How do I properly report a worthless security on my taxes?
I've been holding 950 shares of HealthPlus (HPIQ) throughout their bankruptcy process this year. Based on what I can see in my Schwab account, the stock has now been deemed worthless, showing a loss of ($15,800.42). It no longer appears as an "unrealized loss" like it did before. I noticed a transaction dated 10/17/2024 with just a description of "Reorganization - 950" which I'm assuming refers to my HPIQ shares. When I tried to check Schwab's worthless securities section (https://www.schwab.com/worthless-securities), HPIQ isn't listed as an option, which makes me think it's officially been classified as a worthless security as of October 17, 2024. My questions are: 1. I didn't do anything with this stock in 2024, and now it seems to have disappeared from my Schwab account. However, I don't see any mention of it on the 1099-B that Schwab issued. Is this normal? Do worthless securities not get reported on 1099-B forms? 2. If this is indeed a worthless security, can I just report it directly on Schedule D myself? Do I need any special documentation since I didn't receive tax forms showing the security is worthless? 3. Should I request some kind of documentation from Schwab to "prove" this security has been declared worthless? This is my first time dealing with a worthless security, so I'm confused about the process. I would have expected something to be reported to the IRS automatically.
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Cassandra Moon
When a security becomes worthless, it's treated as if you sold it for $0 on the last day of the tax year it became worthless. This creates a capital loss you can claim on your tax return. For your questions: 1. Brokers aren't required to report worthless securities on Form 1099-B. It's actually your responsibility to identify and report them. That's why you don't see it on your Schwab statement. 2. Yes, you report this on Schedule D and Form 8949. List the security, your cost basis, and a sale price of $0. In the "Date Sold" column, use 12/31/2024 (the last day of the tax year). Also, use code "W" in column (f) to indicate a worthless security. Make sure to keep documentation about the bankruptcy and when the stock became worthless. 3. Getting documentation from Schwab is a good idea. Ask for a letter confirming the security is worthless, or at minimum, account statements showing the security before and after it disappeared. Save any news articles or bankruptcy court documents about HealthPlus too. One important note: The IRS gives you 7 years to claim a deduction for worthless securities, so if you miss reporting it this year, you can file an amended return later. But it's best to report it in the correct year if you can determine when it became worthless.
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Zane Hernandez
•What happens if the company comes back later or gets bought out? Do we have to report a gain if we already claimed the loss as worthless?
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Cassandra Moon
•If a company returns from bankruptcy after you've claimed a worthless security deduction, or if it gets acquired and suddenly has value again, you would need to report that as income when it occurs. This would be treated as a new investment with a $0 cost basis, so any proceeds would be fully taxable as a capital gain. The timing can be tricky, which is why it's important to be certain the security is truly worthless before claiming the deduction. This is also why the IRS gives that 7-year window - sometimes it takes time to confirm a security has no recovery value.
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Genevieve Cavalier
I went through something similar with a biotech stock last year. I ended up using taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) to help me figure out how to document the worthless security correctly. They reviewed my account statements and the bankruptcy documents and gave me really specific instructions for my tax return. They even helped me draft a letter to request the right documentation from my broker. The IRS is pretty strict about requiring proof that a stock became completely worthless in the specific tax year you're claiming. Without the right documentation, you could face issues if you're audited. What I learned was that the "reorganization" transaction in your account is usually the key moment when the stock is officially deemed worthless.
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Ethan Scott
•How detailed was their guidance? Did they give you specific forms to fill out or did you still need to talk to a tax professional?
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Lola Perez
•Does taxr.ai work with all brokerages? My situation is with Fidelity and I'm not sure if there would be differences in how they handle worthless securities compared to Schwab or others.
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Genevieve Cavalier
•Their guidance was very specific - they actually gave me line-by-line instructions for Schedule D and Form 8949, including which codes to use and where to document the worthless security transaction. I didn't need to consult another tax professional after using their service. They work with all major brokerages including Fidelity. Each brokerage has slightly different terminology and processes for handling worthless securities, but taxr.ai is familiar with the differences. They adjusted their recommendations based on my specific broker and even pointed out some Fidelity-specific documentation I should request.
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Lola Perez
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Nathaniel Stewart
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Riya Sharma
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Santiago Diaz
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Santiago Diaz
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Millie Long
Don't forget that worthless securities are almost always capital losses, which means you can only deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income per year. If your loss is $15,800 like the OP's, you'll be carrying forward that loss for several years. Also, if you owned this stock for less than a year before it became worthless, it's a short-term capital loss. If you owned it for more than a year, it's long-term. This matters because you have to use up capital losses against the same type of gains first (short against short, long against long) before you can cross-apply them.
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Eli Wang
•If I have other capital gains this year (about $8,000 in stock sales), can I apply this entire $15,800 loss against those gains first, and then carry forward the remaining $7,800? Or does the $3,000 limit apply before I offset other gains?
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Millie Long
•You apply your capital losses first against capital gains of the same type. Then you can apply remaining losses against other capital gains. Only after offsetting all capital gains does the $3,000 limit against ordinary income come into play. So in your case, you would first offset your $8,000 in capital gains completely with part of your $15,800 loss. That would leave you with $7,800 in remaining losses. Of that, you could use $3,000 against your ordinary income this year, and carry forward the remaining $4,800 to future tax years.
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KaiEsmeralda
One important thing nobody's mentioned - be careful with the date you claim it became worthless. The IRS is very specific that you must claim it in the year it actually became worthless, not when you discovered it was worthless. From my experience, the reorganization transaction date (your Oct 17) is typically when the broker is recognizing it as worthless, but you should check if that's actually when the company bankruptcy was finalized or if something else happened on that date.
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Debra Bai
•I messed this up once. Claimed a stock as worthless in 2022 when it technically became worthless in late 2021. Got a notice from the IRS and had to file an amended return for both years. What a headache.
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Dylan Cooper
Based on your situation with HealthPlus (HPIQ), it sounds like you're dealing with a classic worthless security scenario. The "Reorganization - 950" transaction on 10/17/2024 is likely when your broker processed the stock as worthless following the bankruptcy proceedings. Here's what you need to do: 1. **Documentation is key** - Contact Schwab immediately and request a letter confirming that HPIQ became worthless on 10/17/2024. Also ask for account statements showing the stock before and after that date. Save any bankruptcy court documents or news articles about HealthPlus's final liquidation. 2. **Report on Schedule D and Form 8949** - You'll need to manually report this since it won't appear on your 1099-B. Use 10/17/2024 as your sale date (not 12/31/2024 as some suggest - use the actual date it became worthless), $0 as the sale price, and your original cost basis. Enter code "W" in column (f) on Form 8949. 3. **Capital loss treatment** - Your $15,800 loss will first offset any capital gains you have this year. Any remaining loss can be deducted up to $3,000 against ordinary income, with the rest carried forward to future years. The fact that HPIQ doesn't appear in Schwab's worthless securities lookup actually supports that it's been officially deemed worthless. Just make sure you have proper documentation before filing, as the IRS scrutinizes worthless security claims closely.
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Jamal Washington
•This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with worthless securities and had no idea about the documentation requirements. One question though - you mentioned using the actual date it became worthless (10/17/2024) rather than 12/31/2024. I've seen conflicting advice on this. How do you know which date to use? Is there an IRS publication that clarifies this? Also, when requesting documentation from Schwab, should I ask for anything specific beyond just a letter confirming it's worthless? I want to make sure I have everything I need in case of an audit.
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