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Yuki Ito

How do I claim a tax loss from my inherited bank stock that crashed? Proper way to sell worthless shares?

I inherited a substantial amount of First Republic Bank stock about 4 years ago when a family member passed away. At the time, it was worth around $420,000. I'm not really an investor and don't know much about stocks, so I just left it alone in the investment account thinking the person who left it to me knew what they were doing. Well, suddenly last year the bank completely collapsed without warning and now the shares are basically worthless - like maybe $300 total. I still technically own all these shares sitting in my investment account doing nothing. I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle this for tax purposes. How do I properly sell these essentially worthless shares so I can claim the loss on my taxes? Is there a limit to how much loss I can claim each year against my regular income? And practically speaking, who would even buy these worthless shares from a failed bank? Any advice would be really appreciated since I'm completely lost on how to handle this disaster.

Carmen Lopez

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This is a tough situation but you can definitely claim this as a capital loss. First, you need to establish your "basis" in the stock, which is generally the fair market value of the shares when you inherited them ($420,000). When you sell the shares (even for pennies), you'll have a capital loss equal to your basis minus whatever small amount you receive. For capital losses, you can offset any capital gains you have first. Then, you can deduct up to $3,000 of net capital losses against your ordinary income each year. Any remaining losses can be carried forward to future tax years. As for who would buy them - your brokerage can likely execute the sale even for nearly worthless securities. There are sometimes specialized buyers for defunct company shares. If the brokerage says they can't sell them, ask about a "worthless securities" form - the IRS allows you to claim a loss on completely worthless securities without technically selling them.

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Yuki Ito

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Thanks for the clear explanation. So if I understand right, I can only deduct $3,000 per year against my regular income? That means it would take me like 140 years to claim the full loss? Is there any way to claim more of it faster or am I just out of luck on most of this money?

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Carmen Lopez

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You can deduct $3,000 per year against your ordinary income, but if you have any capital gains (from selling other investments, property, etc.), you can offset those completely. For example, if you have $50,000 in capital gains next year, you could use $50,000 of this loss to completely offset those gains, plus take an additional $3,000 against your ordinary income. You can carry forward unused losses indefinitely until they're used up. Many people with large losses will strategically realize capital gains in future years to utilize these carryforward losses. You might consider talking to a tax professional about tax planning strategies that could help you use the loss more efficiently over the next several years.

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Andre Dupont

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QuantumQuasar

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Andre Dupont

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Amara Nnamani

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One important thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you check if your stock is ACTUALLY worthless before claiming it as such. I had Washington Mutual stock years ago that I thought was completely worthless after their collapse, but there was actually a small liquidation trust that was paying out pennies on the dollar to shareholders. If there's ANY value whatsoever or possibility of future recovery through bankruptcy proceedings, the IRS might challenge a complete worthless security deduction. You might need to actually sell the shares for whatever minimal value they have rather than claiming them as completely worthless. Your broker should be able to tell you if there's any residual value or ongoing bankruptcy proceedings related to your bank's stock.

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This is excellent advice. I worked in banking for years, and many people don't realize that even after a bank fails, there are often residual assets that get distributed over time. How would someone check if there are any bankruptcy distributions still happening for a failed bank from a few years ago?

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Amara Nnamani

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You can check a few different ways. First, contact your broker and ask if there are any bankruptcy proceedings or liquidation trusts associated with the stock. They usually have this information. Second, you can look up the bank's name plus "bankruptcy claims" or "shareholder recovery" online. Most failed banks will have information about any ongoing asset distribution processes. For larger bank failures, there are often dedicated websites set up by the administrators handling the liquidation. If the failure was FDIC-managed, you can also check the FDIC website as they typically publish information about the resolution status of banks they've taken over. Sometimes there are multiple phases of distribution that happen over several years.

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NebulaNinja

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Has anyone used TurboTax to claim a large worthless stock loss like this? I'm wondering if the regular version handles this or if I need to upgrade to their premium version. Last time I tried to enter something complicated like this, it kept giving me errors.

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I tried using TurboTax for a similar situation and it was a nightmare. The program kept asking me for information I didn't have and wouldn't let me proceed. I ended up having to use the desktop version of H&R Block software which handled it much better. It had specific fields for worthless securities and inheritance basis.

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I'm sorry to hear about your situation with the First Republic Bank stock. This is unfortunately becoming more common with recent bank failures. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - make sure you have proper documentation of the inheritance date and fair market value at that time. Since you inherited this 4 years ago, you'll need records showing the stock's value on the date of your family member's death (or the alternate valuation date if the estate elected that). This becomes your "stepped-up basis" for tax purposes. Also, don't rush to sell immediately. First Republic Bank went through a specific FDIC resolution process when it failed in May 2023, and shareholders typically received nothing. However, you should verify with your broker that there truly are no residual distributions expected before claiming it as completely worthless. If you do need to execute a sale, most brokers can handle transactions in defunct securities - they'll often sell for $0.01 per share or similar. The key is having the transaction recorded properly so you have documentation of the sale for your tax return. Given the size of this loss, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with worthless securities and inheritance situations. The $417,000+ loss could provide significant tax benefits over many years if handled correctly.

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Zoe Papadakis

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This is really helpful, especially the point about documentation. I'm realizing I might not have all the paperwork I need from when my family member passed away 4 years ago. How exactly do I find out what the stock was worth on the specific date they died? The estate paperwork I have doesn't seem to have that level of detail about individual stock holdings. Also, you mentioned May 2023 for the First Republic failure - that timing matches what I remember. Is there a specific way I should phrase this on my tax forms to make it clear this was an FDIC bank failure rather than just a regular stock that went down in value? I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly since it's such a large amount.

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