How to claim a tax loss on worthless private equity after paying AMT?
I exercised a bunch of ISOs at my startup in 2021, which triggered a substantial AMT bill that year. Then in 2022, disaster struck - the company was acquired at a terrible valuation. Preferred shareholders only got a portion of their investment back, while common shareholders like me received absolutely nothing. Our shares essentially became worthless - no payout, no conversion to stock in the acquiring company, nothing. So I'm in this awful situation where I paid a huge tax bill in 2021 for the "value" I supposedly gained from exercising my options, but then in 2022 that private stock became completely worthless. Between the exercise cost and the AMT, I've lost well over $45,000 with nothing to show for it. I'm desperate to recover some of this money through tax benefits. I noticed on the IRS website that Form 8949 is used to report certain transactions, but I'm not sure if that's the right approach in my situation with worthless private equity after already paying AMT. Does anyone have experience with claiming losses in this kind of scenario?
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Brianna Muhammad
You're dealing with a classic but unfortunate tax situation with ISOs and AMT. Form 8949 is indeed the right starting point for your worthless stock loss, but your situation has some complexity because of the AMT you previously paid. When private stock becomes completely worthless, you can claim it as a capital loss in the year it became worthless (2022 in your case). You'd report this on Form 8949 with a sale price of $0 and your original basis (what you paid for the shares plus any amount included in AMT income). Code "W" is used to indicate worthless securities. The good news is that you may be eligible for an AMT credit for the taxes you paid in 2021. When you exercise ISOs and pay AMT, you generate something called an "AMT credit carryforward" that you can use in future years when your regular tax exceeds your AMT. The worthless stock situation actually helps your regular tax position relative to AMT, potentially allowing you to claim more of this credit.
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Camila Castillo
•Thanks for the detailed explanation! I have two questions: 1) Do I need any documentation to prove the shares became worthless? The company basically just disappeared after the acquisition. 2) Is there a limit to how much of this loss I can claim in a single year?
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Brianna Muhammad
•For documentation, you should collect anything showing the acquisition terms that left common shares worthless - emails from company management, legal documents related to the acquisition, or statements from the company about the value of common shares. If you have nothing, a written timeline of events with any supporting evidence will help. The IRS may request proof during an audit. Capital losses are limited to offsetting capital gains plus $3,000 of ordinary income per year. Any unused losses carry forward to future years. So if your loss is $45,000 and you have no capital gains, you can deduct $3,000 per year against ordinary income for 15 years (or until the losses are used up).
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JaylinCharles
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Eloise Kendrick
•Did they actually help with the documentation aspect? My situation is similar but I have almost zero documentation from my former employer who went under. The whole experience has been a nightmare.
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Lucas Schmidt
•I'm wondering about timing. How long did this process take with them? I'm trying to figure out if I can still claim this for my 2022 taxes or if I need to file an amendment at this point.
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JaylinCharles
•They absolutely helped with the documentation aspect. They provided templates for creating a "statement of worthlessness" that detailed the events leading to the shares becoming worthless, which satisfied IRS requirements even with minimal company documentation. They also showed me how to use circumstantial evidence (emails, news articles, etc.) to build a sufficient case. The process was surprisingly quick - took about 3 days from uploading my documents to receiving a complete action plan. If you're dealing with 2022 taxes, you definitely still have time before the April deadline. If you've already filed, they can help with the amendment process too, and they'll evaluate whether the potential recovery justifies amending your return.
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Eloise Kendrick
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Freya Collins
If you're still struggling to get resolution on your ISO/AMT situation, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in the same boat - private equity became worthless after paying huge AMT, and I couldn't get clear guidance from regular tax preparers who rarely deal with this scenario. After weeks of getting nowhere with the IRS general line, Claimyr got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes who specialized in AMT issues. They have this system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you, then calls when an agent is ready. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent walked me through exactly how to document my worthless securities claim and recover my AMT credits. Having that direct conversation with someone who knew the rules made all the difference, especially for clarifying the documentation requirements for private company stock.
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LongPeri
•How does this actually work? I've been on hold with the IRS for literally 3+ hours multiple times and always get disconnected. Seems too good to be true that they could somehow get through when nobody else can.
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Oscar O'Neil
•I'm skeptical. The IRS doesn't have specialists just waiting to give detailed tax advice. Most agents just tell you to consult a tax professional. What specific guidance did you supposedly get that was so helpful?
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Freya Collins
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Oscar O'Neil
Well, I need to eat crow on this one. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr anyway because I was desperate for answers about my ISO/AMT situation that was very similar to the original poster's. Got connected to an IRS representative in about 35 minutes (they texted updates throughout). The agent confirmed exactly how to handle my worthless private equity on Form 8949, including what documentation would satisfy their requirements given my limited paperwork. They also directed me to specific sections of Publication 525 that address AMT credits from prior ISO exercises. The representative even entered notes in my account about our conversation regarding the worthless securities claim, which apparently can help prevent certain audit flags. This was way more helpful than the generic "ask your tax professional" response I expected. Definitely worth it when dealing with this specialized tax situation.
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Sara Hellquiem
Has anyone here successfully claimed worthless securities when there wasn't a formal bankruptcy? My former startup just kind of "dissolved" after being acquired - they never formally declared the common shares worthless but we all got $0. I filed using Form 8949 with a $0 sale price and code W, but my accountant is worried this could trigger an audit since there's no clear "identifiable event" showing the exact moment the shares became worthless.
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Charlee Coleman
•I was in the same boat last year. The key is documentation of an "identifiable event" - I used the final email from the CEO explaining the acquisition terms that left common shareholders with nothing. I also included a signed statement outlining the timeline of events and why the shares had no potential future value. IRS accepted it without questions. You technically don't need bankruptcy - complete worthlessness is enough. Just make sure you can point to a specific event and date when it became clear the shares had no value and no reasonable chance of having future value.
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Sara Hellquiem
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring. I do have an email from the CFO explaining that "common shareholders will not receive any consideration in this transaction" which I guess could count as my identifiable event. My accountant was just worried because some articles online mention you need a formal bankruptcy or liquidation, but sounds like that's not always the case.
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Liv Park
Slightly different approach - have you considered filing Form 1040X to amend your 2021 return? In some cases with ISOs and AMT, you can treat the options as never having been exercised if they became worthless within the same year or shortly after. Might be worth exploring as an alternative to the capital loss approach.
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Brianna Muhammad
•This advice is potentially misleading. You generally can't retroactively undo an ISO exercise through an amendment. The capital loss and AMT credit recovery approach is the standard IRS-approved method. The "treat as never exercised" approach typically only applies in very specific circumstances involving statutory stock options that weren't properly issued or were canceled within the same tax year as exercise.
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Brooklyn Foley
I went through almost the exact same situation in 2020-2022. Exercised ISOs, paid massive AMT, then the company got acquired for pennies and common shareholders got zero. It's absolutely brutal financially and emotionally. A few things that helped me navigate this: 1. **Timing matters for worthless securities** - You claim the loss in the year the stock actually became worthless, not when you found out about it. For me, this was the date the acquisition closed and it was clear common shares had no value. 2. **Documentation is key** - I created a comprehensive file including: the original ISO agreement, exercise confirmations, any company communications about the acquisition, the final acquisition term sheet showing $0 for common shares, and a written timeline of events. The IRS wants to see that you can prove an "identifiable event" made the shares worthless. 3. **Don't forget about AMT credits** - This is where many people leave money on the table. The AMT you paid in 2021 generates credits that can offset regular tax in future years. Form 8801 is your friend here. The worthless stock loss actually helps trigger these credits since it reduces your AMT relative to regular tax. 4. **Consider professional help** - This situation is complex enough that a tax professional experienced with ISOs and AMT is worth the cost. The potential recovery often justifies the expense. The silver lining is that you can recover a significant portion of what you lost through proper tax planning. It takes time (capital losses are limited to $3K/year against ordinary income), but you will get relief.
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Philip Cowan
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! I'm particularly interested in your point about timing. My company was acquired in October 2022, but I didn't receive the final documentation showing common shares got $0 until January 2023. Should I claim the loss for 2022 (when the acquisition closed) or 2023 (when I had definitive proof)? Also, do you have any tips for calculating the adjusted basis correctly when AMT was involved? I want to make sure I'm not leaving money on the table with the basis calculation.
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