disconnected twice. They got me connected to the tax department in about 45 minutes, and I didn't have to sit there listening to the hold music the whole time. Got my worthless securities letter for some biotech penny stocks that tanked last year. The rep even told me they have a specific internal form for this that I never would have known to ask for if I hadn't finally reached the right department. Already submitted everything with my tax return.
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Isabella Santos
Hey, I actually went through this exact situation with HMNY (MoviePass) back in 2019! The key is that you need to identify the exact date the securities became worthless, not just when they were delisted. For HMNY specifically, they filed for bankruptcy in January 2020, and the courts determined the shares were officially worthless at that point. I was able to claim my full loss ($4,600 down the drain, ugh) on my 2020 taxes. Your broker should provide a "worthless securities" confirmation, but if they don't, you can use public bankruptcy filings or SEC documents as proof.
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Ravi Sharma
•Did you have to attach those bankruptcy documents to your tax return or just keep them for your records in case of an audit?
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Isabella Santos
•I didn't attach the documents directly to my e-filed return, but I kept everything in my tax records. My accountant recommended keeping the bankruptcy filing documentation, my original purchase confirmations, and the attempts to sell the securities (showing they couldn't be sold) for at least 7 years. If you're filing yourself, you might want to include a brief statement with your return explaining the worthless security claim, especially if the amounts are significant. Better to be proactive than have to explain it during an audit.
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Freya Larsen
Don't forget that worthless securities are still subject to the capital loss limitations. You can only offset up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year after you've used the losses to offset any capital gains. Had to learn this the hard way when I tried to claim $12,000 in losses from some penny stocks that went to zero in 2022. I offset about $2,500 in gains from other stocks, then could only use $3,000 against my regular income. The remaining $6,500 had to be carried forward to future tax years.
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Omar Hassan
•Is there any way around this limit? I have about $8k in worthless stocks and barely any gains to offset this year.
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Paolo Rizzo
•Unfortunately, there's no way around the $3,000 annual limit for offsetting ordinary income with capital losses. It's built into the tax code. However, you can carry forward the unused losses indefinitely until they're all used up. In your case with $8k in losses, you'd use $3k this year and carry forward $5k to next year. If you have capital gains in future years, you can offset those first (no limit), then use up to $3k against ordinary income each year until the carryforward is exhausted. The bright side is that worthless securities losses don't expire - they'll keep reducing your tax burden year after year until you've claimed the full amount.
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Harold Oh
I went through this exact situation last year with some defunct crypto mining stocks that got delisted. Here's what worked for me: First, contact your broker's tax department (not regular customer service) and specifically request a "worthless securities letter" or "abandonment letter." Most major brokers have a standard process for this. If your broker won't cooperate, you can still claim the loss but need to document everything yourself. Save screenshots of your account showing the securities, any emails with your broker, and find public records of when the companies went bankrupt or were delisted. For the tax filing, you'll use Form 8949 and Schedule D. Mark the transaction with code "W" for worthless, use December 31st of the tax year as the "sale" date, $0 as the sale price, and your original cost basis as the loss amount. One important thing - make sure you're claiming these in the correct tax year. Securities become "worthless" when there's no reasonable hope of recovery, which is usually when the company files bankruptcy or is officially dissolved, not necessarily when they stop trading. Keep all your documentation for at least 7 years in case the IRS has questions. The key is being able to prove you actually owned the securities and that they truly became worthless during the tax year you're claiming.
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Jake Sinclair
•This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation with some biotech stocks that went under. Quick question - when you say "no reasonable hope of recovery," how do you determine that exactly? My stocks stopped trading months ago but the companies haven't officially filed bankruptcy yet. Should I wait for an official bankruptcy filing before claiming them as worthless, or is being delisted and untradeable enough?
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